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davesoft

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Rotating Nobles: Named rooms?
« on: June 03, 2015, 01:12:11 pm »

Howdy, i've tried this kinda question before and hand my mind blown, here goes:

Can I set a room to be The Mayor's Room, so it changes to whoever is currently the mayor?

I know keeping up with politics is important, but my fortress seems to change their favorite really quickly. Maybe I should cultivate a social dwarf and confine him to party duty or something
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Re: Rotating Nobles: Named rooms?
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2015, 01:18:03 pm »

Unfortunately there is no way to automate the assignment of the Mayor's quarters, you'll have to handle that by hand.  As for just setting someone with high social skills to just party and schmooze all the time, that can be semi-reliable, but not perfectly.
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Re: Rotating Nobles: Named rooms?
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2015, 01:51:34 pm »

There is something in the LNP (probably some dfhack shenanigans) that allow you to assign at least the office to the position of the mayor.  Would be a place to start looking, at least.
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Re: Rotating Nobles: Named rooms?
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2015, 02:57:46 pm »

If I remember correctly, it works for all rooms, rather than just the office. It can be used when a room is assigned to any noble. I've never really used it much, though.
I think it shows up in the bottom-left of the menu when looking at the room with (Q), but I'm not certain of that.
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Re: Rotating Nobles: Named rooms?
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2015, 03:34:35 pm »

If you are not using all your dwarves all the time, the ones off-duty will gain social skills and get their sorry butts elected.  Best is to make sure no one is that idle.

Maybe I should cultivate a social dwarf and confine him to party duty or something
Almost any dwarf who is idle will become "social". What you want for a mayor is a dwarf with no awkward preferences, so either they won't be issuing mandates (preferably), or at least those they do issue will be easy to fulfill (maybe like barrels, doors or armour, something you'd produce anyway).  When they demand "catapult parts" and you're already running short on wood... yeah...

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Mandate#Mandates_.26_preferences
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Re: Rotating Nobles: Named rooms?
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2015, 04:05:33 pm »

DFHack has a feature like this. Just install DFHack, use Q on the room, and it'll say "1: mayor" or something like that.
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Re: Rotating Nobles: Named rooms?
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2015, 05:49:04 pm »

Toady says he's going to add this. Seems like if it's not in the next release then it'll probably be during this arc.

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Re: Rotating Nobles: Named rooms?
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2015, 09:18:50 pm »

Almost any dwarf who is idle will become "social". What you want for a mayor is a dwarf with no awkward preferences, so either they won't be issuing mandates (preferably), or at least those they do issue will be easy to fulfill (maybe like barrels, doors or armour, something you'd produce anyway).  When they demand "catapult parts" and you're already running short on wood... yeah...

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Mandate#Mandates_.26_preferences

Keep in mind, nobles can also perform export bans.  If a noble bans the export of barrels when the caravans are already leaving with several barrels of prepared food, you'll regret thinking barrels are a great mandate preference.  (Doors are pretty safe, though, as you rarely want to trade those away...)

In general, I prefer to make one of my starting seven mayor, and that way I can control who gets picked.  Look at your dwarves at embark, and choose a mayor with preferences that you can at least import from the mountainhomes.  (Gems are generally the most annoying, so make sure you can import those, but some metals like bismuth or stones like orpiment might also be impossible to find on your embark.  Also, look at the wood preferences, and pay attention to whether you're embarking at a place where it will grow, and if not, whether you can trade with the mountainhomes for it.)

You want a mayor that has generally friendly personality traits and likes helping people and isn't vengeful, but isn't necessarily all that honest (you want flatterer and such to help keep dwarves happy). 

Give the chosen dwarf a few points of consoler and one point in a couple other social skills to make them the prime choice for expedition leader, and let them go on break slightly more than others.  (I make my mayor carpenter, because I usually use carpentry a lot, but there is often time for breaks.)
« Last Edit: June 03, 2015, 09:20:36 pm by NW_Kohaku »
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Re: Rotating Nobles: Named rooms?
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2015, 06:20:22 am »

My mayor doesn't like rivals so when any dwarfs arrive with higher social skills than her she douses them in hot steamy magma.
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Re: Rotating Nobles: Named rooms?
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2015, 09:37:32 pm »

My mayor doesn't like rivals so when any dwarfs arrive with higher social skills than her she douses them in hot steamy magma.

Interesting.
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Re: Rotating Nobles: Named rooms?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2015, 11:13:16 am »

I usually just pick a perfect mayor myself, one with suitable personality traits and no item preferences. If dwarves happen to elect someone else I'll just putin my candidate back to the position. That's what the (r)eplace function is for, right?

The same applies when appointing a new baron; the dwarf with no item preferences gets the job. I don't much like mandates and demands and will usually ignore them if I ever get any. In .40.xx missing mandates is not even that big a deal anymore.

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Re: Rotating Nobles: Named rooms?
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2015, 03:54:15 am »

That's what the (r)eplace function is for, right?

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Re: Rotating Nobles: Named rooms?
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2015, 06:17:19 am »

That's what the (r)eplace function is for, right?

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How did I never think of this?

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Re: Rotating Nobles: Named rooms?
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2015, 06:34:33 am »

Hmmm... intriguiging... DFwiki says mandates can't be issued in flight... how can we exploit this?
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Re: Rotating Nobles: Named rooms?
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2015, 07:35:17 am »

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