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[Yoink]

Survival Mode is PERFECT except for save points (what is this, 1995??) disabling fast travel, and disabling enemies on your compass.  Like, with all the quests that take you halfway across the commonwealth, why in god's name would they make you walk the whole way?

The latter two of those sound awesome!
Is this coming out around the same time as the DLC, or what? I wasn't paying attention until this post.
I hate fast travel so very much, but I get too impatient to not use it when it's available. >.>

[Rolan7]

I would definitely disable fast travel if I could still do it along supply lines, and especially if there was a mechanism for random encounters.

[Man of Paper]

Sent my girlfriend the link for the survival mode stuff. She goes "So it's like first person Sims."

I dunno how I feel about how close that is to accurate.

[scriver]

Yeah, the save game and fast travel stuff makes it a no use for me. Bethesda's games are notorious for corrupting auto and quicksaves, and I've got no reason to think it would be different in this one.

As for fast travel, the game just isn't designed to be used without it. I often go for long stretches without fast traveling, but the thought of having no fast traveling at all sits ill with me - skipping uninteresting downtime through already explored areas isn't "unimmersive".

It looks like they combined hunger and thirst into one meter? I guess that could be alright. I like the ammo weight stuff, but then again I already drop ammo and drugs off at my base so I don't carry too much of either at the start of every outventure.

[MarcAFK]

I don't know how I feel about the effect lack of fast travel will have on settlement defence.
Those guys really should be able to defend themself without needing me to bend spacerime to get there immediately. Speaking of, I just had my first settlement attack, I lost 1 of the 2 guys at ten pines bluff but got an awesome .38 spamming death cannon from a super mutant, so I can finally get rid of those formerly useless ammo.
I might as well start building defences in places other than sanctuary..... I suppose....

[SOLDIER First]

1. Go to merchant with X,000 .38 ammo.
2. Sell .38 ammo.
3. Profit.

[umiman]

I disabled a lot of settlement stuff in my game because there's way too much shit with it.

I made surgeries give like.... 1000 happiness so I don't have to deal with that shit where if you don't show your face in a settlement after awhile, its happiness starts dropping rapidly.

I disabled settlement attacks completely. I was tired of having to rescue every single settlement every 10 seconds even though they all have more than 200 defense levels each (I have every single settlement in the game, which means neverending attacks).

I removed all settlement build limits, because fuck that shit.

Of course, there are still a ton of bugs regarding them. I have to console move settlers way more than I want to after they get stuck somewhere or bug off the face of the earth. I have to manually move the special named NPCs because they're bugged to not show up as well. I have to manually remove corpses, goo piles, etc. because they're permanent for some reason. I still have the issues where occasionally settlement stats can go haywire even though I no longer have any TVs are anything that should be causing the problem.

Settlements are a complete shitshow.

[Man of Paper]

Settlements are unsettling.

[miauw62]

I disabled a lot of settlement stuff in my game because there's way too much shit with it.

I made surgeries give like.... 1000 happiness so I don't have to deal with that shit where if you don't show your face in a settlement after awhile, its happiness starts dropping rapidly.

I disabled settlement attacks completely. I was tired of having to rescue every single settlement every 10 seconds even though they all have more than 200 defense levels each (I have every single settlement in the game, which means neverending attacks).

I removed all settlement build limits, because fuck that shit.

Of course, there are still a ton of bugs regarding them. I have to console move settlers way more than I want to after they get stuck somewhere or bug off the face of the earth. I have to manually move the special named NPCs because they're bugged to not show up as well. I have to manually remove corpses, goo piles, etc. because they're permanent for some reason. I still have the issues where occasionally settlement stats can go haywire even though I no longer have any TVs are anything that should be causing the problem.

Settlements are a complete shitshow.

It just works.

[Teneb]

I disabled a lot of settlement stuff in my game because there's way too much shit with it.

I made surgeries give like.... 1000 happiness so I don't have to deal with that shit where if you don't show your face in a settlement after awhile, its happiness starts dropping rapidly.

I disabled settlement attacks completely. I was tired of having to rescue every single settlement every 10 seconds even though they all have more than 200 defense levels each (I have every single settlement in the game, which means neverending attacks).

I removed all settlement build limits, because fuck that shit.

Of course, there are still a ton of bugs regarding them. I have to console move settlers way more than I want to after they get stuck somewhere or bug off the face of the earth. I have to manually move the special named NPCs because they're bugged to not show up as well. I have to manually remove corpses, goo piles, etc. because they're permanent for some reason. I still have the issues where occasionally settlement stats can go haywire even though I no longer have any TVs are anything that should be causing the problem.

Settlements are a complete shitshow.

Build limit aside, what mods (or console commands) did you use for the happiness and attacks "fixes"?

[nenjin]

I don't think settlements are a complete shit show.

They're just very Bethesda. There's a lot of emphasis on granular management with little to no pay off for doing so other than aesthetic satisfaction (which admit it, their fanbase has basically confirmed that is at least 30% of what the ultimately give a shit about.)

Unlike say, survival, I think settlements are a good baseline system for modders to work on. A good settlement assault mod would immediately make all work you put in actually worth something.

Yeah if you have zero interest in construction and such, Settlements seem like a giant waste of effort by Bethesda. But in terms of extending (or padding) playtime for a lot of their players, I think it's a success. I know I'd probably be done with FO4 already after 108 hours if I hadn't spent probably 20 or 30 of those faffing around building walled settlements or my own personal 10-Penny Tower.

[umiman]

-x-

Build limit aside, what mods (or console commands) did you use for the happiness and attacks "fixes"?

Hmm... here's my mod list for settlements:

1. Better Generators
2. Better Vendor Stalls
3. Brighter Settlement Lights
4. Craftable Floor Supports
5. Happy Pills
6. Higher Settlement Budget
7. No Settlement Attacks
8. Quieter Settlements
9. Scrap dead things
10. Shaikujin's Better Alerts
11. Working Food Planters

[KingofstarrySkies]

Survival Mode is PERFECT except for save points (what is this, 1995??) disabling fast travel, and disabling enemies on your compass.  Like, with all the quests that take you halfway across the commonwealth, why in god's name would they make you walk the whole way?

The latter two of those sound awesome!
Is this coming out around the same time as the DLC, or what? I wasn't paying attention until this post.
I hate fast travel so very much, but I get too impatient to not use it when it's available. >.>

Why do you hate it? It's a feasible not-bullshit way to get around Bethesda's classic fuckhueg map.

[SOLDIER First]

It progresses time realistically, in NV it progressed hunger as well... The only downside is you don't discover anything between your location and destination (which I personally excuse as the character being too focused on travel to notice anything else).

[Sergius]

Trying to get from point A to point B without quick travel in a Bethesda game is like trying to get from your house to your workplace while being forced to go thru the front and back doors of every person in town that you've ever met along the way.