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[Rolan7]

I thought I'd stick with Dogmeat, but I'm giving Valentine a try and digging him.  No spoilers, but I do like his reactions to the Mysterious Stranger appearing.  I assume other companions react too, but just feels so appropriate with him.

Also one time I cancelled out of VATS just as the stranger appeared...  He didn't take the killshot, I think I hurt his feelings ):

[BFEL]

To be fair, you don't look like a SOLDIER. You look more like an AVATAR OF DEATH.

[TheDarkStar]

To be fair, you don't look like a SOLDIER. You look more like an AVATAR OF DEATH.

The BOS discriminates against avatars of death.

[Gabeux]

Wow. I'm watching some videos from Sarcastic playthroughs. It's a whole new game/experience.

The best line is probably:
- Why are you here?
- [Sarcastic] Uh..I'm here to pick up an order. Two large pepperoni and a calzone. Name is "Fuck You".

[Flying Dice]

To be fair, you don't look like a SOLDIER. You look more like an AVATAR OF DEATH.

The BOS discriminates against avatars of death.

I just want the Commonwealth to be a safe space!
#triggered #noliterallyipulledthetrigger

[Virtz]

I've finished it at level 50.

I'm not sure how people can have a problem with the writing here and look back at FO3 as a positive example. Unless they miss the goofyness, I guess.

Now, if I put together everything correctly (since I couldn't really just ask anyone directly about these things), the true villain of the story is

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The Railroad.

A bunch of idiot "fight the power" types who believe synths are people even though they completely erase and rewrite their minds when "liberating" rogue synths, thus eliminating whatever human-like sense of self they could've had (which begs the question what's the rogue synth's motivation at this point. Do they really just want a human-like synth that isn't actually them, just their body, running around the wasteland? What's the rationale behind this?).

The Institute then goes after these synths, who are convinced they're human, with false memories and all, and get them, making it seem as though they're kidnapping regular people and replacing them with synths when really they're just getting back their synths.

Not to mention these morons implant the synths with personalities that lead them to do horrible things like become raider leaders. What heroes.

Think I'll replay it with a melee build, see how viable that is since I spent most of the game creeping around and shooting headshots.

[TheDarkStar]

Melee is actually fairly viable, especially with VATS and some of the later perks. There's one that lets you target people with melee attacks in VATS from about 25 meters away .

[motorbitch]

so, i did the quest the big digg.
during the quest, you have to herd 3 lobotomized npc through narrow tunnels.
two times i had to reload an early save because one of them got stuck, once i got killed because i was surrounded by the friendly npc, unable to move or hit the hostile npc.
once the final "door" did not open.
the final conversation was not triggerd, giving me no choice how to end the quest.
the legendary weapon did not drop.
after finishing the quest, the questgiver went hostile.

so noone say again this isnt the spirit of fallout here. quests broken like the classics, 10/10, would pirate next time.

[Digital Hellhound]

I've finished it at level 50.

I'm not sure how people can have a problem with the writing here and look back at FO3 as a positive example. Unless they miss the goofyness, I guess.

Now, if I put together everything correctly (since I couldn't really just ask anyone directly about these things), the true villain of the story is

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The Railroad.

A bunch of idiot "fight the power" types who believe synths are people even though they completely erase and rewrite their minds when "liberating" rogue synths, thus eliminating whatever human-like sense of self they could've had (which begs the question what's the rogue synth's motivation at this point. Do they really just want a human-like synth that isn't actually them, just their body, running around the wasteland? What's the rationale behind this?).

The Institute then goes after these synths, who are convinced they're human, with false memories and all, and get them, making it seem as though they're kidnapping regular people and replacing them with synths when really they're just getting back their synths.

Not to mention these morons implant the synths with personalities that lead them to do horrible things like become raider leaders. What heroes.

Think I'll replay it with a melee build, see how viable that is since I spent most of the game creeping around and shooting headshots.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

While the Railroad is not the most heroic faction of all time, I think you're being seriously unfair. The Railroad gives memory transplants to those who want them - the synths who want to live normal, safe lives. I admit, this is pretty vague in-game, but I didn't get the impression they were forcing anyone. Even if they are... Letting them into the synth-paranoid Commonwealth when they're still acting like newborns would likely get them all killed. There's also still synths like Glory who haven't taken false memories and are wholly embraced by the Railroad.

And the Institute is kidnapping mostly regular people, in the name of science or control over the Commonwealth - there's plenty of logs on their terminals that go into this.

I don't know why the Raider leader went the way he did. Maybe he just had a naturally vicious personality - the SRB logs imply even compliant synths vary in personality - or maybe the Railroad fucked up. Would've been nice to hear the Railroad's side of things.

The false memories thing is kinda iffy, I admit. Couldn't they, say, just give them a lot of training on how to pass as human? In my perfect headcanon, the Railroad and the Minutemen start working on making the Commonwealth less hating on synths after the Institute is dealt with, eliminating the need for the memory stuff.

The Railroad also makes you commit mass murder, including children (they atleast mention evacuating unarmed civilians from the Institute, but the Prydwen doesn't even get a chance for that...), so definitely not exactly heroic.

[BFEL]

I would say the true villain of the story is mankind in general. And more specifically, the inability of those with strong beliefs to accept anything other then total destruction of those who don't share those beliefs.

[sambojin]

Melee looks pretty viable. Been watching Elohim on twitch do a melee only build, and he seems to be doing pretty massive damage most of the time (although he does have a ranged sniper companion with him). It also seems like power armour can be more-or-less permanently worn, with fusion cores being a non-limit for its use.

[Egan_BW]

I would say the true villain of the story is mankind in general. And more specifically, the inability of those with strong beliefs to accept anything other then total destruction of those who don't share those beliefs.

insert quote about war here

[ShoesandHats]

I would say the true villain of the story is mankind in general. And more specifically, the inability of those with strong beliefs to accept anything other then total destruction of those who don't share those beliefs.

Or the inability of the writers to make an ending involving any sort of compromise between factions.

I really like the game, and I like the story better than the one in Fallout 3, but Bethesda still hasn't really come into their own when it comes to writing plots. Or dialogue.

[motorbitch]

ok, that was just very awsome:

wearing my x-01 and some serious firepower, i stumble in some complex, 4 duders went all aggro on me. i take one down with one headshot - the other 3 panic and flee, try to hide.
thats something i always thoguth leaking in the ai of games: agressive npc showing fear and trying to disengage if at a servere disadvantage. havnt realy seen this done well before.

[SOLDIER First]

That's why Obsidian really needs to get that sequel to New Vegas in gear...