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Author Topic: Fallout 4: It Just Works  (Read 840814 times)

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Re: Fallout 4: P R E L O A D I N G
« Reply #2610 on: November 06, 2015, 06:53:25 pm »

He also took your delivery, and executed you. I'd be pretty pissed about it.

Which he took directly to the person you were delivering it to.

...not quite? You do have to get the chip back from Benny. I mean, that's quite an important thing you have to do.

Sure, it's near the delivery location, but if you ordered something online, and your neighbour nicked the package waiting on your driveway, it still isn't in your possession, is it?
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« Reply #2611 on: November 06, 2015, 06:54:57 pm »

He also took your delivery, and executed you. I'd be pretty pissed about it.

Which he took directly to the person you were delivering it to.

...not quite? You do have to get the chip back from Benny. I mean, that's quite an important thing you have to do.

Sure, it's near the delivery location, but if you ordered something online, and your neighbour nicked the package waiting on your driveway, it still isn't in your possession, is it?

The Neighbor whom I own the house of and have an army of robots who could take it back at anytime with.
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Re: Fallout 4: P R E L O A D I N G
« Reply #2612 on: November 06, 2015, 06:57:16 pm »

Forgetting, of course, how easy it was to subvert Yes Man. I expect that's why House wanted someone who had reason to hate Benny and who could be motivated in a straightforward manner.
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Re: Fallout 4: P R E L O A D I N G
« Reply #2613 on: November 06, 2015, 07:02:03 pm »

And yet he did not, because he couldn't.

Oh, is he going to invade with his army of robots?
Benny has just snapped the chip in half. Or shot it. Or dunked it in his martini.

I guess House isn't getting that upgraded robot army after all, huh?
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Re: Fallout 4: P R E L O A D I N G
« Reply #2614 on: November 06, 2015, 07:07:50 pm »

He also took your delivery, and executed you. I'd be pretty pissed about it.

Which he took directly to the person you were delivering it to.

...not quite? You do have to get the chip back from Benny. I mean, that's quite an important thing you have to do.

Sure, it's near the delivery location, but if you ordered something online, and your neighbour nicked the package waiting on your driveway, it still isn't in your possession, is it?
But he did most of the walking :P
(Of course so did you, but that's not his fault, he thought you were dead!)

Forgetting, of course, how easy it was to subvert Yes Man. I expect that's why House wanted someone who had reason to hate Benny and who could be motivated in a straightforward manner.
Silly House didn't foresee my character being delightfully crazy.
Of course, then Bennie-sempai had to go and runShouldn't have done that...
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Re: Fallout 4: P R E L O A D I N G
« Reply #2615 on: November 06, 2015, 07:42:51 pm »

House also explains that he cannot sends his robots after Benny, as that would be seen as an attack against the Strip Families, which would cost him their loyalty and maybe start a riot (and remember that they are his main source of income).
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« Reply #2616 on: November 06, 2015, 07:46:15 pm »

House also explains that he cannot sends his robots after Benny, as that would be seen as an attack against the Strip Families, which would cost him their loyalty and maybe start a riot (and remember that they are his main source of income).

And of course hiring you extremely publically and obviously would be completely inconspicuously.

Then again your character is pretty much a non-entity in these games.
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« Reply #2617 on: November 06, 2015, 07:50:22 pm »

House also explains that he cannot sends his robots after Benny, as that would be seen as an attack against the Strip Families, which would cost him their loyalty and maybe start a riot (and remember that they are his main source of income).

And of course hiring you extremely publically and obviously would be completely inconspicuously.

Then again your character is pretty much a non-entity in these games.
He doesn't exactly hire you publicly. Sure, you talked to him, but no one know what about. As far as the strip cares, you had a grudge against Benny (which you did) or are just some crazed murderer.

Neo, don't take this as an offense because I actually respect you, but it seems you dislike the story and are trying to justify it, rather than just... not liking it (which is ok). Because the story is actually competent enough in it's non-Legion parts (due to the quantity of cut stuff about them).
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Re: Fallout 4: P R E L O A D I N G
« Reply #2618 on: November 06, 2015, 07:53:09 pm »


Neo, don't take this as an offense because I actually respect you, but it seems you dislike the story and are trying to justify it, rather than just... not liking it (which is ok). Because the story is actually competent enough in it's non-Legion parts (due to the quantity of cut stuff about them).
It's Neo, dude.
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« Reply #2619 on: November 06, 2015, 08:00:01 pm »

Skipping over dismissive comment.

It would work in legalese, but frankly why else would House, someone who never talks to anyone, talk to you? I originally thought House couldn't take the chip because he actually couldn't, like the robots couldn't rework their programming like that. But I don't quite think that is a thing. At least I never have found anything that suggested it.

As for disliking the story. I actually don't dislike the story itself (well except Legion but that part was just FLUBBED). I just think that the hook wasn't that engrossing. You go to Vegas more because there isn't anything else for you in the wasteland and it is hyped up to heck (half the gameplay is basically in Vegas itself) then you do to search for that guy who shot you in the brain once.

In fact one of the things I wanted to do the most was to track down my lost memory. Yet... You REALLY never do. Now that would have been interesting but all you really find is what place you worked for.

Though the real reason you can't gain your memories in New Vegas is because it would define your character and thusly you would become an entity instead of the non-entity they were going for. Your kind of like the Lone Gunman who strolls into town, shoots the bad guy, then leaves without a word. Except you talk a lot!
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« Reply #2620 on: November 06, 2015, 08:31:46 pm »

Just waiting for my dvd's to arrive.
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Re: Fallout 4: P R E L O A D I N G
« Reply #2621 on: November 06, 2015, 08:34:35 pm »

Did anyone else have the ending spoiled, I was going through the steam community hub and saw at least one part of what the ending is gonna be... :( I guess it was partly my fault, as the steam community is full of jackasses...
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« Reply #2622 on: November 06, 2015, 08:37:27 pm »

Did anyone else have the ending spoiled, I was going through the steam community hub and saw at least one part of what the ending is gonna be... :( I guess it was partly my fault, as the steam community is full of jackasses...

Naw I've been avoiding real information about this game. I want to be completely surprised.
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Re: Fallout 4: P R E L O A D I N G
« Reply #2623 on: November 06, 2015, 08:39:23 pm »

Lonesome Road sorta reveals bits of your backstory.  Which it did pretty well...  I was actually leery, because I didn't mind being (mostly) a Elder Scrolls-style blank slate.

I considered myself to be chasing Benny, though, not New Vegas.  I could have settled in Novac, helping the NCR fight the Legion.  Heck in my first playthrough I never even went into New Vegas.  After getting frustrated by the stupid damage reduction mechanic on these mostly-naked legion punks, I picked up an anti-materiel rifle from the Gun Runners.

When I tried to fire it (like 4 STR) I laughed, admitted that the game had a point, then uninstalled it for a couple years.  Never entered the strip.  When I came back later and did, it was honestly pretty disappointing.  House was awesome, the strip itself was eh.  Well-crafted, but just not interesting to me personally.

But nah my reason was never "ooh Vegas, I can go waste some caps".  It was hunting down my killer, and the NCR-Brotherhood fight.  All the casino stuff put me off.
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« Reply #2624 on: November 06, 2015, 08:40:46 pm »

Re: NV. The Courier doesn't have amnesia. Even Lonesome Road is explained away as "but for me, it was Tuesday."
Amnesia is just fan speculation for many things, but it isn't needed nor stated explicitly.

In most cases, it's a case of the Courier being a blank slate that the player can fill with whatever they please. Like, how he can tell the New Reno singer that he remembers him, or not (this literally means that the player decides whether he knew him or not). Most players mistake that for "well the bullet gave him amnesia".

This is different from Fallout 3 where they outright tell you your past, who your family is, etc.
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