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[SOLDIER First]

Vault-Tec was international?

[notquitethere]

I don't think so, but other governments would have their own vaults no doubt.

[notquitethere]

We know that Tenpenny came from England, so by necessity some people must have survived the war.

[SOLDIER First]

Maybe they'd have, perhaps, actual major fallout shelters and not just horrible psychological experiments meant For Science? Possibly?
But yeah. How did he come over, exactly? Boat?

[Catastrophic lolcats]

Tenpenny embodies everything wrong with Bethesda writing.
Apparently a man managed to organise some way to cross the atlantic ocean in a low resource/tech post-apocalyptic world with no given motive. Decides to settle in the arse end of nowhere in a crappy pre-war hotel despite probably having extreme wealth and power. Demands the closest settlement (and possible only source of trade/customers) to be nuked because he's a caricature with no personality. Not a single person in the universe notes that this is odd.

[notquitethere]

Yeah, it's stupid. Maybe he arrived on a plane. Actually, the theory that makes most sense is he just pretends to be English based on info from some old holotape. That's why he's a one-dimensional caricature. If you listen to his voice, he doesn't actually have an British accent.

[Putnam]

EVERY ONE OF PAUL EIDING'S VOICES IN FALLOUT 3 IS IDENTICAL AND NOT ONE OF THEM IS THE VOICE HE NORMALLY USES

what is up with that

[SOLDIER First]

Two or three people provide the voices for so many different named characters and they all sound pretty much the same

[Mech#4]

That was a bit of an odd thing. The small number of voice actors wouldn't have been so apparent if they'd done different voices. Not even that different, this is an older man, this is a younger man, this man smokes a lot, this man really needs a glass of water etc etc.
Most of the characters seemed like they were mid to late 20s.

Maybe they don't have someone who's very good at giving directions to voice actors.

[notquitethere]

In a way, I'd preferred the limited-voice work in Fallout 1 & 2 (indeed, of most RPGS of the period): the important characters would speak a bit so you could read the text in their voice, and every character sounded different. The worst offender for me was Stephen Russell in Skyrim. He was obviously capable of doing very distinct voices (like the talking dog), but he used the same really distinct hearty voice for at least a dozen NPCs. Voicework is supposed to increase immersion, but all too often it reiterates the falseness of the situations you're in.

[Majestic7]

If you want to mention bad writing, anyone remember the original Fallout 3 ending? There is an irradiated chamber with a lever to pull. The radiation is lethal. If you ask your super mutant/ghoul/robot combination to do it, he says "nope, doing it is your DESTINY". So although the character has a companion who is immune to the radiation, he must go there and die.

I mean, what the fuck? That is the worst writing I have ever seen in a computer game and that takes some doing. They fixed this later, but it showed how crappy Bethes writers are. Some of the side quests in original Fallout3 were really nice - or more like things you could just find that were not part of any quest - but the main story was written by drunk monkeys.

So I expect Fallout 4 to have a completely corny and shitty main story, but hey, it can still be an entertaining game, as long as the ending isn't complete bullshit.

[notquitethere]

Any large game is going to be written by a large team of writers, so there's always going to be some gems. The FO3 ending was dreadful railroading taken to the extreme.

Interestingly, the ending of Wasteland 2 is structurally similar...

Spoiler: Actual major spoilers (click to show/hide)

... someone has to sacrifice themselves in a nuclear explosion at the end of the game. You can choose which one of your party members takes the fall... or depending on your actions earlier in the game, an NPC might offer to do it.

In Fallout 3 they needed the ending to be the fulfilment of the protagonist's arc, but this was a mistake because in a game about making choices, there should never be just one possible character arc for the player.

[Geltor]

what if bethesda allowed you  to send a radiation immune companion at the very beginning without the dlcs or just to drop everything and bolt? i feel that if they would open these two simple choices to us then you cant possibly nitpick the ending. so would these two meaningless additions really would have turned the ending from abysmal to fantastic? (actual question)

[SOLDIER First]

Absolutely. I know there are definitely some people that would love to see Purity explode, and not needing to pay for extra DLC before Fawkes will help you a second time sounds pretty good.

[Edit] Holy shit, Mothership Zeta is cathartic with an Energy Weapons character. 1HKO headshots with the alien pistols are amazing, and I get a OHKO sneak crit with the Disintegrator. <3
...I mean, until I get swarmed or encounter a turret.

[MasterFancyPants]

If you want to mention bad writing, anyone remember the original Fallout 3 ending? There is an irradiated chamber with a lever to pull. The radiation is lethal. If you ask your super mutant/ghoul/robot combination to do it, he says "nope, doing it is your DESTINY". So although the character has a companion who is immune to the radiation, he must go there and die.

I mean, what the fuck? That is the worst writing I have ever seen in a computer game and that takes some doing. They fixed this later, but it showed how crappy Bethes writers are. Some of the side quests in original Fallout3 were really nice - or more like things you could just find that were not part of any quest - but the main story was written by drunk monkeys.

So I expect Fallout 4 to have a completely corny and shitty main story, but hey, it can still be an entertaining game, as long as the ending isn't complete bullshit.

The entire premise of 3 was dumb. IRL you can swim in a fuel rod cooling tank. How did the ENTIRE (according to Point Lookout) ocean become radioactive, but the land stay fine?
You would think they'd do some research on radiation when making a game called Fallout.