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[ShoesandHats]

Did the western or eastern Brotherhood ever make reference to Arthurian legend? I thought that was just the midwestern chapter.

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

Besides...Didn't the DC/Easternmost Chapter crash their blimps?

And they can't make more because?

Because, this is a video game! We need protagonists to do anything important!
In all seriousness, they need a lot of shit to make a working airship.

Well this would apply if this was anywhere else in the world that still scavenged their weapons and armor (and you still do in this game because... well... fictional worlds advance REALLY slowly)

But this place should have some factories, power plants, and all that.

To be fair, the game is centred 200 years after the nukes hit, though I doubt mining operations would have been set up, even given two centuries.

[ShoesandHats]

Well, there appeared to be a stone quarry (not sure if it's being used) in the E3 demo, and The Pitt was apparently pretty productive, so if there's anything else like that out there, there's no reason production couldn't have sputtered back a bit.

[KingofstarrySkies]

Takes a lot more than a quarry to build an airship.

Also, random thought: Based off of what we've seen, Power Armor might actually be powered. As in, you need to supply it. Fission batteries, most likely.
This excites me.

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

Takes a lot more than a quarry to build an airship.

Also, random thought: Based off of what we've seen, Power Armor might actually be powered. As in, you need to supply it. Fission batteries, most likely.
This excites me.

But it's one of the things.
Though that is a good point, if they were gonna have something like that it would have needed a lot of helium, or something like that, at least.

[Flying Dice]

I can't get over how, in that second image, the BoS trooper farthest to the right is holding his hand up to the side of his helmet as if his radio wasn't integrated internally.

Besides...Didn't the DC/Easternmost Chapter crash their blimps?

And they can't make more because?

Because the Capital Wasteland is overflowing with large-scale mechanical parts, sheet metal fabrication shops, and massive pressurized helium storage units, right? Oh, oh, maybe they build new blimps out of concrete rubble and dead Supermutants and filled them with filtered... seawater.


Besides, people aren't remembering something. The D.C. chapter was the way it was almost solely because of Elder Lyons being a softhearted peacenik. It's been long enough since FO3 for him to be dead and buried. I'm betting that Sarah Lyons either had something happen which made her fall far from the tree, or else died, and the chapter reconciled with the Outcasts. That is, if it is solely the east coast BoS. I'd take a guess that the Midwest might have swept through and cleaned house with D.C.

[Putnam]

It's been long enough since FO3 for him to be dead and buried.

...do we actually know when it takes place

[Lightningfalcon]

Well, there appeared to be a stone quarry (not sure if it's being used) in the E3 demo, and The Pitt was apparently pretty productive, so if there's anything else like that out there, there's no reason production couldn't have sputtered back a bit.

In New Vegas you had the Gun Runners with their factory, and the NCR had a stone quarry that was being operated.  Additionally, they had the resources to spare to dedicate people to research efforts.

[ShoesandHats]

I was talking more about the power armor, but it applies somewhat to the airships as well.

What do you even need to make a blimp? I guess a bunch of cloth or something, plus material for the gondola. And the gas, of course. I guess there's a bunch of helium under the Great Plains, but I'm not sure how they would've tapped it and isolated it from the rest of the gas.

Also, in regards to Sarah, it is implied that her sensibilities are a bit more west coast than her dad's. Remember how she was all dismissive of you when she first showed up near GNR? I guess the events of FO3 might have warmed her up a bit to outsiders, but she generally seemed more aloof.

[Vendayn]

It's been long enough since FO3 for him to be dead and buried.

...do we actually know when it takes place

200 years. Same as Fallout 3 or pretty close to it.

Pretty sure I remember the video says the beginning takes place pre-war, then you come out 200 years later.

[KingofstarrySkies]

Well, 200 years after the war. So 2277. Exactly the same year as FO3. NV takes place in 2281.

[Aedel]

It's been long enough since FO3 for him to be dead and buried.

...do we actually know when it takes place

2277, same year as FO3 isn't it?

Unless Todd 'Sweet Lies' Howard and Codsworth weren't being literal when they said 200 years

[ShoesandHats]

Well, Owyn (the elder) is 75 in 2277. Even a year later and he could be dead, what with him being incredibly old for someone living in a post-nuclear wasteland.

[Flying Dice]

It's been long enough since FO3 for him to be dead and buried.

...do we actually know when it takes place

We know that FO3 began exactly 200 years after the bombs fell. Elder Lyons was already old as fuck and preparing to die at that point. I don't think we've heard anything definitive about FO4 beyond "roughly 200 years later", but I'd guess that it was enough difference (which could mean as few as 1-2 years, honestly) for Lyons to be out of the picture. That's if you want to go with the interpretation that the D.C. BoS are involved, rather than just the Midwesterners.

Also, because I really don't see Lyons deciding to start a crusade against the Institute when the Wasteland around D.C. is still fucked up and full of assorted minor assholes. The fact that the BoS in FO4 have Vertibirds (which as far as we know only the D.C. BoS have), the blimps (which the D.C. BoS don't have), and motivation enough to apparently attack the Institute is what says to me that it's a group of BoS which includes the D.C. chapter (but is not limited to them), and that Lyons is either dead or sidelined.

[Guardian G.I.]

Spoiler: FO4's complete sets of power armour (click to show/hide)

T-60b appears to be a modified T-45, X-01 mk2 is the Enclave power armour from Fallout 2.

Well, there appeared to be a stone quarry (not sure if it's being used) in the E3 demo, and The Pitt was apparently pretty productive, so if there's anything else like that out there, there's no reason production couldn't have sputtered back a bit.

In New Vegas you had the Gun Runners with their factory, and the NCR had a stone quarry that was being operated.  Additionally, they had the resources to spare to dedicate people to research efforts.

The NCR territories were mentioned to have a working railway system in FNV.

edit: shit, people, you type too fast

edit #2:

What do you even need to make a blimp? I guess a bunch of cloth or something, plus material for the gondola. And the gas, of course. I guess there's a bunch of helium under the Great Plains, but I'm not sure how they would've tapped it and isolated it from the rest of the gas.

I think the airship is powered by hydrogen, not helium, like the Zeppelins of the early 20th century.