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[KingofstarrySkies]

I'm naming that dog Niner.

[Krevsin]

If there isn't, it'll be modded in.

As will most things that bother people.

I think Bethesda games should automatically come with a note saying: "If any features in this game bother you, try mods"

[Putnam]

Butt-ugly and uninspiring, in comparison to previous installments.

Did you even play FO3 or New Vegas? By and large those were less 'gun' and more 'vaguely gun-colored stick'.

Not to mention that most of the guns in FO4 are basically the same as the ones from FO3.

[Ultimuh]

If there isn't, it'll be modded in.

As will most things that bother people.

I think Bethesda games should automatically come with a note saying: "If any features in this game bother you, try mods"

Someone will probably mod that into loading screen messages. If Bethesda still uses loadings screens.

[umiman]

I'm still kinda curious if they're going to use their beth.net thing to pave the way for the eventual paid mods.

[Putnam]

yes

[scriver]

I would be surprised if many of their weapon designs diverted very much from previous installments. A lot of them are very iconic.

I'm still kinda curious if they're going to use their beth.net thing to pave the way for the eventual paid mods.

What's this now?

[Ultimuh]

I'm still kinda curious if they're going to use their beth.net thing to pave the way for the eventual paid mods.

They better have a proper quality control thing going on first.

[umiman]

I would be surprised if many of their weapon designs diverted very much from previous installments. A lot of them are very iconic.

I'm still kinda curious if they're going to use their beth.net thing to pave the way for the eventual paid mods.

What's this now?

In the presentation, he was talking about how they'll be launching a new system for mods across all Bethesda games and systems(?).

Considering not too long ago they teamed up with Valve to try and monetize mods, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to think it's going to happen with this. Especially since they won't have to give 30% to Valve.

[MrWiggles]

I think its more of Valve teaming up with Bethesda then Bethesda teaming up with Valve.

Though during this presentation, I did have the thought that they may be attempting to turn FO4 into a service, over a product.

WHICH IS NOT ME BEING DISPARAGING OR SAYING ITS WRONG.

The Sims by EA, has done very well as being a service versus as being a product.
With the implied expansive scope of FO4, it could be done very well by similar structure of the the Sims. Buy what you want, at small prices for smaller things. Coming back for it for years.

[KingofstarrySkies]

Butt-ugly and uninspiring, in comparison to previous installments.

Did you even play FO3 or New Vegas? By and large those were less 'gun' and more 'vaguely gun-colored stick'.

Not to mention that most of the guns in FO4 are basically the same as the ones from FO3.

Just a lot prettier. And now OOH LOOK IT'S A RIFLE EHEHEHEHEHEHEEHEHAHAHAHAH
I want to spend literal hours playing with weapons and armor.

[Krevsin]

I think they got sufficiently burned by their infamous and short-lived venture into paid modding that whenever they try it next time it's going to be very carefully planned, managed and presented. Also I doubt that they will just automatically make all mods buyable.

Most likely IMO is the "mod creators team up to make an officially approved DLC" variant or a "pay what you want" model.

[KingofstarrySkies]

...So let's talk about two things here.
1: That weird animation, when he literally got into the power armor. Thoughts and theories on that?
2: VERTIBIRDS. I SAW A PRESS Y TO JUMP. I WANT TO JUMP OUT OF THAT THING SO HARD. THOOOOUGHTS.

[Majestic7]

Never underestimate the capacity of managers with no personal knowledge of the customers and the product to push through idiotic schemes to make some more dollahs.

[Krevsin]

Never underestimate the capacity of managers with no personal knowledge of the customers and the product to push through idiotic schemes to make some more dollahs.

They did come up with an idiotic scheme to make some more USD and the debacle known as "Steam paid mods" happened. Managers may be idiotic and money grubbing, but even they know not to get burned twice.