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[SOLDIER First]

I prefer to think of them more as a bunch of dicks with an airship. As in, dickery first, amazing one-of-a-kind tech second.

[nenjin]

BoS strikes me as losers, based on a FO4-only interpretation. They march around in power armor yet I'm always finding them dead, or pinned down by some shit I kill casually. Every one of them is a regulation asshole. So far their excursion into the Commonwealth looks like a comedy of errors.

[KingofstarrySkies]

Well. They're not. They are however douchebags except for Fallout 3's group which is now the FO4 group I think? Point is, they're really not that shit when they're coordinated and not being super-dicks.

[Telgin]

They'd generally survive 100x better if they didn't use vertibirds.  Vertibird crash has to be far and away the primary cause of KIA reports among the BoS.

[Rolan7]

Well. They're not. They are however douchebags except for Fallout 3's group which is now the FO4 group I think? Point is, they're really not that shit when they're coordinated and not being super-dicks.

I still haven't played past the initial scene of the Institute but...
They're kinda douchey in FO4 though it's in direct response to the Institute abducting people and replacing them with synths, supposedly.  And also definitely filling the area with murderous killbots.  So they don't trust synths or the Institute.
And they don't trust super mutants because East Coast super mutants are idiotic cannibalistic kidnappers, with like 2 (possibly temporary) exceptions.
As for ghouls, I never actually saw them do anything hostile towards a non-feral ghoul.  But maybe in light of the killer death bots and super mutants everywhere, they may be rude to a ghoul you bring onto their high-security fortress.  (Particularly since it's probably Hancock, I mean, the guy runs a weird libertarian commune and is chill with his cohorts being murdered, sometimes by his own hand.  I wouldn't trust him.)

Basically they aren't so bad in FO4, but were never bad in the other games either.  Just disrespectful until you earn respect, which seems to rub some gamers the wrong way (mainly thinking about my brother here, not you).

Edit:  Oh but it is funny how they keep dying because they suck at vertibirds.  Also the first time my brother showed me the vertibird travel system, it flew straight through a tree.  Only didn't die because apparently it just noclips when you're in it.

[Grim Portent]

The FO4 Brotherhood are the same as the FO3 ones, but they've developed into a new branch of Brotherhood under Maxson, much like they had under Lyons. They follow a more militarised command structure (started by Lyons) and have more power centralised in a single Elder when compared to the west coast Brotherhood.

Maxson's generally dickish behaviour comes as a result of being raised in the Capitol Wasteland, which was more of a mess than the NCR region they lived in on the west coast. He was appointed to be leader after a number of ineffectual Elders kept making bad decisions while trying to keep to Lyons' philosophy of helping people and being guardians of the wasteland settlements. Maxson basically said 'screw that shit' and decided that it was more practical to focus on scouring the wasteland of mutants, feral ghouls and other such threats. He also managed to get the more traditional Outcasts back into the fold, which probably affected the rest of the Brotherhood's outlook on things.

Since the Brotherhood had been struggling under previous Elders they took to this new more authoritarian rhetoric promising change like ducks to water. There's an element of historical revisionism among the Brotherhood in FO4, some of the NPCs comment in passing that Lyons was a weak and bad leader, even though he was quite popular, if controversial, among them in FO3.

The Brotherhood of FO4 are different from the other versions in that they're basically an authoritarian military junta lead by a demagogue. They do care about civilian life to a certain extent, but they place their own needs and goals above the sanctity of human life. Compare to the west coast Brotherhood who cared about people, protecting technology from the ravages of time and were willing to make deals with other groups, and were lead by a council of the oldest members, and to the FO3 east coast Brotherhood who placed protecting people above technology and had a largely civilian leadership headed by their oldest member who held his rank as a result of the traditional power structure they had left behind.

[BFEL]

They'd generally survive 100x better if they didn't use vertibirds.  Vertibird crash has to be far and away the primary cause of KIA reports among the BoS.

METAL MAN NO FLY
IF METAL MAN MEANT TO FLY HAVE METAL WINGS
LIKE JETPACK
JETPACK FINE

So anyway have they seriously STILL not released the modding tools?

[BigD145]

They'd generally survive 100x better if they didn't use vertibirds.  Vertibird crash has to be far and away the primary cause of KIA reports among the BoS.

METAL MAN NO FLY
IF METAL MAN MEANT TO FLY HAVE METAL WINGS
LIKE JETPACK
JETPACK FINE

So anyway have they seriously STILL not released the modding tools?

They have shitty expansions to sell first.

[KingofstarrySkies]

I didn't know you have inside knowledge of Bethesda's offices and content, BigD
They're releasing them some time in April.

[Aseaheru]

 Combat rifles with .308 are fun. Really fun.

 Killing-deathclaws-in-roughly-30-rounds fun.

[umiman]

They'd generally survive 100x better if they didn't use vertibirds.  Vertibird crash has to be far and away the primary cause of KIA reports among the BoS.

METAL MAN NO FLY
IF METAL MAN MEANT TO FLY HAVE METAL WINGS
LIKE JETPACK
JETPACK FINE

So anyway have they seriously STILL not released the modding tools?

I highly recommend the mod that amps the survivability of vertibirds. I don't know what the devs were thinking with these 1hp ones.

[MrWiggles]

They'd generally survive 100x better if they didn't use vertibirds.  Vertibird crash has to be far and away the primary cause of KIA reports among the BoS.

METAL MAN NO FLY
IF METAL MAN MEANT TO FLY HAVE METAL WINGS
LIKE JETPACK
JETPACK FINE

So anyway have they seriously STILL not released the modding tools?

They have shitty expansions to sell first.

Then why are they releasing it in april, when they'll only have one dlc out by then?

[Glloyd]

They'd generally survive 100x better if they didn't use vertibirds.  Vertibird crash has to be far and away the primary cause of KIA reports among the BoS.

METAL MAN NO FLY
IF METAL MAN MEANT TO FLY HAVE METAL WINGS
LIKE JETPACK
JETPACK FINE

So anyway have they seriously STILL not released the modding tools?

They have shitty expansions to sell first.

Then why are they releasing it in april, when they'll only have one dlc out by then?

Shhhh, don't interrupt the circlejerk in its natural habitat.

[MrWiggles]

And on top of that, its the cheapest DLC to.

[MarcAFK]

You say that like people buy DLCs individually.