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Author Topic: Fallout 4: It Just Works  (Read 840807 times)

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Re: Fallout 4: P R E L O A D I N G
« Reply #2655 on: November 06, 2015, 10:26:40 pm »

Yeah actually, I'm totally behind that.  The brain-bullet gave the character an *excuse* to be an amnesiac, but on a subsequent playthrough that wouldn't necessarily be true.
I guess maybe the dev is just saying that *canonically* there was no amnesia.  In my playthroughs there was.  Much like, of all the things we can do in each game, one of them inevitably becomes the canon ending.
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« Reply #2656 on: November 06, 2015, 10:43:38 pm »

Much like, of all the things we can do in each game, one of them inevitably becomes the canon ending.
Tell that to Daggerfall :P
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« Reply #2657 on: November 06, 2015, 10:45:42 pm »

Haha, yes, it's wonderful how that clusterflick appeared in lore.
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« Reply #2658 on: November 06, 2015, 10:50:57 pm »

Haha, yes, it's wonderful how that clusterflick appeared in lore.

And Morrowind. So far it seems whenever there are multiple endings the canon ending is all of them!

The universe functions via narrative causality.
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« Reply #2659 on: November 06, 2015, 10:55:04 pm »

Morrowind went for the "vague" route. Oblivion went for the "no conflicts" route. Skyrim will probably go for the "irrelevant" route.

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« Reply #2660 on: November 06, 2015, 11:05:58 pm »

Morrowind went for the "vague" route. Oblivion went for the "no conflicts" route. Skyrim will probably go for the "irrelevant" route.

I honestly thought Skyrim's plot would matter more... But it took the strange route of making it not matter.

It is like the opposite of New Vegas where what you see seems to not matter, but eventually they tell you exactly how it will somehow completely transform the fallout universe.
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« Reply #2661 on: November 06, 2015, 11:13:07 pm »

I thought the skyrim main story and civil war story was super lame. The civil war didn't even do ANYTHING until you started the quests. had to get a mod to fix the stupid civil war to make it happen even without your influence, and your side could even lose the civil war. and skyrim was filled with douche kids, douche jarls, douche ulfric that was a used cars salesman, douche empire that was corrupted and tons of douche npcs and even the blades turned into douches. skyrim was one big douchefest.

i liked oblivion vastly more than skyrim, but skyrim modded was better than oblivion modded
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« Reply #2662 on: November 06, 2015, 11:28:49 pm »

Skyrim was so bad that I started playing Morrowind again.
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Re: Fallout 4: P R E L O A D I N G
« Reply #2663 on: November 07, 2015, 12:08:10 am »

Skyrim was so bad that I started making over-exaggerated claims about how bad it was again.
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« Reply #2664 on: November 07, 2015, 12:09:20 am »

Eh.. Skyrim wasn't so bad. But it did have its flaws and shortcomings.
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« Reply #2665 on: November 07, 2015, 12:09:34 am »

I liked and thoroughly enjoyed all 3 3D Elder Scrolls games. The real problem is when you begin comparing all of them to each other. I liked the story and spell/alchemy mechanics of Morrowind the best. Oblivion I think had the best voice acting and ascetics as far as environments (oblivion gates and kool-aid lava notwithstanding). Skyrim nailed combat and stealth. I can't say I like any one of them any more then the others, they all have their own merits and experiences. Exponentially once you add mods to each.

Now, with Fallout I can comfortably say; I feel the exact same. Each game was it's own experience and I can't bring myself to put one on a pedestal. Fallout 4, even if it makes me have wet dreams, will not change that.

tl;dr, I'm a very content gamer.
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« Reply #2666 on: November 07, 2015, 12:23:15 am »

Most of what Jimbo said.  They had their own strengths, and I'm personally glad that each installment is fundamentally different.  A lot of sequels are hard to distinguish from expansion packs.
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« Reply #2667 on: November 07, 2015, 12:24:33 am »

A lot of sequels are hard to distinguish from expansion packs.

Suddenly, COD comes to mind.
However I have no right to judge really, since I have not even played any of the games in that franchise. :p
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« Reply #2668 on: November 07, 2015, 12:32:21 am »

I kind of prefer to think the player character of NV was an amnesiac.
It's not like it gives you any of your backstory, after all. Much more sensible just to be amnesiac in that case, and you just got capped in the head so that's pretty understandable. One can only imagine the Lonesome Road business was either confusing as fuck or quite therapeutic for the courier.
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« Reply #2669 on: November 07, 2015, 01:13:06 am »

Morrowind went for the "vague" route. Oblivion went for the "no conflicts" route. Skyrim will probably go for the "irrelevant" route.

Am I the only one who thinks the most significant event in Skyrim wasn't the Dragons or War, but the Black Star?
I mean think about it. This is the first time ANY mortal magic has touched the level of shit the daedra have.

The Black Star is basically the mortal races putting their dicks into the pot of the gods, swirling it around and finishing with "come at me bro"
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