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Re: Death to the false emperor, Battle in the forest (warhammer40k SG)
« Reply #75 on: June 29, 2015, 09:15:13 pm »

It takes you a week of travelling on cart worn tracks until you reach the city of Uirstbury.

After a day of searching you finally find the right collector.

With your face blacked and dark clothes, your barely visible in the dark shadows of the night.
A quick wave and your men take up there positions.

The front door looks to be formidable, a mass of thick oak planes banded with iron studs and barred from the inside.

Formidable, yes but all to avoidable, the fools have left a window unbarred on the floor above.

It's a small window, maybe one foot by three, and made dozens of small glass pieces.
The hole will be just big enough for you.

After a quick hand up, your hanging on by your finger tips, fighting for grip on the ruff stone work.
Slowly you pry away at soft lead holding the glass in place.
Without a sound, you pull the last glass shard from the window.

Turning sideways you fit your shoulders in the gap, with a wiggle and shimmy,you slowly pulling your self inside thu the gap.

With a free hand you break your fall as you enter a dark room.
A desk, two bookcases and padded chair, this must by a sturdy.

With a gentle click you ready your bolt pistol.
Softy you slide you body weight from foot to foot as you head down the hallway.

The door to the ground floor opens with a creek, and you make you way across  a room filled with ancient antique furniture.
Slideing back the door bolts, you let the cultist in.

Follow me, Up stairs, you gesture as he enter the shop.
Slowly you creep up the stairs, takeing care not let the creek.
Finally you reach the last room, a crack and the ruby red flash of a laser bolt scorches your eyes as the cultist staggers back.

You blink trying to clear the laser blasts after image from your eye.
The scorched remains of his chest smoulder on the floor, filling the room with the stick of burning flesh. as he fall down dead.

A small old man with white hair, darts from his bed, colliding with you, sending the both of you tumbling into a heap on the floor.

Younger, faster and stronger you soon grapple your way on top of him.
A quick thrust of steel and it's over, he lies dead in a pool of blood.

You find a wire stretched over the door way, and at the other end is a battered las pistol.
Stuffing it in to your belt, you start looking for the Sword.

You can feel the sword calling out it wants to be found, as you turning the room upside down.
Pulling the dirty bed sheets aside you see it, a grey metal box marked with runes of stasis.


As you turn to look closer at the box, the sound of "♪♫♩Hoo-ray and up she rises, Hoo-ray and up she rises..♩♪♫" fills the air, Time for you to leave...

You push the door open to face half a dozen men with lanterns and swords at the ready.
"There! Seize them!" shout a beard man as he points at you.
 
Hob nailed boots clatter on the cobbles as you race away from the house, back towards the stables.
There a dozen yards behind you when you round the final corner.
Running still you vault swiftly in to the saddle and spur your horse on in a single movment.

Coat blowing as you ride, you leap the toll point and ride on in to the night.
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"Right right. After we're done with our current plate, and the otheres get back. i'll go talk with his villagers about employment oppertunities. Although i have to ask, Would you care if they said no and I put them to the stakes?

Also, any chance you can buy my company of mercenaries as actual soldiers for your forces one day? I think "Captain Bloody Mary" just has a nice ring to it, don't you think?" you ask the Barron


"If there Klingberg's serfs then i don't give a dam.
A Captain? you? well you raise some proper troops in number and we'll see about it." he smiles and raise his glass to you.

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Re: Death to the false emperor, Braking and Entering. (warhammer40k SG)
« Reply #76 on: June 30, 2015, 03:30:25 pm »

Lets go get to our check point and rally our guys up for a possible brawl. While we still have our own sword lets use it and our demonic powers to thoroughly thrash these guys and toss them in a ditch.

Or if we can loose them in the gallop that'd be good to...
 
Think about how many cultist we have left.
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« Reply #77 on: July 01, 2015, 04:18:30 pm »

Lets go get to our check point and rally our guys up for a possible brawl. While we still have our own sword lets use it and our demonic powers to thoroughly thrash these guys and toss them in a ditch.

Or if we can loose them in the gallop that'd be good to...
 

By the time you reach the meeting point, it's clear that you haven't been followed at least by any means you can detect.

Think about how many cultist we have left.

Having arrived last you quickly count, every one in.
Then it hits you just how few cultist you have left, it's just 11 men and women,even counting the ones back at base and the ones away.

Keep the swords sealed for now,  you head back to the Barron's castle.

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"It is done, she, her house and a pair of servants are no more." Kastor takes a swig of wine.
"At least Hermine's getting better at using her gifts, Now let us speak of it no more, we have other concerns."

"Troops i know, i've all ready spoken to Crotwell, an he'll fund our recruitment.
Messengers have been sent out to the local villages.
Along with that we can use any means to impress Klingberg's serfs..." Kastor smiles as you lay out the plan.

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Barron Klingberg's land.

".. What do you mean you've paid?
Let me put it to you in simple terms,
If you pay me now then Crotwell will protect you, from the problems and 'accidents'.
Do you understand? how much simple can it be?"  You tell the village elder.

"No, sow cunt!" the old man spits in your face.

A Sow? I'm I? Well what does that make you? Oh Yes just a old and fat boar.
Sir Kastor, please prepare this pig for slaughter." You smile as Kastor approaches.

He struggles briefly as Kastor hog ties him to a pole.
Unceremoniously the traitor marine dumps on the spit roast holder.

"Now you there, lanky with spots, yes you." you point to a peasanst at the back of the crowd
You'er a bright man, so you can tell me who your taxes go to, can't you?" he's picking his nose with a gormless look on face.

"... uh .. mu you?  Bloody Mary? " he stutters.

" Thats right, i take your taxes to Crotwell, that way you dont have any 'accidents'.
Hermine out guest her must be parched open up some red for him and me." you smile and answer him like he's a small child.

There's a muffled cry as Hermine fills the glasses from the bound elder.
"To the right choice." you toast the peasants as your meal slowly cooks over the fire.
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Tales of your brutality and cannibalistic tastes soon spread, twisting them selves and growing more extreme with retelling.   

The fear is a good motivator, villages fall by the dozen and your forces swell to the hundreds.

From among the normal cultist you pick out 60 of the best ladys, there's will form elite crack troop of women, the Sisters of Maria.
But that's later, right now they need training.

And you need consider you next move

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Lets hear you idea for the Sisters of Maria training?
But remember that you only have 60, so full on Training from Hell will reduce there numbers.

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Re: Death to the false emperor, Braking and Entering. (warhammer40k SG)
« Reply #78 on: July 01, 2015, 04:52:41 pm »

I am thinking we do the wolves of fenris method and send them out with nothing into the wilderness except for some leather scraps and a  bottleof blood too survive and that those that survive will under go gun and cqc training
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Re: Death to the false emperor, Braking and Entering. (warhammer40k SG)
« Reply #79 on: July 01, 2015, 05:03:13 pm »

Did we lose our Ogyrs?

Also..

Sisters of Maria we'll need them adorned them with chain male and a white that is worn on the upper part of the body. That way there legs can run free of obstruction. They will all wear white clay masks depicting smiling women.

They shall all carry swords of steel and semi-automatic pistols. (We'll buy the pistols by asking our lord Baron to help fund our equipment costs for these girls).

Said weapons shall be blessed by the blood as would fit the blood god Khorne.

Training for the first month. Super Conditoining with stamina and reflexes followed by low basic sword and medium gun use.

Second month. Lowering the time required for (low conditioning) conditioning and focusing more on sword use (Basicly Super training for sword use). Repeat until each sister is at least half as above powerful as that of the average of Klinbergs men. Then medium time to Gun use.

Third month. Medium conditiong followed by close combat with ( Heavy focus on pistols basically) pistols. Each sister will run a course where they must run and shoot targets near them in order. 6 targets of hay men till be up and they must all complete the course in 30 seconds. Followed by advanced sword use (Low focus).

They start their training at 5:30 in the morning and end at 4:40. Followed by a 1 hour of personal training and then 1 hour of free time. After that they go through 2 hours of indoctrination of chaos where we will trick them into drinking blood of our enemies and chant for Khornes tainting.

Regulars:

Chainmail with face paint depicting creatures of power like bears, lions, and dragons in red the color of blood.

Their training for the three months will be high conditionig for general body building, followed by medium use of Guns (muskets but really preferably automatic or semi-automatic rifles), and then low focus for dagger use/hand to hand combat.

They shall wear nothing overly special as they will probally be their to blend in with the Barons troops for the most part.

Finally, as awesome as double wielding a sword would be lets give it to Kastor since he has no sword. He'll be our Infantry commanding officer.

Newly appointed Lt. Hermine will head our Logistics and Psyker networks. Once were done with that we'll get her own crew of psykers.

We of course will lead our new Sisterhood and all the other operations. We should speak to the Baron about a merging our troops into his and making us the Captain.

All troops except officers will go to Indoctrination that will be led by Hermine. She is to use whatever means to turn them. Those unfit will be put up a stake and the others will drink their blood.

One last thing, Funk that link is broken.

I am thinking we do the wolves of fenris method and send them out with nothing into the wilderness except for some leather scraps and a  bottleof blood too survive and that those that survive will under go gun and cqc training

Ninja'd.

Can we compromise and do this after training? I think it would be a good "Graduation Exam".
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Re: Death to the false emperor, Braking and Entering. (warhammer40k SG)
« Reply #80 on: July 01, 2015, 06:53:24 pm »

Fixed the link, and your troop count.

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Re: Death to the false emperor, Braking and Entering. (warhammer40k SG)
« Reply #81 on: July 02, 2015, 06:22:31 am »

The grammar of this is making my internal grammar nazi scream in agony. I'll indulge it for a moment and give a couple small corrections.

There is a difference between "There" and "Their"

'There' is used like this: "There once was a cat."

'Their' is used like this: "Their legs are bleeding"



Commas are lifesavers.

"Lets eat, grandma!"

"Lets eat grandma!"


If it sounds like there should be a pause, put a comma or a period. Always put periods at the end of sentences.



'Themselves' is one word. 'Them selves' means something completely different and is grammatically incorrect.

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".. What do you mean you've paid?
Let me put it to you in simple terms,
If you pay me now then Crotwell will protect you, from the problems and 'accidents'.
Do you understand? how much simple can it be?"  You tell the village elder.

To fix the major errors in this is quite simple:

".. What do you mean you've paid? (This is perfectly fine. This part is grammatically correct.

Let me put it to you in simple terms, (This is technically correct, however a : instead of a comma goes better in context.

If you pay me now then Crotwell will protect you, from the problems and 'accidents'. (This sentence is sorta jarring but not too bad. A better format would be: "If you pay me now, Crotwell will protect you from any 'accidents' that may occur.." (With this format, it sounds a tad more threatening, as well as being grammatically correct. If a sentence feels like it's gone on too long, it probably has.)

Do you understand? how much simple can it be?"  You tell the village elder. (This has two sentences that could be one. Like this: "Do you understand how much simple this could be?"  You tell the village elder. (Can technically works in some contexts but technically doesn't in this specific context. Also try reading the original sentence out loud and compare it to the tweaked one. The second one flows better.)



Bad grammar nazi. Be quiet. That's enough.

Anywho, hopefully that sorta helped~

And question about Hermine. Did I miss character development somewhere? She went from Spoiled Inquisitor's Pet Navigator to Chaos Sorcerer with no prompting or reason. She got held at gunpoint, dragged partway across the galaxy, and hasn't really had any motivation to join Chaos whatsoever. She has no motive. Unless Khorne is literally raping her mind, it doesn't make sense. She went from being an Inquisitor's pet mutant to getting dragged around with violent, brutish chaos cultists. Doesn't make sense for her to just go along with it. Specially due to the training licensed Psy's get in the imperium. They are very well aware of the dangers of chaos. They are also very well aware of what the warp can do to them. With the current character development, it's an odd shift that doesn't quite make sense to me.
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Re: Death to the false emperor, Braking and Entering. (warhammer40k SG)
« Reply #82 on: July 02, 2015, 11:29:45 am »

I think I want the second, I am quite hungry for some aged meat.
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Re: Death to the false emperor, Braking and Entering. (warhammer40k SG)
« Reply #83 on: July 02, 2015, 11:30:39 am »

Did we lose our Ogyrs?

Also..

Sisters of Maria we'll need them adorned them with chain male and a white that is worn on the upper part of the body. That way there legs can run free of obstruction. They will all wear white clay masks depicting smiling women.

They shall all carry swords of steel and semi-automatic pistols. (We'll buy the pistols by asking our lord Baron to help fund our equipment costs for these girls).

Said weapons shall be blessed by the blood as would fit the blood god Khorne.

Training for the first month. Super Conditoining with stamina and reflexes followed by low basic sword and medium gun use.

Second month. Lowering the time required for (low conditioning) conditioning and focusing more on sword use (Basicly Super training for sword use). Repeat until each sister is at least half as above powerful as that of the average of Klinbergs men. Then medium time to Gun use.

Third month. Medium conditiong followed by close combat with ( Heavy focus on pistols basically) pistols. Each sister will run a course where they must run and shoot targets near them in order. 6 targets of hay men till be up and they must all complete the course in 30 seconds. Followed by advanced sword use (Low focus).

They start their training at 5:30 in the morning and end at 4:40. Followed by a 1 hour of personal training and then 1 hour of free time. After that they go through 2 hours of indoctrination of chaos where we will trick them into drinking blood of our enemies and chant for Khornes tainting.

Regulars:

Chainmail with face paint depicting creatures of power like bears, lions, and dragons in red the color of blood.

Their training for the three months will be high conditionig for general body building, followed by medium use of Guns (muskets but really preferably automatic or semi-automatic rifles), and then low focus for dagger use/hand to hand combat.

They shall wear nothing overly special as they will probally be their to blend in with the Barons troops for the most part.

Finally, as awesome as double wielding a sword would be lets give it to Kastor since he has no sword. He'll be our Infantry commanding officer.

Newly appointed Lt. Hermine will head our Logistics and Psyker networks. Once were done with that we'll get her own crew of psykers.

We of course will lead our new Sisterhood and all the other operations. We should speak to the Baron about a merging our troops into his and making us the Captain.

All troops except officers will go to Indoctrination that will be led by Hermine. She is to use whatever means to turn them. Those unfit will be put up a stake and the others will drink their blood.

One last thing, Funk that link is broken.

I am thinking we do the wolves of fenris method and send them out with nothing into the wilderness except for some leather scraps and a  bottleof blood too survive and that those that survive will under go gun and cqc training

Ninja'd.

Can we compromise and do this after training? I think it would be a good "Graduation Exam".
Agreed. I think this will do good.
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Re: Death to the false emperor, Braking and Entering. (warhammer40k SG)
« Reply #84 on: July 02, 2015, 02:07:11 pm »

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And question about Hermine. Did I miss character development somewhere? She went from Spoiled Inquisitor's Pet Navigator to Chaos Sorcerer with no prompting or reason. She got held at gunpoint, dragged partway across the galaxy, and hasn't really had any motivation to join Chaos whatsoever. She has no motive. Unless Khorne is literally raping her mind, it doesn't make sense. She went from being an Inquisitor's pet mutant to getting dragged around with violent, brutish chaos cultists. Doesn't make sense for her to just go along with it. Specially due to the training licensed Psy's get in the imperium. They are very well aware of the dangers of chaos. They are also very well aware of what the warp can do to them. With the current character development, it's an odd shift that doesn't quite make sense to me.

This. I think Khorne and involved with the PTSD were feeding her with our battles/executions has brainwashed her. That said, we should keep a close eye on the mutant...

Also, Funks games all have big grammar issues. Checkout the Cyborg one (which btw congratulations it seems to have run on for a long time) has many such issues.

-another snip-

Agreed. I think this will do good.

3man75 regime followed by Spazyak's graduation test. Should take a while but hey who can turn down grizzled super chaos troops hmm?
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Re: Death to the false emperor, Braking and Entering. (warhammer40k SG)
« Reply #85 on: July 02, 2015, 02:33:37 pm »

I'm the first to admit, some of the games grammar is just plan horrible.
My spelling is even worse but they don't make grammar checkers.
Not that it'll stop me from add a link to my cyborg game here.

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And question about Hermine. Did I miss character development somewhere? She went from Spoiled Inquisitor's Pet Navigator to Chaos Sorcerer with no prompting or reason. She got held at gunpoint, dragged partway across the galaxy, and hasn't really had any motivation to join Chaos whatsoever. She has no motive. Unless Khorne is literally raping her mind, it doesn't make sense. She went from being an Inquisitor's pet mutant to getting dragged around with violent, brutish chaos cultists. Doesn't make sense for her to just go along with it. Specially due to the training licensed Psy's get in the imperium. They are very well aware of the dangers of chaos. They are also very well aware of what the warp can do to them. With the current character development, it's an odd shift that doesn't quite make sense to me.

This. I think Khorne and involved with the PTSD were feeding her with our battles/executions has brainwashed her. That said, we should keep a close eye on the mutant...
Guess i'll have to do a few character segments on her.
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« Reply #86 on: July 02, 2015, 03:27:59 pm »

I'm the first to admit, some of the games grammar is just plan horrible.
My spelling is even worse but they don't make grammar checkers.
Not that it'll stop me from add a link to my cyborg game here.

-Snip-
And question about Hermine. Did I miss character development somewhere? She went from Spoiled Inquisitor's Pet Navigator to Chaos Sorcerer with no prompting or reason. She got held at gunpoint, dragged partway across the galaxy, and hasn't really had any motivation to join Chaos whatsoever. She has no motive. Unless Khorne is literally raping her mind, it doesn't make sense. She went from being an Inquisitor's pet mutant to getting dragged around with violent, brutish chaos cultists. Doesn't make sense for her to just go along with it. Specially due to the training licensed Psy's get in the imperium. They are very well aware of the dangers of chaos. They are also very well aware of what the warp can do to them. With the current character development, it's an odd shift that doesn't quite make sense to me.

This. I think Khorne and involved with the PTSD were feeding her with our battles/executions has brainwashed her. That said, we should keep a close eye on the mutant...
Guess i'll have to do a few character segments on her.

Damn 2 years...My games are LUCKY to reach a week lol.
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« Reply #87 on: July 11, 2015, 03:03:41 pm »

They shall all carry swords of steel and semi-automatic pistols. (We'll buy the pistols by asking our lord Baron to help fund our equipment costs for these girls).

"You come at a bad time to ask for money, your man Kastor just passed me a list of thing you'll need.
Have you seen the cost's he racking up all ready?

And now you want even more money!
60 autopistols, there 3 Gold eagles each!" the baron exclaims.

"Do you know what this is?" Kastor holds out a clenched fist
"This is the only true currency, the ultimate power, violence.
True wealth flows from the barrel of a gun, the blade of sword, the crunching of broken bones not from books of number and shiny coins but this.
As a wise man once said, Bellum se ipsum alet." Kastor leaves, the shell sitting in front of the baron.

"Well i see what i can do..."

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Training
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You split up the troops, with the hand picked Sisters of Maria training on there own.

"It will be hard, some of you may perish but those that survive there training will be my sisters." you announce to the gathered ladys.
Three months of hard training follow.
A steady patten of route marches and combat skills, hardening there body's as there skills grow.
Daily "counter-indoctrination" sessions help them over years of oppression as the truth slowly enterers there minds.

By the middle of the second month, the stakes of combat training have risen with bouts regularly spilling blood.

At the end of the third month there finished training and it's time for the Graduation Exam.

The final test is wilderness survive, the recruits have to make there way back to the barons keep, across a hundred miles of wilderness with nothing not even clothes.

Over the next few days the equipments arrives, with you note no autopistols, in there place you find Stub Pistols, a hundred and twenty of them.

At midnight you Assemble the surviving recruits in the court yard, ready to swear an oath.
 
"Today we swear before the four gods, an oath of union, a pact of  loyalty and equality."
You open your wrist with a dagger and hold it over a large bass bowl.
In turn each of the Sister opens her wrist and add her share to bowl.

"Let us be one blood with each other! For the blood god Sisters!" with the sworn oath, you drink a cup full of the blood.
 
The bowl slowly emptys as each sister swears the oath.

Finally they stand before you, the Sisters of Maria.

Spoiler: Sisters of Maria (click to show/hide)

There an impressive site, each is dressed in a chain mail shirt, crossed with a pair of white leather bandoliers.
Long sword and pistols sit in reach of there white gloved hands as white cloaks trail down to white knee high boots.

The frozen smiles from there masks add a sinister air to there presence.
 
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Finally, as awesome as double wielding a sword would be lets give it to Kastor since he has no sword. He'll be our Infantry commanding officer.
"You want me to have it? the Sword of Yanf-arnork?
Well this is certainly an honour, but we don't deal in honour do we?
I own you something for it, name it and it's yours." Kastor states as he takes the sword.
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"Well Captain, you've troops better be ready.
I've just gotten a report from my spies, Klingberg's men are marching to attack us.
Now they are still a few days way but he has both more men and guns than us.
I fear he plans to besiege us." Crotwell sounds worried as he speaks.

Your forces
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Re: Death to the false emperor, Training time. (warhammer40k SG)
« Reply #88 on: July 11, 2015, 03:20:51 pm »

Perhaps we hid the sisters in the woods around the fortress and have our men at the walls and the ogryn at the gates. those men will be lead by Kastor. Support shall be given by our psyker, but if she refuses we can slice a finger.
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Re: Death to the false emperor, Training time. (warhammer40k SG)
« Reply #89 on: July 11, 2015, 04:52:56 pm »

We'll personally lead the sisters by hiding in the forrests. Kastor and Hermine will lead the other 400 alongside with w.e Troops Baron Crotwell has. Once midnight comes we'll sneak into the main camp and kill Klienberg and set fire to the main camp. While the enemy has a beat on us Kastor will sally forth with a 100 man charge into the enemy when their not looking. We'll fight our way to Kastor and then withdraw as they cover us when we go inside. The enemy will most likely be too tired and disorganized to follow and we'll have safely retreated inside.

The next day we'll cheer the death of Lord Klienberg. If need be we'll do it again every night by sneaking out in the darkness.

Send Crotwell with a small scout team to figure out the enemies numbers and types. Seems weird he would ride out against us when he's lost so much already.

"I assure my lord that victory will be ours. I'll lead my crack troops in an ambush position and attack at night. The rest of my men will stay within the walls to protect your person until the first fires of Klienbergs main camp are seen. Then Kastor will lead a 100 man charge to help us withdraw back into the walls. Without their Lord, the troops will start to desert en masse. Captain Bloody Mary's name will grow again today."

Awesome picture by the way. I loved everything but the hair and I wish the smile was more sinister or Joker like instead of just red lipstick. But hey that takes work and i'm just glad to see this back.

EDIT: Why is it that the other cultists didn't get any training? They should have at least conditioned into something usable..oh well. Meat grinder in case they go for the gold to quickly.
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