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[Chiefwaffles]

So, they aren't smart enough to be a faction... Thus they are a faction?

So can we count the doves as their own faction?

Logically, yes. The doves would be a neutral faction.
The Lost area not aligned with ADVENT or XCOM. They will attack both sides. They are in their own faction gameplay and lore-wise.

[Neonivek]

Ok, this might be my opinion but. To be a faction you have to have a certain level of organization and intelligence.

They can be PART of a faction. Yet I am not sure they can BE a faction unless they have a hive mind.

So I am not sure if they are just using the term faction willy-nilly, OR if there is more to the zombies.

(Also no, the Doves are not a Neutral faction! They exert no will onto the proceedings)

[lordcooper]

 

[Aklyon]

Can we target the doves with explosives?

If so, they're an enemy faction. If you get a friendly fire warning for trying, they might be neutral.

[Chiefwaffles]

Ok, this might be my opinion but. To be a faction you have to have a certain level of organization and intelligence.

They can be PART of a faction. Yet I am not sure they can BE a faction unless they have a hive mind.

So I am not sure if they are just using the term faction willy-nilly, OR if there is more to the zombies.

(Also no, the Doves are not a Neutral faction! They exert no will onto the proceedings)

There's something here...

Ok, this might be my opinion but. To be a faction you have to have a certain level of organization and intelligence.

Look deeper...

Ok, this might be my opinion but. To be a faction you have to have a certain level of organization and intelligence.

Huh.

Ok, this might be my opinion but. To be a faction you have to have a certain level of organization and intelligence.

I think I see the problem here.

my opinion

Fun fact: It is possible to have a wrong opinion. This is hyperbole, but you can say "in my opinion, the world is flat" and that'd be wrong. Opinions aren't exempt from reality!

[Neonivek]

Can we target the doves with explosives?

If so, they're an enemy faction. If you get a friendly fire warning for trying, they might be neutral.

The explosives themselves are also part of a faction. A Neutral faction because explosions hurt anyone caught up in them.

It is possible to have a wrong opinion

Goodness Waffles calm down. Here, have a Taco!

[Chiefwaffles]

Nope, explosives are a subset of XCOM's faction because there were fired by an XCOM soldier with an XCOM launcher. It wouldn't be called "friendly fire" if friendlies didn't exist for the projectile, after all.

[Persus13]

Neonivek does have a point that the term faction usually refer to some sort of organization. Its just that the XCOM2 devs are using the term more loosely than that to clarify that this is something different from the ADVENT/Aliens and the new human ally factions.

At any rate, can you please not blow up the thread again.

[Neonivek]

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

I had no idea if the husks were somehow intelligent or if they were being loose with the term.

[Aklyon]

At any rate, can you please not blow up the thread again.

With neonivek or with xcom explosives?

[Rince Wind]

Explosives are fine, unless XCOM zombies are in the vicinity.

[somemildmanneredidiot]

Unless there's an intelligence behind the Lost that is being kept hushed up.

[Teneb]

Kinda weird the aliens would create something that couldn't be controlled like the Lost.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Probably something that continues to do with the non-Ethereal threat that has been referenced but never seen pretty frequently.

Alternatively, it's a side effect and they had no idea that the completely standard Primitive Immobilization Fluid would cause zombification in humans after long-term exposure.

[misko27]

Kinda weird the aliens would create something that couldn't be controlled like the Lost.

Given the Chryssalids from the last game, it's not too unusual for the Aliens to make decisions with, unforeseen consequences.

Alternatively, it's a side effect and they had no idea that the completely standard Primitive Immobilization Fluid would cause zombification in humans after long-term exposure.

This is my bet, given they have some of those green goo pods. Finally, we might now know what the fuck those things are. Maybe those are the humans they never picked up during the "abduction" phase of the invasion, and eventually they break out and overrun the cities.

Alternatively, I could imagine universes in which it was intentional, or at least viewed as a positive externality. Hordes of zombies do have the effect of depopulating the non-ADVENT cities and making the ADVENT cities much more attractive by comparison. It forces humans to spread out and provides an excuse to build cities from the ground up with controlling the populace in mind. The Aliens might not have planned it, but seen it happening and said "Ok cool. Just make sure they stay in those cities and we're great."