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[Sirbug]

Looks like I'm getting my life back on track, even though I'm probably months behind schedule. Still suffering from grenadier shortage.

Just killed Avatar. I need to know - will there be more Avatars? So I could prepare furniture to smash in frustration in advance.

[Aklyon]

Yes.

[EnigmaticHat]

Just killed Avatar. I need to know - will there be more Avatars? So I could prepare furniture to smash in frustration in advance.

I have a hard time feeling the same way about the avatar... seeing as how the first one I fought got shot three times by a specialist with guardian before it got to do anything.

[BFEL]

Just killed Avatar. I need to know - will there be more Avatars? So I could prepare furniture to smash in frustration in advance.

I have a hard time feeling the same way about the avatar... seeing as how the first one I fought got shot three times by a specialist with guardian before it got to do anything.

Yeah, you guys kinda spoiled that for me, so I was pretty overprepared for it when it happened. Dead in the turn it revealed.

[Rolan7]

Jumping back in to this, and kinda wondering whether I'll be able to pull off a win on this first run.  I'm playing on Veteran, and it was honestly kicking my butt.  It's June 10 and I have 26 dead, I can't keep skilled soldiers alive. 

Avenger: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=628108019
Geoscape: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=628107809

Possibly because I still don't have plated armor.  I have magnetic weapons, but I just can't kill the enemies as fast as apparently most people can (it's a little frustrating to hear these tales of trivial success on Commander).  I suspect my biggest mistakes have been trying to sneak past enemies (then sacrificing my people to do an objective while hopelessly surrounded), and letting myself be rushed by the frustratingly short mission timers.

I kinda think I can win this, but it's frustrating that there are 5 pips that I can do nothing about.  And that's after defeating the first codex.  There's a base in Africa, too, which I'd have to *really* push to reach.  Should I?

Sounds like psi troopers are useful, too, so maybe I should research them after I get basic armor.

I can handle faceless, Advent, sectoids mostly, vipers tend to fuck my guerilla tactics, mutons aren't too bad, and codexes are bs...  No respect for turn economy, sure just teleport a duplicate behind me.  My squaddies don't have the near guaranteed hits that most players apparently have, so that's super painful.

Haven't even seen archons or andromedons yet, much less gatekeepers.

[Toaster]

If you still have to kill all the enemies, trying to sneak past the first ones can often lead to you getting surrounded.  Concealment isn't true stealth; you can't stealth your entire way through any mission.  Think of it as allowing you to choose the terms of your first engagement; get some high ground and open up with a sniper shot to the dome of that guy you don't really want to deal with.  Flashbangs and mimic beacons are your get out of jail free cards, though be advised flashbanged sectoids switch to their gun.

Learn what needs to die first.  Sectoids aren't on this list.  Codexes aren't #1 priority either.  Vipers are priority.

Don't worry too hard about that avatar progress.  This isn't EU: aliens get no advantage at 1 progress versus 11; it's only a game end condition.

Finish that plated armor; not only will it turn several dead soldiers into wounded soldiers, that extra item slot goes a LONG way.  Scanners, ammo, medkits, skulljack, all sorts of cool toys can come along with all-important grenades.

PSI is very useful. 

[Cthulhu]

Flashbangs disable clone and teleport on the codex.

Also without spoiling anything, avatars are much worse the next time you fight them.  So many good dudes never got to see the fruits of their labor.

[misko27]

Flashbangs disable almost every trick organic enemies throw at you, period. Sectoids, Codex, Stun Lancers, Vipers, flashbang'em and they are less deadly then your average trooper.

Are you using grenades to you full advantage? Grenades are awesome. They shred armor, they remove cover, they knock holes in buildings, and they detonate cars. They are so nice there is an entire class dedicated to them.

Have you considered using the Black market? You have quite a lot of Intel, Alloys, and Elerium that you could use to get a hell of a lot more supplies. If you contact the East US, you get Under The Table and bump up your profits.

Are you training your rookies? It might be a good way of at least providing more. Remember that you can get two good fighters per month in exchange for supplies and Intel at the Resistance HQ and Black Market respectively. Good for those profitable but deadly missions, and plugs the holes in your rosters.

Also don't even consider sneaking past any mission except one where you must extract to win (Alien Facilities, Hostages, etc). Since you need to kill everything eventually, use concealment to just effectively erase a pod from the map.

Believe me, my squaddies don't get guaranteed hits. Maybe just think more about elevation bonus and flanking? I don't really know what your problem is with that.

[Rolan7]

Thanks!  Yeah, I'm working on the Black Market now.
I've been using frag grenades to shred armor, but I had no idea plated armor would double soldier inventory.  That will help a ton.  I definitely should have rushed that and magnetic weaponry, and the training school.  Instead of...  whatever unmemorable story-progression stuff I researched instead.  And all these autopsies except faceless and arguably mutons...  I mean, mind shields?  Seriously?  And the defensive matrix lol.

Sounds like blind and mimic grenades are powerful as hell, so I'll definitely start using those.  Particularly once I have twice as much inventory, hell.

[Flying Dice]

Don't research any non-plot autopsies. Kill enough of the enemy and you can instantly complete them.

[Karlito]

It's worthwhile to research some of the rarer enemies that give good items (faceless), but otherwise yeah.

[Sirbug]

Just killed Avatar. I need to know - will there be more Avatars? So I could prepare furniture to smash in frustration in advance.

I have a hard time feeling the same way about the avatar... seeing as how the first one I fought got shot three times by a specialist with guardian before it got to do anything.

Well, I didn't have a specialist with guardian. What I did have is mind controlled Colonel Ranger chasing after my guys with a sword and Avatar darting across the map while regenerating 5 hp per turn.

[Man of Paper]

Lucked out, researched and manned defensive matrix just before a UFO went "hey guys". Three dead, two bodies recovered, one left behind as she left the safe zone due to panic and I was getting swarmed by advanced lancers.

Also sent a mec into orbit as it jumped up a few z levels and my epic grenadier and an overwatched turret took it out.

Sidebar, did my Irish rifleman yell "CUUUUUUUUUNT" as he died?

[EnigmaticHat]

Just killed Avatar. I need to know - will there be more Avatars? So I could prepare furniture to smash in frustration in advance.

I have a hard time feeling the same way about the avatar... seeing as how the first one I fought got shot three times by a specialist with guardian before it got to do anything.

Well, I didn't have a specialist with guardian. What I did have is mind controlled Colonel Ranger chasing after my guys with a sword and Avatar darting across the map while regenerating 5 hp per turn.

I can see how that would be frustrating

[BlackHeartKabal]

Spoiler:  Contains late game ayy lmao (click to show/hide)

Guerilla Op, Rapid Response and Vigilance events active.
A 6 man team, go loud killing an Andromedon.
Objective able to be hacked, trooper and lancer pod triggers, there's a Heavy MEC with them.
Kill the MEC, blow down a wall, mow down troopers, a full health and 1 health trooper left along with a Stun Lancer behind a car.
1 health trooper runs off to get a friend, and Rapid Response drops reinforcements behind me, I had everyone overwatch.
Overwatch is completely spent on a single Trooper with the response pod.
The current situation is
2x Elite Troopers, one in half cover, and a one HP one in full cover.
A Sectopod that the 1 HP trooper bought back with him.
An ADVENT MEC and HEAVY MEC flanking the entire squad.

So I turn around and have my Grenadier drop a plasma grenade on the MECs. The Colonel Gunslinger mops up with a shot, Lightning Reflexes, and Faceoff.
My Psi Operative, out of options, MCs the full health trooper in half cover to draw fire.
The specialist hacks the terminal and takes a small intel cache.
The remaining two Rangers fire at the Sectopod. Both of them crit at a 35 percent chance.
AYY LMAO
The sectopod tries and fails to shoot a ranger, and then rises up like a goddamn Tallboy and primes some attack. The stun lancer zapped and disoriented my gunslinger, and the 1 HP guy shot my MCed friend.
VIGILO CONFIDO
The Grenadier fires and destroys the Sectopod. The Specialist revives and heals the Gunslinger, who then double taps the Stun Lancer.
I have the MCed soldier run up, point blank to the one health trooper and throw a frag grenade.
MISSION SUCCESS
SOLDIERS WOUNDED: 1
SOLDIERS KILLED: 0