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Re: X-Com 2: Welcome Back, Commander.
« Reply #3870 on: February 05, 2016, 12:29:35 am »

Kruniac, you aren't exactly sounding helpful or anything. You're sounding like someone who expects it to not be what you want and didn't bother to look at any news about it anyways, so that you can complain it is not UFO Defence in 3d.
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Re: X-Com 2: Welcome Back, Commander.
« Reply #3871 on: February 05, 2016, 12:30:27 am »

Bwah. I don't know whether to sleep or play or what. I'm so conflicted  :'(

Same. 10 minutes to go on unpacking. I suppose I'll get in at least a taste of the game before I go to bed...
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Re: X-Com 2: Welcome Back, Commander.
« Reply #3872 on: February 05, 2016, 12:31:38 am »

Sleep is for ADVENT scum.
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Re: X-Com 2: Welcome Back, Commander.
« Reply #3873 on: February 05, 2016, 12:33:27 am »

Soldiers forced to die in tutorial, even though I saw a way better spot for them to take cover: 1

I'm not done with the tutorial yet though...
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Re: X-Com 2: Welcome Back, Commander.
« Reply #3874 on: February 05, 2016, 12:33:59 am »

Was probably dumb to grab the mods before starting the game unpack
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Re: X-Com 2: Welcome Back, Commander.
« Reply #3875 on: February 05, 2016, 12:36:22 am »

Kruniac, you aren't exactly sounding helpful or anything. You're sounding like someone who expects it to not be what you want and didn't bother to look at any news about it anyways, so that you can complain it is not UFO Defence in 3d.

1: I didn't look at any news so I would be surprised.

2: I don't care if it's UFO Defense in 3d.

3: I just heard it has the same shit classes from the first. Sigh. That's not how you make a squad-based tactical game.

Literally getting a play-by-play from my friend who is playing right now. Atmosphere is badass, seems like an upgraded EU (Which is the worst thing you could say), classes are shit, load times are a little long.

Meanwhile, rage posts continue about performance, and flame wars ensue about whether it's "right" to complain about a game that just came out. Not getting involved in that war.

Just heard it has more of a Syndicate feel to it than XCOM. Definitely interested now. ^.^
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Re: X-Com 2: Welcome Back, Commander.
« Reply #3876 on: February 05, 2016, 12:38:41 am »

Unpack done goodbye world.

If you hear a story of a 20something american disappearing for weeks direct them to this forum. I'm sure the NSA will be able to track me down from my posts here.
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Re: X-Com 2: Welcome Back, Commander.
« Reply #3877 on: February 05, 2016, 12:42:03 am »


Syndicate was... well. It's not the same. Real time hilarity and whatnot. The only thing that would be the same I'd say is the nature of upgrades and mods to soldiers. Also dystopian future. (I just realized that you might be talking about the new supposedly crappy Syndicate reboot. I have no idea about that but only the super awesome old version, so carry on)

My only gripe is that instead of making the AI super smarter and all that to increase difficulty they just start doubling the amount of enemy hp bars and there's a timer on just about every early mission that punishes you for playing the game tactically.

"Here, rush in and ultimately put some of the squad at the mercy of RNG because you want to get to the objective in time" is not the original tactical XCOM, which is why you might hear complaining. It instead feels like a gamble like trying to S-Rank old advance wars or Fire Emblem missions where you rush some of your units forward and hope RNGesus makes your enemies miss or not crit so you can finish the mission in time.

That's my current feeling on the gameplay, but it's still fun. It's just definitely not old tactical X-COM.

And if anyone's wondering, I tested the game in Classic and "FUCK YOU" mode.
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Re: X-Com 2: Welcome Back, Commander.
« Reply #3878 on: February 05, 2016, 12:43:56 am »

Engaging Kruniac ignore system. Loading... 5%... 34%... 76%... 100%. Kruniac now fully ignored. Proceed with enjoyment.

I might actually be making a come-back from an almost squad-wipe. Tense game is tense, yo.

Also, yeah, not a huge fan of timers in missions, but that's a personal preference. It certainly fits with the theme of get in, blow/hack/kill stuff up, get out. And fast, before the reinforcements get there.

In fact, that's how I got my squad almost wiped. Enjoying the tension though.

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Re: X-Com 2: Welcome Back, Commander.
« Reply #3879 on: February 05, 2016, 12:45:25 am »

Hah. My mind-controlled sniper couldn't hurt me because I left him in the previous turns without ammo.
ALL PART OF MY MASTER PLAN, I ASSURE YOU.
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You should really look to the wilderness for your stealth ideas, it has been doing it much longer than you have after all. Take squids for example, that ink trick works pretty well, and in water too! So you just sneak into the dam upsteam, dump several megatons of distressed squid into it, then break the dam. Boom, you suddenly have enough water-proof stealth for a whole city!

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Re: X-Com 2: Welcome Back, Commander.
« Reply #3880 on: February 05, 2016, 12:48:28 am »

girlfriend having feels, delaying XCOM 2, so torn, wat do
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Re: X-Com 2: Welcome Back, Commander.
« Reply #3881 on: February 05, 2016, 12:49:34 am »

My girlfriend has feels. Support the girlfriend, XCOM 2 will be waiting silently for your return.

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Re: X-Com 2: Welcome Back, Commander.
« Reply #3882 on: February 05, 2016, 12:50:59 am »

Also, yeah, not a huge fan of timers in missions, but that's a personal preference. It certainly fits with the theme of get in, blow/hack/kill stuff up, get out. And fast, before the reinforcements get there.

In fact, that's how I got my squad almost wiped. Enjoying the tension though.

Yeah, I had this talk with Umiman on Steam last night, where he got my rant lol.

XCOM2 is a good game so far, but it's definitely not old tactical X-COM. So analysis on why that is I'm just posting so hopefully some who hasn't bought yet can make a decision on whether it's a game for them.

EDIT: Anyhow there's supposedly Xenonauts 2 and UFO to fill that void so I'm not too worried about a lack of classic X-COM experience.
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Re: X-Com 2: Welcome Back, Commander.
« Reply #3883 on: February 05, 2016, 12:52:09 am »

Hah. My mind-controlled sniper couldn't hurt me because I left him in the previous turns without ammo.
ALL PART OF MY MASTER PLAN, I ASSURE YOU.

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girlfriend having feels, delaying XCOM 2, so torn, wat do

I'd say if she's important to you, you choose to be there for her, and own that choice as your own so you don't harbour resentment towards her.

Yeah, I had this talk with Umiman on Steam last night, where he got my rant lol.

XCOM2 is a good game so far, but it's definitely not old tactical X-COM. So analysis on why that is I'm just posting so hopefully some who hasn't bought yet can make a decision on whether it's a game for them.

I just don't understand where people would've gotten the idea this would ever be old tactical X-COM though. There's Xenonauts and future-Xenonauts 2 for that.


Also, load times for me aren't bad at all. I mean, I just alt-tab away (#borderlesslife) and it's usually over in a jiffy!


Edit for great importance: the T and G keys are amazing. They zoom in and out. My mind is blown.

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Re: X-Com 2: Welcome Back, Commander.
« Reply #3884 on: February 05, 2016, 12:54:37 am »

I just don't understand where people would've gotten the idea this would ever be old tactical X-COM though. There's Xenonauts and future-Xenonauts 2 for that.
Probably due to them using the name XCOM :P

I kid I kid, that's why the devs went with XCOM instead of of X-COM: the rebootening
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