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Neonivek

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Re: X-Com 2: 275 Hours Until Unification Day
« Reply #3360 on: January 24, 2016, 03:30:25 pm »

Sorry for offtopic, but I don't know where I could ask this. Why do people dislike the UFO series (Afterlight, Aftershock, Aftermath)? From what I saw in the screenshots, those games look exactly like the original XCOM but with better graphics.

Ignoring the difference between graphics and aesthetics.

They really don't play similarly but honestly ignore the differences, ignore everything that makes them differently. The real issue with them is that their gameplay needed more refinement.
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Re: X-Com 2: 275 Hours Until Unification Day
« Reply #3361 on: January 24, 2016, 03:32:09 pm »

They're not like the original X-Com in that they're real-time with pause instead of turn-based and some different mechanics. They're also (Aftermath especially) very glitchy.

As for people not liking them, I haven't gotten that impression. I like them just fine myself, though not as much as other X-likes.
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Re: X-Com 2: 275 Hours Until Unification Day
« Reply #3362 on: January 24, 2016, 03:39:02 pm »

Sorry for offtopic, but I don't know where I could ask this. Why do people dislike the UFO series (Afterlight, Aftershock, Aftermath)? From what I saw in the screenshots, those games look exactly like the original XCOM but with better graphics.
They don't really hate them (i don't think so anyway). Also the game is very different from the mechanical standpoint. For one thing it's not turn based making it closer to X-Com apocalypse then the original game.

Mind you the game is not half bad... it is however very different.
Oh and X-Com2 REALLY reminds me of Aftershock.
Forming a resistance. Fighting alien loving fanatics. Owning a flying base (admittedly the flying base is a bit less important because all the important buildings are built on the ground.)
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« Reply #3363 on: January 24, 2016, 03:41:48 pm »

And what about UFO: Extraterrestrials which is also not getting a great many positive remarks compared to the original XCOM? There's also UFO: Extraterrestrials 2 coming out this year (as it can be read on the website) if one didn't know.
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Re: X-Com 2: 275 Hours Until Unification Day
« Reply #3364 on: January 24, 2016, 03:46:49 pm »

I like the UFO afterblank games because they feel very unique and different to plain old XCOM. They have a very interesting atmosphere and a world that feels very interesting and unique.

However as with all eastern european games, that comes at the expense of bugs and polish. Aftermath especially. Which is a shame because I liked its dark, oppressive atmosphere more than the later entries into the series.
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« Reply #3365 on: January 24, 2016, 03:57:41 pm »

I like the UFO afterblank games because they feel very unique and different to plain old XCOM. They have a very interesting atmosphere and a world that feels very interesting and unique.

However as with all eastern european games, that comes at the expense of bugs and polish. Aftermath especially. Which is a shame because I liked its dark, oppressive atmosphere more than the latter entries into the series.

I will say if it wasn't due to its late game (Every single enemy gets a rapid fire AoE weapon... because yeah... of course they do) and its gameplay being stretched on for FOREVER!

I'd love Aftermath as well.
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Re: X-Com 2: 275 Hours Until Unification Day
« Reply #3366 on: January 24, 2016, 04:01:57 pm »

I like the UFO afterblank games because they feel very unique and different to plain old XCOM. They have a very interesting atmosphere and a world that feels very interesting and unique.

However as with all eastern european games, that comes at the expense of bugs and polish. Aftermath especially. Which is a shame because I liked its dark, oppressive atmosphere more than the latter entries into the series.

I will say if it wasn't due to its late game (Every single enemy gets a rapid fire AoE weapon... because yeah... of course they do) and its gameplay being stretched on for FOREVER!

I'd love Aftermath as well.
Oh dear lord that endgame. I have no idea how pissed off I was when I managed to get through to the final chamber, only to find out I'd used up all my grenades and all of my explosive ammunition beforehand only to figure out they were kinda necessary for the finale.

Still, at least it tried to innovate. Unlike Extraterrestrials which was basically just a carbon copy of XCOM with mild alterations. Though It'd be remiss of me to say I did not at some level enjoy it.
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« Reply #3367 on: January 24, 2016, 04:12:34 pm »

You can innovate or you can perfect

Extraterrestrials went the perfection path
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« Reply #3368 on: January 24, 2016, 04:14:24 pm »

I am disappointed at the infrequent updates of the thread title. I was lead to expect hourly updates.
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Re: X-Com 2: 275 Hours Until Unification Day
« Reply #3369 on: January 24, 2016, 04:19:25 pm »

You can innovate or you can perfect

Extraterrestrials went the perfection path
One might argue that seeking perfection means seeking stagnation.


In any case, yaay, XCOM 2 and suchlike.
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Re: X-Com 2: 275 Hours Until Unification Day
« Reply #3370 on: January 24, 2016, 04:22:57 pm »

I am disappointed at the infrequent updates of the thread title. I was lead to expect hourly updates.
This is, frankly, your own fault for expecting so much devotion from the one and only MetalSlimeHunt.
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« Reply #3371 on: January 24, 2016, 04:36:30 pm »

And what about UFO: Extraterrestrials which is also not getting a great many positive remarks compared to the original XCOM? There's also UFO: Extraterrestrials 2 coming out this year (as it can be read on the website) if one didn't know.

Extraterrestials were basically a copy of the original with some extra bits.
Heck i can list them out.

1 - Additional weapon tiers (you go 2 extra tiers after plasma)
2 - A lot more armored vehicles (You even get to build "sectopods").
3 - More armors (some are specialized against a certain kind of damage but it's mainly just a side effect of more weapon tiers).
4 - a different geoscape and better airgame than what X-Com originally had.
5 - No death. Your soldiers just go "unconscious". (there are mods that fix it however)
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« Reply #3372 on: January 24, 2016, 06:19:39 pm »

I don't really care about UFO 2 Extraterrestrials or XCOM2 either...all I want is Xenonauts 2.  :P
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« Reply #3373 on: January 24, 2016, 06:28:30 pm »

I don't really care about UFO 2 Extraterrestrials or XCOM2 either...all I want is Xenonauts 2.  :P
Does Xenonauts 2 have snektits? If not, it is a clearly inferior product.
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Re: X-Com 2: 275 Hours Until Unification Day
« Reply #3374 on: January 24, 2016, 06:34:22 pm »

I don't really care about UFO 2 Extraterrestrials or XCOM2 either...all I want is Xenonauts 2.  :P
Does Xenonauts 2 have snektits? If not, it is a clearly inferior product.

We shall know the answer in 2017.   :D
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