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[Teneb]

I haven't watched the streams, so if someone who did could answer me, I'd be grateful: is there any sort of confirmation on movement (a sort of "you sure about this move?")? I lost so many soldiers in ironman in EU/EW because I either clicked on the wrong square by accident or due to how the z-levels were represented sometimes ended up sending someone to the wrong place.

[Mephansteras]

I haven't watched the streams, so if someone who did could answer me, I'd be grateful: is there any sort of confirmation on movement (a sort of "you sure about this move?")? I lost so many soldiers in ironman in EU/EW because I either clicked on the wrong square by accident or due to how the z-levels were represented sometimes ended up sending someone to the wrong place.

Nope. On the bright side, you can now give waypoints so they don't go through dumb paths.

[nenjin]

I'd be nice if some next gen game dev could set a new standard for how to dev a game at consoles and PC simultaneously, and not have it make the PC version control and handle like shit. XCOM: EU to me was like the posterchild for bad console UIs stapled to an otherwise very good PC game. I can forgive a lot from a game that has to please two masters, but slogging through a UI built for consoles that make next to no accommodations for computers is a lot of tedium to work through constantly just to try and enjoy the game.

[Graknorke]

Impossible without just making two versions of the game. Which is what they should do but it's cheaper to not so they won't.

[nenjin]

Not to derail, but I don't know if you need two separate games. Some games come really close to doing both well. It's just that MOST games either a) just shackle the PC to the console control schema because they have to answer to Sony and Microsoft, or, b) do a really incomplete job. They miss prompts (All. The. Fucking. Time.) adjusting correctly to the input. They don't put enough thought into keybindings for the PC so, for example, mapping the same button to two different functions on two different screens is too much work. They don't do sanity checks on input. (For example in X-COM:EU, grenade targeting with a mouse is ridiculous because it's expecting analog input and gets the equivalent most of the time. But when it doesn't....madness.)

I don't really ever expect graphical and hardware issues to ever be resolved. But input and UI? Surely the industry could try harder here than it is now, by and large.

[Rolan7]

It does really bug me when PC games have poorly ported console interfaces...  TES games come to mind.  But I don't actually see any issues with the NewCOM interface.  It was clearly designed to work on consoles yeah, but it seemed pretty good for PC too.  Better than OldCOM's interface (though one should hope).

Curious to see what they come up with now that they aren't releasing on consoles.

[Graknorke]

Looks like XCOM except the actions are bound to actual hotkeys instead of numbers that change all the time. Very glad of that.

[MaximumZero]

How well did Consolecom do, anyway?

If my store's sales were any indication, it did...not well, despite my best efforts.

[Mephansteras]

Anecdotally...every single one of my PC gamer friends has it. None of my console-only friends have it, despite me praising it a good deal. Not sure why the console crowd isn't interested but...they just aren't.

[ZebioLizard2]

Anecdotally...every single one of my PC gamer friends has it. None of my console-only friends have it, despite me praising it a good deal. Not sure why the console crowd isn't interested but...they just aren't.

How many people get consoles for turn based squad based games? Tends to be a rarity.

[nenjin]

Used to be the norm...

[scriver]

I remember playing strategy games on Plsystation and thinking it was really clunky and tedious to move the "mouse pointer" anywhere, whereas an actual mouse and keyboard didn't have that problem. I don't know if that's the case still with the newfangled console controllers that I've never used, but it's probably a leftover from the old days regardless.

A bit of a shame because I don't think the control scheme of nucom itself would be particulary clunky in that particular way. It was made for consoles after all.

[Flying Dice]

nuCOM's controls were clunky and imprecise on PC. I shudder to think about what it would have been like trying to play with a gamepad.

[kilakan]

quite a bit easier surprisingly... I actually use my controller for my computer half the time just because it's a lot smoother.

[BFEL]

quite a bit easier surprisingly... I actually use my controller for my computer half the time just because it's a lot smoother.

Though in my case it's also because I played consolecom before truecom, so I'm more used to it with a controller.

Fun Fact: Nucom is the game I have bought the most times while feeling zero regret. Bought EU when it first came out on Xbox, then bought the Slingshot DLC for it. Later bought EW for console, then bought it all on PC.