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[Toaster]

I guess that settles that as well:  SmallTown is "near the city but still getting services from ADVENT, btw guys hop on that nice bus to ADVENT City it's even better inside" while ShantyTown is "nope screw you ADVENT" "k but gl bro."

[Chiefwaffles]

If it's just a randomized dude that's even more dumb considering that they're releasing mod tools so you could easily just do the same thing yourself...

If XCOM2 is just a game, that's also really dumb considering that they're releasing mod tools so you could easily just do the same thing yourself...
But yeah. I agree! Instead of making a simple yet neat bonus for pre-ordering, they should dedicate development time to a full length expansion available only if you pre-order!

Sarcasm aside, I really dislike the philosophy that the top priority of a game should be modeing capabilities. The thought that anything can just be nodded in later.

[Graknorke]

But XCOM has really terible mod support.
And mod support is pretty crucial for a game to last long-term. Skyrim wasn't particularly good, but it managed to stay on the first couple pages of the Steam top sellers for years. Likewise Cities:Skylines is still up there because people can mod it to stave off it getting boring.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

That said, Long War was developed with direct assistance from Firaxis, so in that sense it has incredible mod support, just no tools.

[Rolan7]

Did it?  I've honestly not played NewCOM in a while because my install has some old version of Longwar installed, and I can't easily switch.  (And that version of Longwar crashed reliably every time I faced Advent Exalt)

Though I guess even Bethesda games don't exactly make it easy to switch mods, unless someone writes a tool for it first.  Bluh.

Kudos to Paradox for the mod-selector on startup.  Here's hoping...

[Mephansteras]

All of that beside, something being easily modded in doesn't stop it from being a nice pre-order bonus. It's not like the vast majority of customers necessarily do much with modding tools themselves, they just download stuff other people make. And anything that shows up day one that's different from the day one experience you'd get without the pre-order is in fact a bonus.

[Chiefwaffles]

Focusing on mod support over every other feature =\= putting a focus on mod support.
I fully support the latter, which is what XCOM2 is doing. The former was just a bit of hyperbole meant to convey my annoyance with people just assuming every feature of a game can easily get modded in if the feature wasn't present.

[Aklyon]

So guys, I heard you like xcom videos. Beaglerush's got some new Xcom2 preview mission videos.

[Egan_BW]

WHAT YOU SAY.
I'll need to see this when I get to a real computer.

[Mephansteras]

I know what I'm watching today.

[miauw62]

opening and closing doors can be done infinitely on one turn 0/10 game casualized af firaxis gibe tu pls

[Culise]

Wait, we can close doors?  What hubris!  Does this ALIEN SCIENCE! know no bounds, no limitations?

((Also, what's Beaglerush?  Something like this?))

[Aklyon]

He's a guy that play xcom a lot.

[Rolan7]

Huh, this is the first time I've actually been *jealous* over review copies or whatever.  I really want to play XCOM 2...
This guy does make good Long War videos though, if you're into someone being really good at the game and pretty funny about it.

[scriver]

Wait, we can close doors?  What hubris!  Does this ALIEN SCIENCE! know no bounds, no limitations?

Clearly the invasion crisis forced our evolution as a species to leap forward. Had we only had this opportunity before, perhaps the invasion would never have been lost.

Anyway, what I really want to see is a bunch of examples of generated maps, to see how random the "random by setpiece" would get.