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[Persus13]

Makes you wonder if civilians can openly ask a viper or sectoid for directions... or interact with them the way you probably could with a policeman.
After all both seem to walk in broad daylight on most early missions.

I kinda doubt it since not even advent troopers seem to speak anything vaguely resembling human speech and relying on alien barks instead.

How do you know they're not just communicating in alien to avoid tipping you off what their plans are?

[Sonlirain]

Makes you wonder if civilians can openly ask a viper or sectoid for directions... or interact with them the way you probably could with a policeman.
After all both seem to walk in broad daylight on most early missions.

I kinda doubt it since not even advent troopers seem to speak anything vaguely resembling human speech and relying on alien barks instead.

How do you know they're not just communicating in alien to avoid tipping you off what their plans are?

Because they speak in alien gibberish when they stop people at checkpoints.
Seen in gatecrasher when Bradford gets inspected for example.

[EnigmaticHat]

The best explanation I have for that is that the aliens looked at all the varied languages humans speak and were like "nope, you want to live in our fancy cities, you learn a few words of ethereal."

[Neonivek]

As peeved as I am on how the aliens are depicted in Xcom 2 with "come on are they even trying?"

I probably would have felt the same way over an accurate depiction of Pre-WW2 Germany.

[KingofstarrySkies]

...What'd you mean, 'come on are they even trying'? And the hell does Germany have to do with it...?
thou doth not makes the sense

[Neonivek]

...What'd you mean, 'come on are they even trying'? And the hell does Germany have to do with it...?
thou doth not makes the sense

The aliens are very transparent and idiotic... with paper thin disguises.

In fact... one of the game's twists is only a twist because you wouldn't think the aliens would be so dumb.

[EnigmaticHat]

Its how Firaxis has chosen to tell the story.  The aliens' propaganda is part of the story; if it was effective propaganda then Firaxis wouldn't be getting across the message that the aliens are Bad Dudes.

Although "effective propaganda" is already a bit questionable; propaganda in RL mainly works by flooding people who don't have free access to information with pro-government messages, or by "selling" people things they already want to believe.  See: WW2 propaganda that basically says "we're great, our enemies are evil".  There's plenty of RL propaganda that looks stupid in a vacuum.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I'm just sad Firaxis won't let us have Reverse Terror Missions.

[scrdest]

I'm just sad Firaxis won't let us have Reverse Terror Missions.

Someone could mod this in... Hell, my squads already look like they fight inexplicably multi-national counter-terrorist teams to blow up random arabic marketplaces.

Mostly though, I'm sad they chickened out with ADVENT Troopers. It would be far more interesting if they were just regular-ass human collaborators who joined off the streets because it beats mugging people in alleys, maybe with gene-mods to bolster them, a'la EXALT. Instead, they are basically Stormtroopers, and once the tutorial mission is done, they are treated as just another alien type without a second thought, and since Clones Are Expendable, they basically *are*.

[misko27]

I'm just sad Firaxis won't let us have Reverse Terror Missions.

Someone could mod this in... Hell, my squads already look like they fight inexplicably multi-national counter-terrorist teams to blow up random arabic marketplaces.

Mostly though, I'm sad they chickened out with ADVENT Troopers. It would be far more interesting if they were just regular-ass human collaborators who joined off the streets because it beats mugging people in alleys, maybe with gene-mods to bolster them, a'la EXALT. Instead, they are basically Stormtroopers, and once the tutorial mission is done, they are treated as just another alien type without a second thought, and since Clones Are Expendable, they basically *are*.

They are literally stormtroopers though. Literally.

And since it is yet another thing XCOM shares with Half-Life 2, I'm inclined to allow it.

I'm just sad Firaxis won't let us have Reverse Terror Missions.

I understand why this is, but I can't help but feel saddened. I'd really like it for there to, once in a blue moon, have there be a mission with the goal "Wreck havoc!"

[scrdest]

No, HL2 Metrocops are actual human blackshirts who one day kissed their wife, walked the dog, drunk a morning coffee, went to the Combine cop-shop, put on the armor, took up a stunstick and went a-police brutalizin'. Even the higher tiers are extensively modified transhumans who one day put on the white gasmask for better rations.

ADVENT Troopers are literally clones, same as every other alien unit - they have never been human. They are mass-produced synths.

[Egan_BW]

I actually do wish that Valve didn't dehumanize the metrocops so much though. Like, less distorted voices, transparent face mask instead of gas mask, etc. Might give some nice contrast with overwatch soldiers too, who are actually augmented.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Well, it's out. Download has begun.

[Aklyon]

So everything is broken besides ini edits until the mods get going again, I'd assume?

[misko27]

Well, it's out. Download has begun.

I have clearly misunderestimated how soon this would be available. A pity, as I am still knee deep in school work.

*Looks at the patch notes*

They nerfed the tier-2 grenades. Minor nerf to evac, as you now can't put down evac where a soldier is standing. Nerfed Repeaters, they now no longer work with DoT or Stock. The Avatar time thing has been changed! Now the timer no longer refills after the Doom clock starts. Makes sense, that was incredibly cheesy. Fix for Hazard suits and acid.

Seems like they've fixed several issues about environmental destruction, explosives, and animations. Grenades will no longer pre-emptively destroy the environment before blowing up. Skulljacks no longer levitate people, and neither should picking up bodies. Viper bind less buggy. Some fixes on loadouts, which is good because I didn't understand them at all.

ADVENT and aliens now get ranged boni/mali! Interesting.

Also a huge number of changes to multiplayer, too many to describe really. Like, I think every single unit has been touched.

Also yay, character bios are now longer (woo!), and the default ones have been adjusted (lol looks like they noticed the 10-yr old warheroes).

And a bunch of stuff about performance that will really only be meaningful to someone who actually understands graphics.