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[BurnedToast]

....why exactly is this confirmed to be xcom?

Unless I'm missing something it could still easily be something else, the evidence all seems to be a lot of wishful thinking.

(I'd love a new xcom though)

[Teneb]

Let's please not turn this into another Old-Com vs NewCOM argument. The old thread had plenty already. Instead, we should focus on the hype.

....why exactly is this confirmed to be xcom?

Unless I'm missing something it could still easily be something else, the evidence all seems to be a lot of wishful thinking.

(I'd love a new xcom though)

There is a lot of evidence in the old thread. I'll edit this post or do another with everything gathered.

[Graknorke]

....why exactly is this confirmed to be xcom?

Unless I'm missing something it could still easily be something else, the evidence all seems to be a lot of wishful thinking.

(I'd love a new xcom though)

Vigilo Confido, XCOM font, "We will be watching" vs "We are still watching", gene therapy...
It's not likely to be much else.

Is it just me, or is the "ADVENT GENE THERAPY" picture not glitching out as much anymore? I might have been imagining it, but I thought it had shadowy figures and something involving shackling.

No, you're right. The level seems to vary over time. This morning (for me) was when I first noticed it had toned down there.

[rabidgam3r]

Is it just me, or is the "ADVENT GENE THERAPY" picture not glitching out as much anymore? I might have been imagining it, but I thought it had shadowy figures and something involving shackling.

[scriver]

I always assumed "Vigilo Confido" meant "We trust in the Watch(/Watchers)" or something like that, and was a joke on the old "Who watches the watchers" thing and related philosophia.

[Parsely]

PTW

[BurnedToast]

....why exactly is this confirmed to be xcom?

Unless I'm missing something it could still easily be something else, the evidence all seems to be a lot of wishful thinking.

(I'd love a new xcom though)

Vigilo Confido, XCOM font, "We will be watching" vs "We are still watching", gene therapy...
It's not likely to be much else.

I assume you're referring to the advent symbol made of "lies" but I don't see a V anywhere.

Edit: in the picture in the linked pdf. I'm a little more convinced but I'm still not getting my hopes up :|

The rest all seems a little bit like a stretch to me - for example bioshock had an emphasis on gene modification too.

I'm also not seeing the apocalypse connection - apocalypse had nothing to do with shady corporations abducting people (or whatever) it had to do with cartoonish aliens from another dimension.

I'm not saying it's not xcom, I'm just saying it seems very premature to say "WELP IT'S XCOM FOR SURE"

[Remalle]

GET HYPE

[Sheb]

The V. come from the gene therapy .pdf, where some obviously wrong elements are in red.

[Teneb]

Collection of quotes from the previous thread where we pretty much determined it is XCOM "2".

Spoiler: VIGILO CONFIDO (click to show/hide)

It does sound a lot like what happens after all that Ethereal tech and meld hit the civilian market.

I guess the "we are still watching" being one of the hacked messages means that XCOM will be an underground resistance group. Could ADVENT be a Cult of Sirus equivalent or EXALT with another name, especially since the EXALT leader is not captured/killed during the raid on their headquarters.

This seems more and more like Apocalypse+NewCOM...
The hackers emphasize abductions, and are "still watching".  ADVENT literally calls the process "Gene Therapy".
And this image really looks like a NewCOM map, with plenty of convenient cover blocks:
https://downloads.2kgames.com/adventfuture/images/en/ADVENT-CityCenters03.jpg
The humanoid figures look weird, too.  The T-poses might be because it's a pre-release screenshot.  But their clothing/armor looks a lot like XCOM's bulky style.

And this picture actually emphasizes a set of strange, clone-like figures in the background.  Possibly bald.  Too blurry to tell if they're wearing the ADVENT symbol on their torsos, or if it's a ribcage-like armor... Seems really familiar but I'm not sure from where.
https://downloads.2kgames.com/adventfuture/images/en/ADVENT-Prosper.gif
They could be Apocalypse-style hybrids, perhaps due to meld.

Also, I really really want it to be Apocalypse+Newcom

So opening this one PDF and examining it finds the font used in it is literally called XCOM-Regular in the files, and in one of the website images you can see movie poster assets that are reused from the XCOM maps. If you look closely everyone in the promotion images on the site have snake pupils, and there's a guy on reddit saying there's a building from Toronto in one of the images, and Mega-Primus was built on the ruins of Toronto back in Apocalypse.

Also this got added to the site in a recent update https://downloads.2kgames.com/adventfuture/images/en/ADVENT-CityCenters03.jpg

The font Furtuka is talking about.

Am I the only one bothered by the chemical image in the gene therapy .pdf? Hydrogen doing triple bonds... And those elements in red. I'm sure there is something behind this.

ADVENT is most definitely an EXALT equivalent or successor.
What I'm getting is this: After the end of the war, X-Com is disbanded as it no longer has a purpose and the alien technology is adopted wholesale by humanity. Shen and Vahlen discover how to mass produce meld, alloy, and elerium as they hinted they would be able to. EXALT is gone but the core backers of the transhuman conspiracy remain active. People who were experimented on by the Ethereals produce strange children, whom are eventually found to have been genetically modified by the aliens. The original abducted don't display traits, but their offspring do, and through natural meld production they are viable organisms. Pure humans hate and fear the hybrids, mostly due to the idea that they are intended as alien sleeper agents in the event that the Ethereals were destroyed. Dr. Raymond Shen goes on to improve upon the Ant Hill AI and SHIV AIs to produce truly self-aware machines, thinking it better that humanity create anew rather than turn the knife of progress upon itself. People don't hate and fear the machines because they don't see them as anything beyond workers, and don't care for this talk of objects having human rights.

Eventually, let's say 2080, EXALT's backers reform as a public group called ADVENT which is making a case for humanity to embrace self-modification wholesale. They are developing a proof of concept by colonizing Toronto, which was destroyed by the first terror mission of the Ethereal War and never truly rebuilt. Between that and the continued degradation of Earth, it is badly needed. A shining city on the hill that shall be the advent of the new age, Mega-Primus. Human, Hybrid, and Machine all shall be welcomed into this glorious new society.

However, ADVENT has made contact. Not with the Ethereals, but with their once-masters. A trans-dimensional entity or entities who have intentions upon humanity and the Gift. Empowering ADVENT as Their Earthly hand, Mega-Primus is in fact a trap for human experimentation in order to bring Them into our reality. They seek worthy form, and once nearly found it in the Ethereals, but ultimately even they failed Their test. With ADVENT's claws in almost every world government, there is no possibility of stopping Their ascension.

That is, except for X-Com. Oh, they tried to disband X-Com. For the most part they even succeeded, the vultures. But X-Com lived on as a conspiracy in the hearts and minds of those who fought under its banner and those who knew Earth would need to be protected. With the way human lifespans have been extended, a lot of the old hands are even still around. I mean, really, did you think that a crazy mad science loving bitch like Dr. Vahlen was going to fade into old age? She was a xenologist before we even knew there were going to be xenos! She tortured Ethereals to death for fun (and science, and the survival of humanity, but fun)! 110 is the new 40 when you're the type of person who drinks meld for breakfast and doesn't afraid of anything. Besides, she can't die. We haven't finished science yet. And Bradford? Come on, he lives to fight aliens. Dude has nothing else going for him besides the vintage sweater shop. There was always going to be a conspiracy as long as he was around. Now, Shen was certainly pushing the bounds of even what medical enhancement could accomplish, but you can't keep a good engineer down. Especially when that engineer is the world's foremost expert on how meld can bridge human neurons to computer circuits. Goodbye failing organic body, hello machine immortality!

And in the pristine but obscurely sinister streets of Mega-Primus, the screens all light up at once as the former head of the Council of Nations speaks: "Do not believe the ADVENT lies. They are the enemy. We are still here, and remember, we will be watching."

X-COM: ENEMY BEYOND

Remember that in EU/EW, the council always ends the transmissions with "We will be watching".

It is extremely likely we will see the mysterious councilman. It is extremely unlikely we'll actually see his face.

Speaking of "the city" in what's hopefully an XCOM Apocalypse remake, it appears that there will be multiple cities.
"THE CITY ARE TRAPS" appears in the 'hacked' heading under "Let's Prosper Together."

Could either mean a more traditional NewCom style geosphere, or something cool like managing forces in separate cities.
Or the game is going "screw it" and you only play in one city.

And now we have a mp3 file that proclaims that "We are still here".  It also mentions refugees, so there might be some world disaster going on.

Definitely looks like it's getting updated daily. The "Prosper together" hacked image was there yesterday, along with "The ADVENT is lying to you. They want to subdue". Though today "and destroy us" was added to that. All three of the "Protect/Propagate/Prosper" thingies are hacked now. Also seems like the "Cities of Tomorrow" image is getting more hacked? Maybe there's another image in the "subverted" portions?

I'm pretty sure the mentioned "refugees" is one of two things. Number one is that it could be how the ADVENT guys refer to new citizens to make it seem like the world is in a horrible condition before being uplifted by them. Alternatively, it could be similar to Apocalypse - Earth is almost inhabitable except for few places, such as ADVENT cities. Hence refugees.
_{hype hype hype hype hype}

Earth being mostly uninhabitable is a point that doesn't make much sense, as that was a direct result of Terror From The Deep's ending in the original series. The only way to fit that in I can think of is the wreckage of the Temple Ship raining debris all over Earth immediately after the end of EU.

I think it will be more along the lines of inter-human or human-hybrid-machine conflict with alien tech in the interregnum causing enough harm to make the ADVENT cities necessary. Or just old-fashioned climate change, though elerium would make that an odd outcome.

Regardless, I think it is important to keep in mind the theme quote of Enemy Within, since it was never taken to its conclusion in that game:

Those Who Play With The Devil's Toys
Will Be Brought By Degrees
To Wield His Sword

It's worth it to note that two of the people at the very bottom are listed as "MISSING", and that the "ADVENT CITIZENS" counter seems to be an on-going thing-- Maybe an unorthodox countdown to release?

EDIT: I didn't notice, but the missing citizens also had their text hacked, "we are still here." and "look for our signs." Shit, I bet somebody's running around spraypainting the XCOM shield on ADVENT buildings.

Yeah that was a bit disappointing about Enemy Within.  Despite the fact that aliens practically throw meld at humanity the entire game, for mysterious unexplained reasons, and it's freakin *nanites* we don't understand well enough to reverse-engineer, nothing bad ever comes from pumping our troops full of them.  Despite the name of the expansion, even.

... Yet.  That would be a great, very logical reveal:  "Hey, that free candy was drugged!  Idiots."

I'd suspect the latter, myself.  That gene therapy PDF had an interesting tidbit that I thought at first was a scaling artifact, but may in fact be relevant to this.  The average life expectancy has apparently dropped by around a decade since pre-contact Earth: it's hovering at just over 60 for baseline humans.  Even today, even if you include the worst AIDS-affected nations in Africa, the world average is higher than that.  There's temple ship debris and depending on if that whole "sucking in thing" was a black hole a la Star Trek, possibly a decent influx of Hawking radiation from its sudden evaporation which might have had its own interesting effects on near-term Earth atmospheric patterns (and consequently global agriculture).  There's likely uncontrolled Cryssalids popping out of the ocean at irregular intervals, given their apparent ability to nest in whales and other maritime life.  Terror missions would have done a number on the world's infrastructure, even if they were fended off on the ground by rapid reaction teams from X-COM.  I wouldn't call it uninhabitable, but things might not exactly be rosy.

I highly expect that XCOM isn't exactly on the side of the law anymore. Or at least, isn't okay with ADVENT. And the aliens tie in somehow, I guess.

X-Com having gone underground is a point that's been made in the past. There's also the fact that X-Com: Apocalypse is the only game so far where X-Com can "go rogue" and still win the game, albeit with great difficulty. X-Contras is also thematically appropriate since it is a reversal of X-Com and Exalt's relative positions.

Advent Future is updated again. The globe now says DESTROYING YOUR FUTURE in red X-Com font, and the purple flare in the bottom left is growing. That's a fairly distinctive shape that I think I've seen before...a wormhole diagram?

Another picture has been hacked as well: "we are still here. look for our signs. we will return".

Jake Solomon said on Twitter a while ago that the Volunteer survives Operation Avenger. There's a lot of talk about how ADVENT's name might be referring to the Volunteer's return...as an agent of the aliens.

People are now suggesting that glitched letter arrangements are starting to spell Vigilo Confido. Which, by the way, has always meant "I am watching."

THURSDAY:

    Jacob Roe is gone. "we will return."
    Gene therapy "will shackle you."
    Andrew Matecki is glitching harder.
    Globe says "destroying our future." Text beneath starts a new sentence, "we are".
    Counter starts at 4.8 million now.

Reddit confirms "Vigilo Confido".  XCOM Deux confirmed!

The link in reddit is this. Inside is a hidden link to here, but we've already seen this.

EDIT: the gene therapy part of the main site has changed to "OUR DOOM HAS ARRIVED".

I guess by E3 the site will be completely hacked.

What about those black letters in the LIES.htm page? G F I I O L I D ?

Those letters, combined with the red letters in the PDF can be used to spell out VIGILO CONFIDO

[Jacob/Lee]

I hope someone is archiving all the revisions of the "hacking." These are pretty cool.

[Bouchart]

No trawler missions please.

[Henny]

The hype is real.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[Bitoru]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The Bureau 2

[Graknorke]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The Bureau 2

pls no ;_;