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[Dutrius]

I'm already planning stuff I want to do.

Sorry in advance, Stirk.

[Happy Demon]

I'm planning stuff too.
Though I'm probably going to materialize as a skeleton wolf, since that's quite some time with no food. It's not even skin and bones, it's just bones.
It's mostly for the lulz though, and the mental image of transforming from wolf to human while skeleton is funny to me.

Also, how's the scope going to be initially?
Are we gonna start full god-vision, or start in a random spot, and then gather ourselves for a bit, then go into full god vision?
I'd kinda prefer the latter, as we are pretty much entering a world that's quite alien.
Maybe keep the orientation for a tick or two (or more).

Edit: Damn, soda and tiredness doesn't mix.
What I meant is like...

We wake up, and only worry about immediate surroundings at first.
Maybe some mortals attack us, so we can teach them a lesson, and then we'll have to try and get together a group of followers, starting at cult, then working up.
And we can't just do cosmic events from the get go, we have to collect ourselves/regain focus (you're not ready for a marathon just after waking up) first.

Oh, and just coming back wont be enough to gain all the followers, we'll have to first convince them we're the god they're looking for.
Which means we start with a cult, and ascending to religion would lend credibility to other cults.
No action is without consequence.

[gman8181]

Hmm I never really created a genuine "nation" actually. I mean unless the monsters I made formed one or some adventurers formed one. I feel like the cult route is more likely though.

Well I'm eagerly looking forward to seeing what happens with that anyway.

[TheBiggerFish]

I think a good enough mood ought to convince followers I'm back...Hm.

[Happy Demon]

It'd be kinda pointless to have atheism rise, if it's eradicated within the first few ticks.
Besides, a smaller scope could make it simpler to get the game going at first.

The nothing cult kinda had that problem. We're walking nuclear arsenals, and there seems to be an assumption we have surgical precision with it.
Sure, mortals don't stand a chance against gods, but we shouldn't be able to eradicate all X-worshippers in a single attack.
Actually, we shouldn't even be able to target specific targets.
It's kinda hard to hit the leaders if we're watching the entire battlefield.
Either focus on them, which makes you unable to detect what happens to your dudes, or you have to just fire in their general direction.

There is an exception though, and that is targets that don't even try to hide.
If someone travels with a decorated honor guard and has an enchanted crown on their head, then you can snipe them.
No, it doesn't have to be that extreme, but you should be able to kill high profile targets, not high priority targets.
A hidden general is hidden for a reason. It'd just be stupid if we can just kill all the hidden people because gods.

Actually, I'm not even sure what I'm talking about anymore.
Either I'm talking Litany, Ye Gods, or some other god-game or RP, I'm confused.

[Dutrius]

By Armok, I've already written too much for this. I'm not going to give much away, but it's mostly biological in nature.

[Stirk]

I'm planning stuff too.
Though I'm probably going to materialize as a skeleton wolf, since that's quite some time with no food. It's not even skin and bones, it's just bones.
It's mostly for the lulz though, and the mental image of transforming from wolf to human while skeleton is funny to me.

Also, how's the scope going to be initially?
Are we gonna start full god-vision, or start in a random spot, and then gather ourselves for a bit, then go into full god vision?
I'd kinda prefer the latter, as we are pretty much entering a world that's quite alien.
Maybe keep the orientation for a tick or two (or more).

Edit: Damn, soda and tiredness doesn't mix.
What I meant is like...

We wake up, and only worry about immediate surroundings at first.
Maybe some mortals attack us, so we can teach them a lesson, and then we'll have to try and get together a group of followers, starting at cult, then working up.
And we can't just do cosmic events from the get go, we have to collect ourselves/regain focus (you're not ready for a marathon just after waking up) first.

Oh, and just coming back wont be enough to gain all the followers, we'll have to first convince them we're the god they're looking for.
Which means we start with a cult, and ascending to religion would lend credibility to other cults.
No action is without consequence.

Essentially, it will be like you restarted. Everyone will be restored to full power, new Gods will be created, and you will be able to continue on like nothing had happened (aside from rule-changes). There is no major gameplay change, it is typically easy to prove you exist and get new followers/followers back, and true Atheism only arises in small amounts. Generally, your presence was obviose for long enough that it would be hard to forget, especially when people still-living could remember a time you existed, rocks state everything that ever happened by the Gods, the Asteroids spell out a certain God's name, prayer effects certain magics, and an infallible library/stone can tell you that the Gods do, in fact, exist. Atheism is a very small minority, and is generally among races who's god encouraged that mindset.

Hmm I never really created a genuine "nation" actually. I mean unless the monsters I made formed one or some adventurers formed one. I feel like the cult route is more likely though.

Well I'm eagerly looking forward to seeing what happens with that anyway.

No nations follow the poor guy  . The Dungeon is still a popular sporting and business activity, along with Adventurers adventuring for the sake of Orbs and Advancement. There are a few camps, and a few "Towns", in the Dungeons, though nothing noticeable to a large modern nation.

It'd be kinda pointless to have atheism rise, if it's eradicated within the first few ticks.
Besides, a smaller scope could make it simpler to get the game going at first.

The nothing cult kinda had that problem. We're walking nuclear arsenals, and there seems to be an assumption we have surgical precision with it.
Sure, mortals don't stand a chance against gods, but we shouldn't be able to eradicate all X-worshippers in a single attack.
Actually, we shouldn't even be able to target specific targets.
It's kinda hard to hit the leaders if we're watching the entire battlefield.
Either focus on them, which makes you unable to detect what happens to your dudes, or you have to just fire in their general direction.

There is an exception though, and that is targets that don't even try to hide.
If someone travels with a decorated honor guard and has an enchanted crown on their head, then you can snipe them.
No, it doesn't have to be that extreme, but you should be able to kill high profile targets, not high priority targets.
A hidden general is hidden for a reason. It'd just be stupid if we can just kill all the hidden people because gods.

Actually, I'm not even sure what I'm talking about anymore.
Either I'm talking Litany, Ye Gods, or some other god-game or RP, I'm confused.

Having it "Small scope" would only make it more difficult for me, and generally semi-pointlessly change the type of game it is. It does sound like an interesting idea for a game, but it just isn't one I plan on running. I don't know what you are trying to say with the rest. You are Gods who are capable of seeing major events easily. Watching the entire battlefield is a simple task, and picking up who is the leader and smiting them is something a mortal with a rifle could do. I don't think anybody has even attempted the Genocide of anyone's worshipers yet.

By Armok, I've already written too much for this. I'm not going to give much away, but it's mostly biological in nature.

There are currently no plans to -actually- run the game at this point. Please do not get too excited for now.

[Ama]

I wonder how Lauxal`s creations would do in this modern world, probably not very well I'm imagining..

[micelus]

I should be working on other things but this has been stuck in my head for a while now. Also my headcanon dictates that all dwarves are part of a clan but only Rilem and Space have proven to be powerful enough to be independent.

Codex: Nefel Nanoi/Clan Rilem

Spoiler: Dwarven Relations (click to show/hide)

Clan Rilem, or Nefel Nanoi in their tongue, are the amber-skin dwarves of Obelisk/Fragment One. Brought into existence millenniums after the creation of the first dwarves by the god Mavnon, Rilem has always had mixed relations with their older kin. While physically and genetically identical to other dwarves, the Rilemi hold the drinking of alcohol to be abhorrent, a cultural trait that has never ceased save for the few assimilated Rilemi amongst the dwarven nations. In some ways, which few dwarves care to admit, the Rilemi's haunting sobriety has been beneifical. More than one kitchen has been saved by the one dwarf who wasn't drunk on his ass and more than a few employers are thankful that their workers didn't turn up drunk today. On the other hand, most Rilemi never experience the wonders of a 'pub brawl' or the smell of vomit in the wee hours of the morning, a fact which has created considerable barriers between Rilem and the other clans.

Oddly enough, the fact that many Rilemi worship the hermaphroditic deity of conflict and the dangerously-human god of ambition never seems to be a major point of contention. Rather, the fact that the Rilemi always turn up sober to meetings with a face that screams I'm better than you
seems to be a much greater factor.

The Rilemi for their part see the other dwarves with a mix of scorn, pity and awe. On one hand, the dwarves are their racial compatriots and most would rather socialise with another dwarf than anything else. Furthermore, they are known as great masters of craft and innovation, something many higher-brow Rilemi love with glee. However, the Rilemi also see the other clans as too engrossed in their crafts and brews, not caring about the greater scheme of things. If the other clans were to be more like them, they think, the world would be a far better place. But most Rilemi intellectuals understand such a change to be impossible, unless sponsored by the gods. In lieu of this, most advocate an understanding between the Clans that while there are differences amongst them it makes them stronger as a species rather than weaker.
 

Spoiler: Political Structure (click to show/hide)

 The government of the Clan be roughly generalised as the twelve-member Supreme Council and all employees overseen by the members. In the early days of the Clan, when nearly every decision was advised by the goddess Mavnon, the Regent was the total ruler over the Clan with all other councilors clearly his or her subordinates. Of course, the Regent's supremacy was not a god-ordained right. Indeed, the Mother of Hope had only ordered that the Regent and the Council rule the clan. As such with the growth of the Clan, so to did the Councilors grow in power. Increasing construction, population, technologies and land saw several duties parceled out amongst the Councilors. While the Regent could theoretically overrule them, early Regents rarely exercised this right as the Councilors more often than not were loyal appointees. In time however, many clanmembers questioned the dictatorship of the Regent.

This questioning eventually culminated in the 'Week of Standing' wherein mobs removed the Regent's throne from the Council Chambers as well as his loyal supporters, leaving only the more independent-minded members with comfortable arrangements. By threatening the Regent with the mob, these ambitious souls passed several laws that would enshrine the Regent as simply first-amongst-equals rather than outright ruler. That Mavnon has not reacted towards the shift in political power at all is a sign seen by many as the goddess' approval.

Another major ruling was that Councilors were no longer to be chosen by the Regent but by vote. When a position was empty, the Councilors would vote a candidate from any amongst the Clan and whoever garnered nine votes became the new Councilor. When such a vote is not reached within a week, the vote is tossed out to the populace to decide. This is not merely metaphorical but literal; the council ballot box is tossed into the streets with all councilors legally forced to act disgusted and/or outraged for the remainder of the week.

These 'democratic elections' are perhaps one of the most intriguing events in Rilemi culture. Any Clansman (or woman) may nominate themselves as a candidate, up to and including non-dwarves. For the remainder of the month, these candidates campaign for votes throughout the Clan's territories, hoping to convince their fellow Rilemi that they are the right person for the job. Theoretically. In practice, most candidates concentrate on the Mountainhome and its surrounding settlements as individuals living in these 'core territories' have twice the vote of other regions. Murder, blackmail and other usually criminal acts are well-known aspects of "Election Month", one which leaves many visitors amused or disgusted.

No matter how a Councilor attains their position, they still need power to do anything with it. Unlike other political entities, the Councilors lack any inherent authority. Rather, Councilors pick-and-choose which aspects of the Clan they wish to oversee. This often results in junior members getting the worst jobs like keeping an eye on the Seerstones and senior members enjoying the luxuries of mining ventures. Of course, this is not always the case. should an entire industry or group petition to be overseen by another member, the involved Councilors will have no choice but to agree to it. As such, Councilors must maintain good relations with their subordinates to retain any real power. The only exception to this is the Regent's absolute control over the Durazni, a fact that has irked many politicans throughout the centuries.

While the Councillors may bicker over many decisions, up to assassinating their opponents, none would dare defy a direct order from the Father of Ways. Despite all their fights over power and independence, all will serve Mavnon no matter what it is she asks for. His whims are of course, used by politicians as ammunition to throw at their rivals during debate. Take Mavnon's desire to wage war on the humans for example. Several Councilors had supported friendly ties  with the weaker tribes, hoping to win them over through economic and cultural superiority. More hawkish members had wanted to invade them and annex their lands into Clan territory. When Mavnon declared an invasion, the hawks spent the next few days lambasting their opponents for such impious words and that clearly as men who had previously spoken against the goddess, they were utterly wrong. As such, making use of the god's seldom-heard words is integral to ensuring political domination. With the coming of the High Church, this has only expanded with the words of the Aspects and Patronius.

Spoiler:  The Mavnonites (click to show/hide)

Before the conversion of Clan Rilem to the High Church, Rilem worshiped all gods, honouring Mavnon as their greatest deity. Rather than dedicating priests to her, Rilem worshiped her as a personal god who listened to all their pleas. If a worshiper wanted to offer a sacrifice, they would offer up a sacrifice at a personal shrine, or if the sacrifice was large enough, at a public altar.

While no priesthood existed this is not to say that the values of Mavnon were not espoused. Rather, the Clan taught his values through everyday wisdom and tradition. Storytellers would teach the youth parables and tales of Mavnon and her mysteries. Sacrifices and other religious customs were constantly taught by the Clan's government itself through a religious bureaucracy that ensured all members understood what Mavnon expected of them. As such, while they lacked an organised priesthood, the clan did ensure that Mavnon's beliefs were spread throughout the populace.

What very few Rilemi knew however was that Mavnon maintained a small number of 'Enlightened', dwarves who had proven themselves to be utterly loyal to Mavnon and yet wise enough to also believe in her goals. These dwarves, through their everyday activities, would spread the goals of Mavnon.

(More later.)

Found the Rilemi Codex

Also, info request if possible: what happened to the Adventurer's Guild and Orcs?

*Checks notes* The CRD and Dwarves are incapable of interbreeding, the differences are still there and still prominent (and are probably biologically hardwired), despite the attempts of "Civil Rights" activists

D:

EDIT: And being reincarnated doesn't mean they can't be revered elders; just look at the Dalai Lama. Heck, if I recall correctly, my immortal Illyria has her own little country on the Rilemi border.

[Happy Demon]

I think it was one time, I'm not sure where, where something like this happened.

GM: A group of people cause complications.
Player: I kill them.

Even though it's like finding needles in a haystack.

But it was so long ago, I don't even remember in which RP it happened (I may even have forgot some details).
But I'm pretty sure there was a time a god entered a fight, and as the first action, dropped rocks on the important dudes (not high profile targets, it's more like targeting those with a certain mindset).

But I'm just whining. Disregard what I said.

[Demonic Spoon]

the Asteroids spell out a certain God's name

Haha, the asteroid stars. One of my better ideas. I think I had plans to rework them into a ortillery system with portal magic at some point.

[Rolepgeek]

I'm curious as to how the Saplings, Great Trees, and fledgling Great Reefs/Polyps will have fared....I did make them somewhat dependent on their god, after all..

Ah well.

If the garden has withered in the absence of it's gardener, he may always plant anew...

[FArgHalfnr]

I wonder how large the Aag nation's technological advantage will be. On one hand it would make sense from a game balance perspective to limit it somewhat, but on the other hand my character and the nation have been built from the start in a way that would give them a massive advantage in this situation. Otherwise I'm mostly curious on how the relationship with the great tribe will be, on one hand it was more of a conflict between patronius and Lithus than a conflict between nations (although it went extremely close to become an open war at the end, and I don't remember if my peacemaking efforts were made on the last tick, which would retcon it), but on the other hand Frederick is still there and very loyal to his god's ideals. I wouldn't expect too much trouble with the CRD honestly, mostly because both nations didn't seem to have much contact outside of the failed cultural exchange, again most of the conflicts there were between gods and not nations.

So anyways, if the game does continue I think I'll change how my character plays. I'll probably make him less idealistic, as in he won't expect other gods to be good anymore, and stop being so bossy around them. I'm not sure whenever or not I'll continue with the isolationist tendencies I started near the end though.

[Rolepgeek]

Not quite, FArg. After all, technology spreads through osmosis, and your character wasn't exactly opposed to the spread of knowledge or progress. So while they might be leaders, the advantage won't be necessarily very large.

Nor is technology the only factor to consider.

[Stirk]

EDIT: And being reincarnated doesn't mean they can't be revered elders; just look at the Dalai Lama. Heck, if I recall correctly, my immortal Illyria has her own little country on the Rilemi border.

Of course, the Dalai Lama relies on religion to work. If the CRD's faith took a big hit, then they wouldn't believe they where elders at all.

I'm curious as to how the Saplings, Great Trees, and fledgling Great Reefs/Polyps will have fared....I did make them somewhat dependent on their god, after all..

Ah well.

If the garden has withered in the absence of it's gardener, he may always plant anew...

Stirk is too tired to right right now, but relying on the Great Trees/Whatever else greatly reduced their numbers (As they needed them to reproduce) and kept them held to a relatively small area.

I wonder how large the Aag nation's technological advantage will be. On one hand it would make sense from a game balance perspective to limit it somewhat, but on the other hand my character and the nation have been built from the start in a way that would give them a massive advantage in this situation. Otherwise I'm mostly curious on how the relationship with the great tribe will be, on one hand it was more of a conflict between patronius and Lithus than a conflict between nations (although it went extremely close to become an open war at the end, and I don't remember if my peacemaking efforts were made on the last tick, which would retcon it), but on the other hand Frederick is still there and very loyal to his god's ideals. I wouldn't expect too much trouble with the CRD honestly, mostly because both nations didn't seem to have much contact outside of the failed cultural exchange, again most of the conflicts there were between gods and not nations.

So anyways, if the game does continue I think I'll change how my character plays. I'll probably make him less idealistic, as in he won't expect other gods to be good anymore, and stop being so bossy around them. I'm not sure whenever or not I'll continue with the isolationist tendencies I started near the end though.

Not very big, in the end. Despite their God's attempts at making the progress-focused commie society, several social problems stopped it from reaching its full potential. Most of which started while Lithus/Luthus was still awake, for example the Crime in Aag nations is High. The Crime Lord turned out to be a immortal Auoror, one of the first Blessed Ones or whatever they where. This widened the Gap between Aurors and the Aag, bringing a sizable criminal base for centuries to come. Allegedly, the Great Tribe sponsors these criminals, with everything from funds to weapons, due to the major crime syndicates all being ran by Aurors in secret. Additionally, Mavnon worship is still outlawed, leading to Mavnon worshipers living in the nation by chance to be criminals by default, often slipping into greater crimes over time.

The most important reason they don't have a big advantage is the competition, who aren't at a big enough disadvantage to fall behind. All the major nations had factors that kept their technology on par with, above, or near the Aag, despite the Aag's general intelligence and focus on progress. Fredrich always had the Aurors helping his nation, who have a decent amount with focuses in Intelligence, Science, and Engineering. The Great Tribe's upward expansion had put them into contact with the Wriths, the mostly-forgotten Intelligent race who had centuries of their own technology created by that point and was eager to share/ally with the First Race who made contact with them in return for some planet-bound information to sate their curiosity, and continue to assist the Great Tribe to this day. The CRD continue to be allied with the Dwarves and the Great Tribe under the High Church. They have two skill-boosted immortals with artifacts granting them inventing abilities, unfettered access to the ritual stone, and a very good head start due to the Dwaf nations having a Higher technological base then the Aag at the end game (Due to several secret actions). Naturally, with three/four races making advancements, a good amount of technology finds its way into other Race's hands, limiting the Aag's advantage over them as well.

As for relationship between the Aag, Great Tribe, and CRD, it is varied much like it was in the game. They had several major wars between each other over the years, several decades of uneasy freedom, and several of guarded trade and peaceful contact. The ban on Mavnon worship still stands, putting great tension with the groups. You made it a conflict between nations by putting laws against the other God's down. In the end, Lithus/Luthus was pretty much the real leader of the nation, loosing him hurt the nation badly.