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[Andres]

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[gman8181]

Andres, on another note, I'd appreciate it if you'd stop that as well. I honestly would rather not know your secret actions because it ruins the fun of the game for me. I haven't yet looked at your "private messages" but I have almost accidentally clicked on them multiple times simply because my first instinct upon seeing a spoiler is to click the spoiler .

It's kinda rough.

Thanks for keeping it in. If Stirk says to not do it anymore, I'll stop. If he's still ok with it, I'll think about it. Honestly, it seems to me like you're just a bit lacking in self-control but considering other people might've had the same problem, it might not be worth having them around.

Not so much lack of self control as opposed to habit. Self control to me implies that I can't help but click on the spoilers because of how much I want to click on the spoilers. In actuality, it's just that I'm completely unaccustomed to people posting public spoilers that they don't want other people to be able to read. Out of habit, I always click the spoilers because most of the time they're meant to be read by anyone willing to read them and I enjoy reading what people have to say.

Anyway... not telling you what to do or anything. Just saying it's something people might end up reading even if unintentionally.

[Vgray]

Right. Staying out of the argument, do you mind that I read your last few spoilers that only say GM only not GM/Pantheon only?

[Andres]

Andres, on another note, I'd appreciate it if you'd stop that as well. I honestly would rather not know your secret actions because it ruins the fun of the game for me. I haven't yet looked at your "private messages" but I have almost accidentally clicked on them multiple times simply because my first instinct upon seeing a spoiler is to click the spoiler .

It's kinda rough.

Thanks for keeping it in. If Stirk says to not do it anymore, I'll stop. If he's still ok with it, I'll think about it. Honestly, it seems to me like you're just a bit lacking in self-control but considering other people might've had the same problem, it might not be worth having them around.

Not so much lack of self control as opposed to habit. Self control to me implies that I can't help but click on the spoilers because of how much I want to click on the spoilers. In actuality, it's just that I'm completely unaccustomed to people posting public spoilers that they don't want other people to be able to read. Out of habit, I always click the spoilers because most of the time they're meant to be read by anyone willing to read them and I enjoy reading what people have to say.

Anyway... not telling you what to do or anything. Just saying it's something people might end up reading even if unintentionally.

Ah, fair enough. Well, some exceptions aside I think I'll trust in the good-hearted nature of people to close the spoilers after seeing what they accidentally/mistakenly opened before they can get a good look. Assuming that Stirk continues to allow them, of course.

Right. Staying out of the argument, do you mind that I read your last few spoilers that only say GM only not GM/Pantheon only?

I would mind, actually. Your god can ask mine if he's that curious (no promise mine will reveal) but unless it's got the pantheon seal, I'm going to ask that you don't open them.

[Vgray]

Alright.

You can probably guess that Uztot doesn't want to know all the details...

[Andres]

It's nothing unethical. My god decided not to open it to the pantheon only because it didn't concern them, not because she wanted it to be hidden from them.

[gman8181]

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Gotta train them to fight young.

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On a more serious note, probably won't be doing too much until I find out how much essence I have.

[Rolepgeek]

The biggest problem here is that you read the up until now secret actions without asking Stirk first. You just went and did it anyway because you felt that that's what the rule should be, despite no one saying any such thing.

Well, really, I read the most recent one. And by read, I mean I skimmed it. It didn't concern me so I didn't bother reading it further.

I think we're basically having a loose construction versus strict construction argument here. To you, it's allowed because nothing specifically disallows it. To me, it's not protected because nothing specifically protects it. We're both sorta right. We're both sorta wrong.

[Andres]

The precedence of the results of those GM Only actions being secretly given to me via PM tells me that it's protected. If it weren't, all the results would've been made public. I don't believe that we're both right and wrong in our own ways, I believe that I'm just right and you're just wrong.

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((GM only actions will be resolved Via PM.))

[DreamerGhost]

And I believe that you are just being silly for being angry at one guy who admited to reading one post and doing jack all with that. The only reason why puting stufc in spoilers may not be read is because people do not have time to read it. Honestly, do you realy think that people who would actualy use the info would inform you that your method is as secure as lea ing your door unopened and hanging "please rob me" sign above it?

[Stirk]

........................Oy vey

New Kingdom seems to contain Saplings, and some Sapling Land on the Frontier, but no actual Greet Trees yet. They are marching towards them.

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Modifying Great Magic for:
Telekinesis: 3-4E
Summoning: 1-3E
Shadow Grasping: 3-4E (Discount included)

Go ahead and ask.

So I'm assuming the dwarves have never written down their knowledge of metalcrafting?

Presumably. They still don't really have much to write on, and it is easier to keep secret without writing it down.

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Nightmare preventing chitin moon: Depends on mechanism.
Immortal Citin Balls: 9-11E
Telekinesis: 4-5E (Discount included)
Ant Rate Up: 7-8E (Will lower Worship Quality significantly)
All Beta Ants: 3-5E
Double All Ant Lifespans: 4-6E
Warding Magic: 4-5E (Discount included)

Stirk, the Writhes would survive fine in the Divine Library right? Or would they need to be adapted to survive in non-space environments?

Theoretically, they can survive in the Divine Library the same as the other races.

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Power Progress: As many as you want to spend. Higher amount equals greater effect. Very high chance of Silly and/or Horrible consequences if abused. May or may not have already been done.

Did the anti-divine enchatment of crowns do anything when crownbearers were teleported into Dungeon?

I can't answer that, or questions like that. Sorry, but that would give you a hint at the mechanism that was used.

That suggestion game I checked interest for is out: Prophet of Cim

Plug acknowledged. Do you think it will be dead by the time I get the next OOC post?

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PRICECHECK:
Pricecheck on a race of sapient spiders, sized like dogs, who are able to weave more space into small locations (1m+ per day). They are prone at weaving and can't see well during bright sunlight. They have a diet of fungi and meat.

Already done, but I think you missed it.

Although it's secret, not sacred, Stirk. Though they both fit.

I paraphrased the whole thing. The real lyrics where "
Well I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?"

Which would make no sense. Apparently I was close enough for everyone to get it, which was the real goal.

I didn't know which part of that line was the reference. Apparently it was all a reference. I now know that references are allowed....

......If this goes wrong, I start shooting.

I don't recall, but we can't cancel actions once they've been publicly countered right?

You may cancel an action at any time before I process it, for any reason. Publicly countered actions have already been pulled multiple times.

Stirk, clarification request, are the dwarves just too incompetent to do group casting? Because I meant for group casting to be possible. I might have to use some essence to fix that if group casting isn't possible currently.

It is currently possible, and does well when not used to often. The problem is trying to use a Strong magic for literally everything. It is just that if a single dwarf has 10 "points" of life/memories to use (Not actual mechanics, just here for description), and ten dwarves work together, they still only have about a 100 points between them. It doesn't do much to prevent them from all burning out.

Cim made a thing.

Cim is a fictional character  .

I was wondering if I could have my priests perform Artistic rituals on medallions. The rituals would make the medallions holy to me (thus strengthening their souls), increasing the power of Divine Art (when using my spheres), and allowing me to tap into their souls. Said soul-tapping will be limited to letting me use Art without divine energy by using the souls of the medallion-wearers. I can only draw until the wearer is at 20% progress to soul-burnout, at which point I stop being able to do so until it's less than 20% again.
Knowledge of Art and the relevant disciplines would be necessary to create these medallions, but otherwise it's possibly that any god could make similar ones.

Would creating the above system be free, all things considered, or would I have to spend Essence on creating the system?

Maybe. I won't stop you from trying.

Hey Stirk, maybe you should institute a player cap now. Maybe have it be the current player count?

Capz r 4 n00bz.

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Vault of Quintessence: 4-5E
Vault of Bliss: 4-5E
Vault of Mire: 4-5E

You get a group discount if you make more then one, performing all three at once would only cost 6-7E at once.

Vault of Rectification: 5-6E

Total group: 7-8E

Hey, what are the rules for referencing outside works and leaning on/breaking the fourth wall? I've got a few ideas that would go further in those two things than what I've done so far, but KJP would never have allowed them in the original YG.

Case by case. Dream God could probably get away with it, as long as it isn't too much. If you want to run the general idea behind me, that is fine.

Demonic Spoon: Thanks for the lists! I had put them in the OP as soon as I saw them.

Did you know there's a modified sand cotton in the world? It grows really well in wounds.
It would be a shame if the battlefield got some of those seeds in them.

Most of the fighting was done with Power-Born. Aside from that, the fighting took place far away from a desert where Sand-cotton would be found.

Does using Art decrease the energy cost of me doing stuff?

You have never successfully performed Art so far.

Except that I explicitly specified that sacrifices can be used to power portal magic?  Why shouldn't I assume its possible to use sacrifices, since that's how I designed it?

I more meant don't expect its power to be the same. We will probably see some impressive, unrepeatable magic use that you should not assume the average user can do in the same way.

At this rate my posts are going to be bigger than the tick updates.

Mine are getting bigger too  .

So Stirk, am I receiving any Influence from all the Conflicts in the game or is it still too little?

You are receiving Influence from everything from traders arguing over price to all the war. The Conflict is getting you a great amount of Influence, enough for Essence.

I don't remember seeing stirk ever mentioning that anything is on a different fragment from another one, so I kinda assumed everyone is on the same one. We really should give them a name at some point. I might be completely wrong, though.

Most races and Kingdoms are on different Fragments. The Great Tribe is large enough to have cities on every Fragment.

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Copreal Demension: Hmmm....Didn't we do this already? ()

Big stick that gets bigger: () (Such a high-tech and strange weapon requires IC research to even know if it is possible.)
Bigger Stick that Becomes Biggest: Vetoed for being OP.

Bony Eaters: 5E (Assuming Default) for 10K.

!!!!IMPORTANT NOTE!!!!
Generally, if someone doesn't specify anything, it becomes "Default". For example, since I didn't get any information on the Dwarves or Orcs, they are Default Races. Default races are basically human-level at everything mechanically, simply having different appearance, culture, etc. Skills, intelligence, lifespan, and such are all human-level. If you just say "I wanna make an elf!", then I have no clue what an "Elf" is, it could mean anything from "Those things Santa has" to "The LoTR guys" to "Those original Fokelore Fae", so I just say "Whatever. Its Default in my book."

Inventing chains: Free for the God of Binding.
Elves: 5E for 10k (Default)

Forcing all Humans to get Canabalistic urges: (? ? ?) (Depends on things like the amount of Humans)

Ohh, goody, it's that day I ignore my douchebag dad like every single other day. Regardless of cultural obligations to interact with him on this specific day.

Ain't you fun on holidays~. While we are sharing, my Mom was out of town so we did most of the stuff for Father's day earlier. My family went shooting, a hobby I always shared with my dad. He brought out my Great-Grandfathers M1 that he used in WWII and we fired a few round from it. He talked about how he had inherited it, and how I would inherit it one day the same way he did, and everyone had a good time.

Isn't Father's Day in November? At least in my calendar it is. Also grumble grumble celebration borne of commercialism not tradition grumble grumble.

By the way, price checks use the three dollar signs because that way the GM can just throw them into the search bar and read all new ones at once. Using different currency symbols defeats the point, really.

Proud Capitalist don't care about what caused holidays! Anyway, there is like five countries where it is in November. In the USA, it was yesterday. I mostly look for my own, so I don't care in particular what they did as long as I can see it when I am doing OOC.

Familiars: Can't be done for free, can be added in for a handful of essence.

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I don't know what you want in an Angel Andres! Like I said, we don't have a template, which means I don't even have a Default to do when you don't explain things. If you want to just say "Make an Angel with X boost", I have to at least know what an Angel is without that boost. The blood thing would be an ability that could be added, but would not be free.

What does holy taste like?

Wine-covered bread.

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Metal: 1-2E (Discounts included). You still need to teach them how to actually use it, this would only create the metal in the ground.

GM only: 5E for 10K, assuming it only calls.

Andekrama: 10-11E
Non-God blocking Andekrama: 7-8E (Not 100% perfect)

Awakening Great Beasts with power (? ? ?) (Might have horrible/silly consequences even if it doesn't work.)
Whelps: Did I already price check these? If not, what are they?

GM Only fight: Oy vey II
Generally, while I appreciate the effort in reducing the amount of effort I have to put out, it still has much of the same problems that Icy's attempt had and keeps most of the problems of having to do PM's anyway. I have been treating them as PMs the best I could anyway. I think I would prefer you go back to PMs, since this seems to be more trouble then its worth.

Calling Toady on this is a bit silly  .

Since I didn't have any rules for it, and if he *really* wanted to he could have read it without saying anything like everyone else did, it really isn't appropriate to punish him for it. There isn't much I can do anyway, not that would be appropriate for "Reading his GM only things", unless you want me to give you his PMs to make it fair  .

Andres...reported a post for cheating... -.-

Isn't that a decision for the GM to make? You know, kick someone out of a game instead of a moderator coming along, "Oh, you cheated in a ROLEPLAYING GAME! HOW DARE YOU?"

Yes, I am fully capable of reigning in my own players without taking time away from poor Toady. Isn't it bad enough I have to take my own time for it? The most he would do is lock this for you guys all fighting over it.

Nope but they did just come into existence last tick. And they also happen to have every technology the dwarves ever had as well. So ya know, nothing to worry about.

The CRDs have, at least...

Ooh popcorn. Do I get Influence for this?

You don't need the encouragement.

On a more serious note, probably won't be doing too much until I find out how much essence I have.

I will try to get Income later today. I will probably get next tick tomorrow, this OOc took forever.

[Andres]

You have never successfully performed Art so far.

Science beckons!

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Copreal Demension: Hmmm....Didn't we do this already? ()

Neither 'corporeal dimension' nor 'corporeal dimensions' in the search bar turned up anything. We did planets, stars, and incorporeal dimensions to my knowledge.

Forcing all Humans to get Canabalistic urges: (? ? ?) (Depends on things like the amount of Humans)

I believe he meant all current Humans. We don't exactly have knowledge of their numbers so we can't ask for a price check concerning them all by using absolute numbers.

I don't know what you want in an Angel Andres! Like I said, we don't have a template, which means I don't even have a Default to do when you don't explain things. If you want to just say "Make an Angel with X boost", I have to at least know what an Angel is without that boost. The blood thing would be an ability that could be added, but would not be free.

Ah, I thought we'd decided to use the Ye Gods template for here (you price checked one at 4E for this game). For future reference, the template I'll always use when discussing them is the Ye Gods template.
So can the angel I made be how I wanted it to be like? I won't ask for retcons but I did already put the Essence into it.

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GM only: 5E for 10K, assuming it only calls.

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Price check if it grabs and consumes
Price check if it siren sings and consumes

Since I didn't have any rules for it, and if he *really* wanted to he could have read it without saying anything like everyone else did, it really isn't appropriate to punish him for it. There isn't much I can do anyway, not that would be appropriate for "Reading his GM only things", unless you want me to give you his PMs to make it fair  .

The only thing I'll ask for is that the GM and GM/Pantheon Only stuff I've made up until now remain secret by GM say-so.

Yes, I am fully capable of reigning in my own players without taking time away from poor Toady. Isn't it bad enough I have to take my own time for it? The most he would do is lock this for you guys all fighting over it.

Considering it was two guys out of twenty players and the issue's been resolved, I doubt Toady would lock the thread.

I will try to get Income later today. I will probably get next tick tomorrow, this OOc took forever.

How long did the OOC take, for curiosity's sake?

[FArgHalfnr]

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Do I get a discount on actions that improve a species like I did earlier from my progress aspect?

[Stirk]

Ah, I thought we'd decided to use the Ye Gods template for here (you price checked one at 4E for this game). For future reference, the template I'll always use when discussing them is the Ye Gods template.
So can the angel I made be how I wanted it to be like? I won't ask for retcons but I did already put the Essence into it.

I specifically said that creations from Ye God where BANNED, , which goes double for the Angel Template. The price (Which was 4-7E) was simply to give Lemonpie the general idea what his Angel would be, NOT to actually be made.

[Andres]

Damn, I didn't think the Ye Gods ban carried over into angels, considering you gave a price check for the template and Humans+Dwarves were allowed. Ok, I'm gonna make a fresh template and see how much it costs. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what made up the Ye Gods template in the first place. Their powers were always kinda vague to me.