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[crazyabe]

The big question is, What would be the effect of me showing up while the rest of the gods are absent? or are you going to have me show up after everything has happened?

[Stirk]

The big question is, What would be the effect of me showing up while the rest of the gods are absent? or are you going to have me show up after everything has happened?

The effect would be you being born frozen in time and unable to do anything like the rest of everyone. It would be exactly the same, and you would show up after everything has happened anyway.

**EDIT**

If you just want it to be decoration is fine. It could take centuries for a god to form, after all. I just can't let you do anything during that time, since it would be giving you free reign of the world.

[micelus]

@Stirk True but surely they must have noticed the fact that the person claiming to be a servant of a god keeps appearing behind a throne after he/she dies or when a 12 year old child suddenly becomes a natural engineer with oddly accurate recounts of the past. But this is mostly theoretical and I'm completely fine with them not being respected elders.

[Stirk]

@Stirk True but surely they must have noticed the fact that the person claiming to be a servant of a god keeps appearing behind a throne after he/she dies or when a 12 year old child suddenly becomes a natural engineer with oddly accurate recounts of the past. But this is mostly theoretical and I'm completely fine with them not being respected elders.

Yeah, those kind of things really make it hard to be an atheist in this world in the first place  . They are probably respected leaders among a good part of the population. Especially since (...as I just recently remembered) Mavnon was in a Pantheon with the rest of the High Church. Fredrich would spend a lot of effort trying to keep CRD's religion with them, and they would be respected in Great Tribe lands even if they don't believe in the Gods. I-letters still leads her nation, performing experiments as ordered long ago.

[Rolepgeek]

I'm curious as to how the Saplings, Great Trees, and fledgling Great Reefs/Polyps will have fared....I did make them somewhat dependent on their god, after all..

Ah well.

If the garden has withered in the absence of it's gardener, he may always plant anew...

Stirk is too tired to right right now, but relying on the Great Trees/Whatever else greatly reduced their numbers (As they needed them to reproduce) and kept them held to a relatively small area.

More or less what I figured, though I didn't expect the Great Trees to have ended up putting as much of a damper on their numbers as it seems to have(either within the game before the Sleep, or during), with how large they were and the fact that they continued to grow, and food not being much of an issue for them to have plenty of (reproduction capacity, for any life, is rarely the limiting factor in population for long(though I suppose this could be an exception circumstance)). Disease would still do it, I guess, though I'm less certain how mobile plants would fare with disease and the like. Particularly when some of them are massive and rather potent magically.

I'm guessing those limitations would be a driving factor in whatever they did.

Though I must say I would/do find it funny that the 'cities' for the Saplings would be where the population poured from, rather than drained into, in the industrial age.

[Stirk]

I'm curious as to how the Saplings, Great Trees, and fledgling Great Reefs/Polyps will have fared....I did make them somewhat dependent on their god, after all..

Ah well.

If the garden has withered in the absence of it's gardener, he may always plant anew...

Stirk is too tired to right right now, but relying on the Great Trees/Whatever else greatly reduced their numbers (As they needed them to reproduce) and kept them held to a relatively small area.

More or less what I figured, though I didn't expect the Great Trees to have ended up putting as much of a damper on their numbers as it seems to have(either within the game before the Sleep, or during), with how large they were and the fact that they continued to grow, and food not being much of an issue for them to have plenty of (reproduction capacity, for any life, is rarely the limiting factor in population for long(though I suppose this could be an exception circumstance)). Disease would still do it, I guess, though I'm less certain how mobile plants would fare with disease and the like. Particularly when some of them are massive and rather potent magically.

I'm guessing those limitations would be a driving factor in whatever they did.

Though I must say I would/do find it funny that the 'cities' for the Saplings would be where the population poured from, rather than drained into, in the industrial age.

We are assuming Modern conditions, so food and what not isn't much of a dampening factor for most of history. Continual growth doesn't mean fast growth, and you functionally have only a handful of individuals capable of breeding. Basically, the number of womb-flowers is very limited, compared to the millions of people who fill a modern nation. For example, in 2010 America had 4million newborns. I can't remember for certain how many trees there where, but that would mean each tree must produce 400,000 each year if there where ten of them. I have been assuming Saplings have the standard 9-month gestation period most Mortal races have, meaning that each flower can only really produce one Sapling a year. Additionally, the Saplings never needed to have a large amount of children for any industrial/agricultural work, and must support any children they have by themselves, most have few (if any) children. And they have to live near the trees, or go on a pilgrimage to one, in order to do that. And if we want to get super-technical, the trees are supposed to take centuries to mature, so many of them would have difficulties bearing children.

Now that we got over the general difficulties of Sapling breading, there is the fact that every other race can grow their population more easily. The Great Trees have a limited number of wombs that grows very slowly, while the number capable of producing children in a standard race essentially grows exponentially. A thousand Saplings can create another thousand saplings just as easy as a standard race can create another thousand of themselves, but a million Saplings can't make another million saplings as easy as a million standard races can. Then once the numbers of the other races get into the billions, they are completely outmatched in every way. Remember, I am basing this off of the modern world of 7 billion Humans. And this world doesn't have any problems getting food early on, has many time's our Earth's amount of land, and is generally wealthy. Its not that there is half-a-dozen Saplings being born each year, its that the numbers of everyone else eclipse what a small-and-constant amount of breeding females can do.

Currently, there are no magics that are capable of fighting off disease. Most are fairly limited in scope at the moment.

[Rolepgeek]

I mostly meant I don't see the Great Trees falling victim to the Flu.

I see the problems with it, I suppose I'd just hoped that the sheer size of the trees, their growth(though slow), and their longer lifespan would help alleviate that.

I do suppose that 'help alleviate' and 'fix entirely' are not the same thing by any means, though. I did sorta suspect that they might find a way to produce more Great Trees, though, probably magically, or at least try to, though that would basically be replicating the power of a god infused into them, and the Great Trees themselves would probably dislike the idea on various grounds.

I foresee Teburshe trying to fix this problem of minimal population with a very simple and hopefully effective means.

So very many Great Trees.

Polyps I don't know if I ever really mentioned their death cycles, though it's a bit late now. Polyp orpses were supposed to help add to the size of the Reef, by making a pilgrimage of sorts in their later years, settling into it, and 'dying' like the Saplings did, sorta. Their numbers will probably still be pretty damn small, though, with only two Reefs (though did imagine the reefs being utterly massive, even sorta compared to the Great Trees, but that was partially the life cycle thing). I'll be interested to see their technological development, being aquatic and all.

[FallacyofUrist]

The first thing Gai-gen is going to do once he wakes up:

Spoiler: Feel free to read: (click to show/hide)

Experiment with Stasis energy.

If he wakes up.

It may be worth noting that Sankis is older than many of the gods.

[~Neri]

Lets call Nilva's demigod "Kirani."

[Stirk]

Lets call Nilva's demigod "Kirani."

Note taken.

[Happy Demon]

Lets call Nilva's demigod "Kirani."

I get the feeling that name means something.

[Andres]

Ok, just read what happened with the new Human nation that Iliseth founded and Art. Honestly, it seems kinda weird to me.

The new Human nation was founded near-explicitly as a way for there to be a Human nation devout to Iliseth and not controlled by Mavnon-Patronius. If anything, they would've allied with the Saplings (who allowed them to settle in some of their uninhabited land) and the Aag considering the divine relations between their gods.

As for Art, I can definitely see Iliseth's kingdom (and its Sapling/Aag allies) becoming advanced in its use but not so for the Great Tribe. Frederick was distrustful of Art and kicked out the angel who was teaching it when it started telling people about Iliseth's new nation.

[Hiddenleafguy]

I'm back, did anyone make a grand entrance yet, if not, I think I'm gonna switch to a more.... relatable form.

[TheBiggerFish]

I'm back, did anyone make a grand entrance yet, if not, I think I'm gonna switch to a more.... relatable form.

The game is still dead is it not?

[Stirk]

I'm back, did anyone make a grand entrance yet, if not, I think I'm gonna switch to a more.... relatable form.

The game is still dead is it not?

That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.