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[delphonso]

Nice, Hanslanda! Tell us what you did?

Did you run an premade adventure or did you make your own?

[Hanslanda]

It was a pre-campaign test session to get the group backstory and feel for play down, so I set a basic framework down then just improv-ed wildly.

Highlights included:
-They brutally murdered terrified bandits, then made friends with a posse of hobgoblins.
-Met with a contact that they'd been guided to by the (they don't know it yet) BBEG, immediately subverted them, and accidentally got them executed by a corrupt nobleman.
-Frustrated said noble to no end trying to renegotiate their contract before they even received it.
-Took another contract to murder a merchant and did so rather well.
-Accidentally pissed off an Archmage Gnome while he was spying on his girlfriend in bird form, and stole his hat.
-Shit talked the Level 20 Fighter BBEG with Fast Healing 30 in the middle of a market crawling with his assassins, paid off guards, and invisible magical backup. He still offered them magical items to subvert a noble.
-Despite all this they are still playing directly into my trap and haven't managed to derail my plot plan. I'm going to have them framed (very little framing actually, the evil little shits are digging a deep enough hole) and either captured and sent to Not-Australia or they'll be forced to flee... To Not-Australia.

[pikachu17]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gUcx45ryT0
I just found this, haven't watched yet.
Thought you guys might like it, or might like lampooning it.

[pikachu17]

I noticed something interesting that happens if you use RAW with Heat Metal.
It only affects creatures in contact with the metal, so someone wearing clothing under all their armor is completely unaffected by the spell, and their clothing is unaffected as well.
But if the targeted armor wearer grapples with someone, that creature will take the damage if they are in contact with the armor at all.

Also, what precisely is unmanufactured metal? The spell doesn't target that.

EDIT:Additional thought. What is the maximum size of something you can target with the spell? Would an entire metal castle count?

[Sirus]

I'd assume that's raw ore, fresh from the mines or the pans and not yet smelted or formed.

[GiglameshDespair]

I noticed something interesting that happens if you use RAW with Heat Metal.
It only affects creatures in contact with the metal, so someone wearing clothing under all their armor is completely unaffected by the spell, and their clothing is unaffected as well.
But if the targeted armor wearer grapples with someone, that creature will take the damage if they are in contact with the armor at all.

Also, what precisely is unmanufactured metal? The spell doesn't target that.

EDIT:Additional thought. What is the maximum size of something you can target with the spell? Would an entire metal castle count?

You could try arguing that, but that'd be stupid, since almost no armour has metal in direct contact with skin anyway - they'll all have layers of padding beneath them, and indeed almost all of them describe armour as splint/maille/whatever on leather, or cloth. Wearing clothing beneath doesn't mean you're not in contact with the object, which is what matters, and to argue someone isn't in contact with armour they're wearing is... well, absurd. It's be like saying Heat Metal shouldn't work on a sword, because the handle is wrapped in leather.

An unmanufactured metal object... plenty of metals can be found in their pure form naturally. Gold nuggets, for instance. Metal meteorites.

A castle would not be an object.

For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone, not a building or a vehicle that is composed of many other objects.

No size limit is assigned to Heat Metal, so you might be able to heat one of the walls if your GM is feeling generous.

[pikachu17]

I suppose it makes sense in a Dnd context, since touch spells can be cast while wearing full armor, but what exactly is physical contact then?

[Persus13]

I suppose it makes sense in a Dnd context, since touch spells can be cast while wearing full armor, but what exactly is physical contact then?

Presumably its a blanket term for holding, wearing, or touching the object in question.

[MrRoboto75]

A castle would not be an object.

So, I can't heat metal the entire city of Dis?

[scourge728]

The definition of object is: a material thing that can be seen and touched, which is actually pretty unhelpful for fantasy or sci-fi because then something invisible ceases to be an object, but still, under that definition, a castle counts as an object, a city counts as an object, basically anything made of metal counts as a metal object, it's a really poor definition, but it's the one Google gives me so eh.

[scriver]

but a thing is an social constructile meeting between parts to air grievances and work out disagreements

[IcyTea31]

So, I can't heat metal the entire city of Dis?

I don't think that would change a lot, considering where Dis is and who lives there...

[pikachu17]

Someone already cast Heat Metal on Dis's entire plane of existence.

[GiglameshDespair]

The definition of object is: a material thing that can be seen and touched, which is actually pretty unhelpful for fantasy or sci-fi because then something invisible ceases to be an object, but still, under that definition, a castle counts as an object, a city counts as an object, basically anything made of metal counts as a metal object, it's a really poor definition, but it's the one Google gives me so eh.

The definition given by the game, however, is specific in saying a building is not an object but a collection of discrete objects like doors, walls, windows, etc.

When characters need to saw through ropes, shatter a window, or smash a vampire's coffin, the only hard and fast rule is this: given enough time and the right tools, characters can destroy any destructible object.

Use common sense when determining a character's success at damaging an object. Can a fighter cut through a section of a stone wall with a sword? No, the sword is likely to break before the wall does.

For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone, not a building or a vehicle that is composed of many other objects.

but a thing is an social constructile meeting between parts to air grievances and work out disagreements

No, a thing is an ancient alien found in antartica that destroys a research station

[Cruxador]

Speaking of which, how much damage do you need to put out to be an effective siege weapon?