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[BlackFlyme]

Pathfinder announced Ultimate Wilderness, a new Core book. Will feature a new class: the Shifter. People have been begging for a Wildshaping character other than the Druid for a long time, and it seems they'll finally get it.

Apparently they also revealed at least two other Core books some time ago, also supposed to come out this year. Seems like a lot of Core this year.

The only Core book I've been paying attention to is Bestiary 6.

[Jimmy]

I'm just waiting for them to finally clarify what interaction traps have with Perception (1 check per 10 ft. square or 1 check per line of sight).

[wierd]

Fair compromise:

Is perception augmented unnaturally, (magical supersenses, etc.) or is it natural senses?

If natural senses, line of sight.
If augmented unnaturally/clairvoyant, square foot radius.

Pulled from my ass of course.

[Neonivek]

I'm just waiting for them to finally clarify what interaction traps have with Perception (1 check per 10 ft. square or 1 check per line of sight).

If I remember correctly traps above a certain threshold automatically defeat perception and can only be found with search rolls.

So basically there is NO interaction between traps and perception.

[wierd]

Doesnt that defeat the purpose of clairvoyance? EG, you can see it without your damned eyeballs-- it would need to be hidden magically to defeat, no?

[Neonivek]

Doesnt that defeat the purpose of clairvoyance? EG, you can see it without your damned eyeballs-- it would need to be hidden magically to defeat, no?

Clairvoyance isn't exactly a spell used to spot traps... but there is no reason you cannot use search with Clairvoyance.

Clairvoyance specifically is a spell that lets you look at an area even if you are not there. It is "defeated" by anything that defeats normal perception.

As well you cannot use magical or supernatural senses through Clairvoyance. So if something was invisible it would be invisible even if you had true sight.

[Jimmy]

The trouble is Pathfinder rolled Search and Spot and Listen skills into one big Perception skill ball, so you use the same skill to search for traps as you do to determine things you spot with the naked eye.

There's a huge table variation because of this, with some using 3.5e rules for a full round action per 5 ft. square, some using one check per 10 ft. cube, and some using one check and applying distance modifiers for the penalty up to line of sight.

[Sirus]

Speaking of Pathfinder releases, apparently PF Spelljammer came out a little while back.

[Jimmy]

http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9vk5

Looks like Paizo finally answered the damned FAQ! They've officially come out to state that searching for traps using Perception searches a 10 ft. square at maximum.

I'll be sad if this turns out to be an April Fools joke.

[Neonivek]

The trouble is Pathfinder rolled Search and Spot and Listen skills into one big Perception skill ball, so you use the same skill to search for traps as you do to determine things you spot with the naked eye.

There's a huge table variation because of this, with some using 3.5e rules for a full round action per 5 ft. square, some using one check per 10 ft. cube, and some using one check and applying distance modifiers for the penalty up to line of sight.

Sorry the terminology REALLY confused me >_< mostly because there is also passive perception and active perception and searching.

[scriver]

Speaking of Pathfinder releases, apparently PF Spelljammer came out a little while back.

That Starfinder thing?

[Sirus]

Speaking of Pathfinder releases, apparently PF Spelljammer came out a little while back.

That Starfinder thing?

They're calling it Starjammer, after the D&D version I guess. Basically fantasy shenanigans IN SPACE.

[Harry Baldman]

They're calling it Starjammer, after the D&D version I guess. Basically fantasy shenanigans IN SPACE.

That's the thing that the PFSRD people put out, isn't it? Paizo's own Starfinder comes out a bit later IIRC.

[Gentlefish]

the Shifter.

HNNNNNNNG

Oh my god i can't wait until November. The shifter from 3.5 was my favorite prestige class and now it might be a base class!?

I'm too hype.

[Neonivek]

I've been thinking of creating a sort of monster collection pen and paper RPG

But as I was thinking about it more and more I kind of realized how antagonistic that format is to actual roleplaying.

Dragon Ball RPG was an easier concept to get off the ground because at least I could externalize a lot of the things people have issues with and then simplify the rest.

Yet it just doesn't work that way with monster collection... even with my alternate idea that instead people create up to three monsters and stick with them.

I either have to think of a clever solution to this issue or think of something else.

I mean I GUESS I could... do... what The Last Remnant did... and instead monsters fight all at once as a group.

Goodness a Last Remnant game would be awesome with people being generals... and their skills and equipment in many ways are their extra party members.