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[BlackFlyme]

Pathfinder Monk's bonus feats are kind of limited, I think. It's archetypes are generally better with the changes they make to the feats, though.

[Jimmy]

Eh, in my book the choice between straight monk vs. archetype is kind of like the choice between a turd burger or a shit sandwich.

[highmax28]

Eh, in my book the choice between straight monk vs. archetype is kind of like the choice between a turd burger or a shit sandwich.

Monk is one of the best classes if you know what you're doing. There's a fighting style feat for them that allows them to counter attack before the opponent gets a hit in, and it's kinda broken...

Last nights session involved my Longtooth shifter barbarian, who was raging and had just took a swing of a giant strength potion, charging a door so hard that he busted a dwarf's arm because he planted his shield and forgot that the door could move, picking up said dwarf while he was prone, throwing him 60ft into the air as I roll a double crit (rage gives advantage to all strength checks) and threw him into another dwarf who was on a tower 45ft up, hitting said dwarf in tower and knocking them both off the tower and killing both.

He then continued his rampage as he sees two dwarves standing over his unconcious allies' body and one of them plants his shield in the ground, and I just move to an opening, picked up said dwarf and used him as a bludgeoning weapon against the dwarves' leader, who was a huge dwarf woman named Orta who was also a barbarian. The impact knocked her unconcious and because I was so strong, I caused his arm to be left behind with the shield he planted into the ground.

I got my buddy back up, and we healed the armless dwarf, who was still in shock he was missing an arm.

Because we knew Orta was strong and we didn't have any chains and only rope, we had to strip her of her belongings (knives, weapons, etc), hog tie her up to the point that my DM made a joke about her being ready for bondage sex, and the Druid starts to dig a hole using mould earth, which took a long time, but he then threw Orta into the hole but kept her head up and buried her up to her neck. and my buddy who tied her up decided that when we stripped her of her belongings, she was naked...

As you can see, this is starting to sound terrible. So she wakes up after we loot the place and, because she's a barbarian, she starts screaming like a madman while shouting curses like Yosammitisam (or however you spell his name (the redhead in loony tunes)). I then started to shout at her to shut up, but she didn't listen, and then the party rogue shows up and starts screaming, sounding like Orta, just to join in on the screaming match.

After about 20 minutes of shouting, she finally shuts up, and we try to question her. Sadly, we couldn't get any information out of her and she started making comments about skinning my character, so because we needed to move her, we proceeded to mic k her in the head over and over until she was unconcious, which took a long time as my DM said.

We moved her and buried her inside the building (dirt floor) and covered her mouth as we took a long rest, and then finally the dwarf wth one arm realizes he lost his arm (shock is over) and he starts crying, where the party Druid starts to pat his head and go "shhhhhh.... It's ok... It gets better..." And the way he said it made my DM drop everything, look at us and go "you're a party of psychopaths..."

After some chatter and house ruling, we decided greater restoration restores one limb at a time and he cast it using his magical gear to cause the dwarf to get his arm back.

In short: I threw a dwarf, beat another with another dwarf, buried a dwarf leader, tore a guy's arm off, and the party Druid, the fighter, and my barbarian are called psychopaths by our DM

[Jimmy]

Spoiler: Nobody tosses a dwarf! (click to show/hide)

[highmax28]

Spoiler: Nobody tosses a dwarf! (click to show/hide)

I am proud to be associated with this now

[TheBiggerFish]

@highmax:Yosemite Sam.  Like the place.

[TheBiggerFish]

Doing my part for linking good shit.

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/paizo-pathfinder-bundle

Like 15 dollars for a LOT of pathfinder stuff. A dollar something more if you want the other teir too. The pathfinder core book by itself is worth more than the total cost of this.

[My Name is Immaterial]

Is there anything in the books, besides the adventures, that you can't get online?

[TheBiggerFish]

I have no idea.

[Jimmy]

Since they're only giving away PDF files, it's little use to me. I prefer having the physical rulebook at the table, since I try to encourage avoiding too much technology use while gaming. Having people playing with their phones or browsing the net is poor manners.

[highmax28]

Since they're only giving away PDF files, it's little use to me. I prefer having the physical rulebook at the table, since I try to encourage avoiding too much technology use while gaming. Having people playing with their phones or browsing the net is poor manners.

I agree on this. Plus, when you have to clear up some shit with specific party members (aka buying shit, selling shit, downtime stuff, etc.) it gives the players something to do that still pertains to the game by looking through it, rather than having your laptops open or whatever.

I still prefer to have physical everything, but due to how often my party levels up, and my kineticist's many abilities, its hard to have a physical sheet playing pathfinder sometimes

[BlackFlyme]

I basically have entire charts on the back of my character sheet so I don't have to go looking through books each time we level.

It helps to plan out your entire leveling progression as well. Makes it easier to go over everything at once without relying on memory, and changes can be made as needed, so long as you haven't reached the changed level yet.

[highmax28]

I basically have entire charts on the back of my character sheet so I don't have to go looking through books each time we level.

It helps to plan out your entire leveling progression as well. Makes it easier to go over everything at once without relying on memory, and changes can be made as needed, so long as you haven't reached the changed level yet.

The problem I have with that is Pathfinder, to me, is difficult to do that with because there are SO many abilities to look at. Like the barbarian for example, has rage powers, which prevents me from playing it because there's just so many... Fighter is a similar deal too. There is just so much happening with everyone, I don't evne know where to begin. Throw on top of that the effects of spells and other stuff and you've lost me.

I'm not even joking, it took me a week to make a level 2 wizard, and three weeks to make a level 13 wizard, and he's not even done yet

[BlackFlyme]

It helps a bit when the DM limits what is allowed and what is not. Not my preferred way of narrowing choices, mind you.

When I first make a character, they are usually planned out completely from one to twenty. Or less if the adventure doesn't go that far.

That said, feats are a pain in the ass if your build doesn't need many feats. A Kineticist is pretty much done by level three, when they get Point-Blank Shot and Precise Shot. Or just Weapon Finesse, for a Kinetic Blade user.

[highmax28]

Are they able to use those feats? And I grabbed weapon focus (kinetic blast) as well as toughness (which is mandatory) and improved init since I'm artillery. Because of how stupidly high my init can go when I go into elemental overflow, I tend to just destroy something in the first round.

Except this bullshit encounter I'm stuck in. I can't use my abilities when I'm on a friendly ship because it douses fire instantly... So I gotta hang out on the enemy ship and set everything on fire (which apparently included my rule's lawyer's face)