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[NullForceOmega]

nullBolt, please be calm, this thread is for discussion of player and DM experience.  Every table is different, and some groups really, really, like powergaming to the nth degree.  While I personally don't approve of that, I do expect their perspective to be respected in this thread.

[nullBolt]

nullBolt, please be calm, this thread is for discussion of player and DM experience.  Every table is different, and some groups really, really, like powergaming to the nth degree.  While I personally don't approve of that, I do expect their perspective to be respected in this thread.

Their viewpoints are respected. I even, in a small way, understand where they're coming from. If their groups are happy with it, then that's their choice.

The issue is that they are misunderstanding the points that people are making in this thread, either wilfully or not. Not even my points, but those of others.

[Criptfeind]

Honestly you seem to be doing the most misunderstanding. He's not said, or even implied, that his group has an issue with his playstyle, you (and others) keep seem to automatically assume it and then start berating him for no reason.

[nullBolt]

Honestly you seem to be doing the most misunderstanding. He's not said, or even implied, that his group has an issue with his playstyle, you (and others) keep seem to automatically assume it and then start berating him for no reason.

I have actually asked him if his group's happy with it.

He avoids the question.

[Criptfeind]

Please.  . It's not "avoiding the question" if the dude didn't happen to respond to you. And even then, frankly your posts to Jimmy are some of the most arrogant and insulting things I've ever actually seen on bay12. I'm surprised he's respond to you the amount he has.

[nullBolt]

Please.  . It's not "avoiding the question" if the dude didn't happen to respond to you. And even then, frankly your posts to Jimmy are some of the most arrogant and insulting things I've ever actually seen on bay12. I'm surprised he's respond to you the amount he has.

When he answers everything else, it certainly is.

You're welcome to your views.

[Criptfeind]

He's answered nothing else. He's literally not posted on the forum since before you asked the question of him. Your standards are ridiculous.

He's not even logged on since you asked.

Edit: Well, got a bit. Uh. Boldy there. But, that aside. Really, go reread all your posts where you say you don't think he should be playing a game because you think his fun is wrong and then seriously say that type of thing actually deserves a response.

[nullBolt]

He's answered nothing else. He's literally not posted on the forum since before you asked the question of him. Your standards are ridiculous.

He's not even logged on since you asked.

I actually asked a few pages back if his group was enjoying it.

[Criptfeind]

You had a great time, but did the rest of the party?

As far as I can tell this is the first time you've actually made any effort to understand his groups expectations instead of just arrogantly assuming they are the same as your own and implying he should quit D&D for not playing to your standards.

[nullBolt]

You had a great time, but did the rest of the party?

As far as I can tell this is the first time you've actually made any effort to understand his groups expectations instead of just arrogantly assuming they are the same as your own and implying he should quit D&D for not playing to your standards.

Fucking weird, I could swear I asked a few pages back.

Looked through my posts though and apparently not. I concede that.

It may have been after he was saying that his group was very unoptimised:

Sadly my party is completely incapable of dealing any significant damage to the beast, with a Rogue/Shadowdancer, Oread Monk and a Rogue/Fighter being the remaining members of the party. They'd have to roll 15 or higher to hit this thing's AC, and even then they'd die from more than two melee hits from it.

I made some responses suggesting that if his group isn't into it, then he should tone it down.

[NullForceOmega]

Right.  Cool down time.

Edit for reopening:  No arguments please.

[Neonivek]

So as you all know I've been making monsters for 5th for fun (and to use later)

One thing I haven't been able to get a handle on how much damage anything should do...

Does anyone have advice?

I do have some concept of AC though
-6: Near motionless
-8: Slow
-10: defenseless
-11: Leather
-12: Thick Leather (leather armor or Aligator skin)
-13: Solid Wood
-14: Supertough leather, Lightly metal armored
-15: Stone
-16: Armored
-17: Solid Stone
-18: Plate or Metal Skinned (or equivalent)
-20: Solid Steel

[Gentlefish]

Doesn't size dictate damage? Like slam and bite attacks are 1d6 for medium creatures and Claws and tailslaps are 1d4's? There's a table for scaling size somewhere

[SOLDIER First]

Why are all of those AC values negative?

[Neonivek]

Doesn't size dictate damage? Like slam and bite attacks are 1d6 for medium creatures and Claws and tailslaps are 1d4's? There's a table for scaling size somewhere

In a manner of speaking.

Medium: 1 Dice
Large: 3 Dice
Huge: 3-4 dice
Gargantuan: 4+

Now of course, there are exceptions based on how powerful it is. Storm giants are Huge creatures (boardering on Gargantuan) that deal 6 dice of damage.

But damage is more about impact then anything...