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[Vacio]

Gravewalker witch will be using necromancy just fyi.

[andrea]

Here is a character sheet I made for a character. Cavalier, heavily armored, optimized for mounted combat. Bad rolls on HP sadly ( what is the average on a d10 by the way? 5 or 6? I assumed 5)
I have a couple of questions and problems however. First,  I can't quite find a banner item for the use of my ability (besides ultra expensive woundrous items). can I just assume it is, I don't know, painted/attached on my armor and call it a day?or a banner held by a small pole on my mount.
Second: I wanted to take ouflank instead of precise  strike for my tactician feat.But I get the feat early and can only take outflank at 4th level. Is it fair to assume I left the feat slot empty until 4th level, or should I stick with precise strike?
Also: I generated the character using PCgen. When generating the horse, it told me to pick 'companion level increase choice' which allowed me to take +2 DEx and CON but I have no idea of what that is, and I haven't found information on the online pathfinder srd. ny idea? should I just scrap that?
Fourth: Anything I missed/messed up?
Later I'll try to get a better sheet (mythweaver maybe?) and a backstory.

Spoiler: Cavalier (click to show/hide)

Name:       Lambert Bruerer
Race:       Human
Player:     Andrea
Classes:    Cavalier5
Hit Points: 42
Experience: 15000 / 23000
Alignment:  Lawful Neutral
Vision:     
Speed:      Walk 20 ft.
Languages:  Common, Elven
Stat    Score   Mod
STR  20 (+5)
DEX  12 (+1)
CON  14 (+2)
INT  12 (+1)
WIS  11 (+0)
CHA  12 (+1)
-------------------------- Skills --------------------------
Skill                   Total   Rnk     Stat    Msc
Acrobatics                -4    0.0       1     -5
Appraise                   1  0.0  1  0
Bluff                      6  2.0  1  3
Climb                      4  1.0  5  -2
Diplomacy                  6  2.0  1  3
Disguise                   1  0.0  1  0
Escape Artist             -4  0.0  1  -5
Fly                       -4  0.0  1  -5
Handle Animal              9  5.0  1  3
Heal                       0  0.0  0  0
Intimidate                 7  3.0  1  3
Knowledge (Nobility)       8  4.0  1  3
Knowledge (Religion)       6  2.0  1  3
Perception                 0  0.0  0  0
Ride                    5(10) 5.0  1  -1
Sense Motive               7  4.0  0  3
Stealth                   -4  0.0  1  -5
Survival                   0  0.0  0  0
Swim                       5  2.0  5  -2
-------------------------- Feats ---------------------------
Mounted Combat
  You are adept at guiding your mount through combat.
  Once per round when your mount is hit in combat, you may attempt a Ride check (as an immediate action) to
  negate the hit. The hit is negated if your Ride check result is greater than the opponent's attack roll.

Power Attack
  You can make exceptionally deadly melee attacks by sacrificing accuracy for strength.
You can choose to take a -2 penalty on all melee attack rolls and combat maneuver checks to gain a +4 bonus on all melee damage rolls. This bonus to damage is increased by half (+50%) if you are making an attack with a two-handed weapon, a one handed weapon using two hands, or a primary natural weapon that adds 1-1/2 times your Strength modifier on damage rolls. This bonus to damage is halved (-50%) if you are making an attack with an off-hand weapon or secondary natural weapon. You must choose to use this feat before making an attack roll, and its effects last until your next turn. The bonus damage does not apply to touch attacks or effects that do not deal hit point damage.
 
Precise Strike
  You are skilled at striking where it counts, as long as an ally distracts your foe.
Whenever you and an ally who also has this feat are flanking the same the creature, you deal an additional 1d6 points of precision damage with each successful melee attack. This bonus damage stacks with other sources of precision damage, such as sneak attack. This bonus damage is not multiplied on a critical hit.

 
Ride-By Attack
  While mounted, you can move, strike at a foe, and then continue moving.
When you are mounted and use the charge action, you may move and attack as if with a standard charge and then move again (continuing the straight line of the charge). Your total movement for the round can't exceed double your mounted speed. You and your mount do not provoke an attack of opportunity from the opponent that you attack.
 
Spirited Charge
When mounted and using the charge action, you deal double damage with a melee weapon (or triple damage with a lance).


-------------------------- Combat --------------------------
    Total / Touch / Flat Footed

  AC: 21 /   12  /   20

Initiative:   +1
BAB:          +5
Melee tohit:  +10
Ranged tohit: +6

Fortitude:    +6
Reflex:       +2
Will:         +3

Unarmed attack:
to hit:       +10
damage:       1d3+5
critical:     20/x2

Lance +1:
to hit:       +7
damage:       1d8+6
critical:     20/x3
special properties: One Handed when mounted, Two Handed otherwise.

Masterwork Falchion:
to hit:       +11
damage:       2d4+7
critical:     18-20/x2
 
------------------------- Equipment ------------------------
Name                                            QTY   LBS
Lance +1  1   10lbs   Special: One Handed when mounted, Two Handed otherwise.
Belt of Giant Strength +2  1   1lbs
Full Plate +1  1   50lbs
Outfit (Traveler's)  1   5lbs
Waterskin (Filled)  1   4lbs
Masterwork Falchion  1   8lbs
Potion of Shield of Faith +2  1   0lbs   Special: +2 deflection bonus to AC for 1 minutes
Potion of Cure Moderate Wounds  1   0lbs   Special: Cures 2d8+3 points of damage
Potion of Bull's Strength  1   0lbs   Special: +4 enhancement bonus to Strength for 3 minutes
Tent (Medium)  1   30lbs
Rope (Hemp/50 ft)  1   10lbs
Backpack (23 lbs.)
   Candle  6   0lbs   Special: Increases light level (5') for 1 hr.
   Flint and Steel  1   0lbs
   Grappling Hook  1   4lbs
   Lantern (Hooded)  1   2lbs   Special: Bright illumination (30'), shadowy illumination (60'), 6 hr./pint
   Manacles (Medium)  2   4lbs
   Oil (1 Pint Flask)  5   5lbs
   Bedroll  1   5lbs
   Whetstone  1   1lbs
   Whistle (Signal)  1   0lbs
   Potion of Hide from Undead  1   0lbs   Special: Target cannot be perceived by undead for 10 minutes
   Potion of Cure Light Wounds  2   0lbs   Special: Cures 1d8+1 points of damage
Total weight carried: 111 lbs.
Current load:         Light
Encumbrance
Light:  133   
Medium: 266   
Heavy:  400

Spoiler: Mount (click to show/hide)

Name:       Bucephalus
Race:       Companion Horse
Player:     Andrea
Classes:    Animal5
Hit Points: 44
Experience: 0 / 23000
Alignment:  None
Vision:     Low-Light Vision
Speed:      Walk 50 ft.
Languages: 
Stat    Score   Mod
STR  18 (+4)
DEX  16 (+3)
CON  17 (+3)
INT  2 (-4)
WIS  12 (+1)
CHA  6 (-2)
-------------------------- Skills --------------------------
Skill                   Total   Rnk     Stat    Msc
Acrobatics                7  1.0  3  3
Climb                     8  1.0  4  3
Escape Artist             3  0.0  3  0
Fly                       1  0.0  3  -2
Intimidate               -2  0.0  -2  0
Perception                6  2.0  1  3
Stealth                  -1  0.0  3  -4
Survival                  1  0.0  1  0
Swim                      8  1.0  4  3
       
-------------------------- Feats ---------------------------
Combat Reflexes

Endurance

Power Attack
-------------------- Special Abilities ---------------------

------------------------ Templates -------------------------

-------------------------- Combat --------------------------
    Total / Touch / Flat Footed
AC: 18 / 12 / 15

Initiative:   +3
BAB:          +3

Melee tohit:  +6
Ranged tohit: +5

Fortitude:    +7
Reflex:       +7
Will:         +2

Unarmed attack:
to hit:       +2
damage:       1d4+4
critical:     20/x2

Bite:
to hit:       +6
damage:       1d8+4
critical:     20/x2

Hoof:
to hit:       +1/+1
damage:       1d6+2
critical:     20/x2
--------------------- Special Abilities --------------------
 
------------------------- Equipment ------------------------
Name                                            QTY   LBS
Total weight carried: 0 lbs.
Current load:         Light
Encumbrance
Light:  300   
Medium: 600   
Heavy:  900
--------------------------- Magic --------------------------

     
     
------------------------ Description -----------------------
Height: 0' 0" Weight: 0 lbs. Gender: Maschio   
Eyes:    Hair: , Skin:
Dominant Hand: Destro Quirks: ,    
Speech style:  Quotable:
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[Neonivek]

1) The Average on a d10 is 5.5... So 10 + 5.5 + 5.5 + 5.5 +5.5 + 10 (for con) = 42... Ohh and +5 for favored class bonus... so 47

2) The rules actually aren't clear on this. There is nothing stopping you from actually doing this or retraining at a later time (other then expense)

3) I found it!

"Instead of taking the listed benefit at 4th or 7th level, you can instead choose to increase the companion's Dexterity and Constitution by 2."

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid/animal-companions#TOC-Horse

4) So far the only thing I got is: The horses Hit Dice is 37 not 44 (He just gets average dice, and doesn't get the benefit from maximized first level dice)... ignoring that you need to remake the horse... slightly (You added an extra +2 to the horses dex)

Also why your Lance is only a +7 is beyond me.

I am rolling a cavalier, order of the sword. Neonivek, feel free to veto this if you think there isn't going to be much if any chance of mounted combat. My second choice would be either a necromancer ( was thinking sorcerer with only necromancy school spells, but maybe stewards only like divine necromancy?) or a druid.

There isn't much I can actually do to outright prevent you from using a horse or charging. A Pit trap maybe, a small crawl space, maybe shrinking the horse.

There are bigger issues with the Cavalier

Namely... the 39 damage average on any charge.

Meaning in order to keep the game a challenge I'd have to... Pull out all the stops and actually treat you like a threat. Since you are far and above more dangerous then the rest of the party combined.

[SOLDIER First]

[Neonivek]

Yeah I forgot to add power attack.

Now he can use the lance two handed... so... I'll also eliminate precise strike (which I wouldn't think is multiplied anyhow)

54 damage average

Sorry still made a mistake... 60 damage average... 69 on a precise strike.

On a +14 or a +18 with Outflank

[Vacio]

1) The Average on a d10 is 5.5... So 10 + 5.5 + 5.5 + 5.5 +5.5 + 10 (for con) = 42... Ohh and +5 for favored class bonus... so 47

2) The rules actually aren't clear on this. There is nothing stopping you from actually doing this or retraining at a later time (other then expense)

3) I found it!

"Instead of taking the listed benefit at 4th or 7th level, you can instead choose to increase the companion's Dexterity and Constitution by 2."

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid/animal-companions#TOC-Horse

4) So far the only thing I got is: The horses Hit Dice is 37 not 44 (He just gets average dice, and doesn't get the benefit from maximized first level dice)... ignoring that you need to remake the horse... slightly (You added an extra +2 to the horses dex)

Also why your Lance is only a +7 is beyond me.

I am rolling a cavalier, order of the sword. Neonivek, feel free to veto this if you think there isn't going to be much if any chance of mounted combat. My second choice would be either a necromancer ( was thinking sorcerer with only necromancy school spells, but maybe stewards only like divine necromancy?) or a druid.

There isn't much I can actually do to outright prevent you from using a horse or charging. A Pit trap maybe, a small crawl space, maybe shrinking the horse.

There are bigger issues with the Cavalier

Namely... the 39 damage average on any charge.

Meaning in order to keep the game a challenge I'd have to... Pull out all the stops and actually treat you like a threat. Since you are far and above more dangerous then the rest of the party combined.

If the horse shrinks I'll enlarge it again!

[Neonivek]

I am not sure if I want this Cavalier in the game. If only because it would transform the game into a really bad game of horse tag.

But I have a feeling the players want the insane high damage Horse person xD

[SOLDIER First]

He takes the bounties back to the bounty holders, man. Gotta have transport.
Unless they're kill bounties...

[Neonivek]

Ok look I am sorry but...

I can't allow the Spirited Charge or the Lance.

You can keep the Cavalier but... that combination...

[andrea]

Ah, thanks for the reply neonivek.

1) actually, I rolled an 8 for the last level, but on the other hand I put 4 of my favored class bonuses on improving my banner ability ( extra +1)

2)well, rules don't forbid it. More specifically hwever I wanted to know if you, as GM, would be ok with it.

3)Thanks! it was driving me mad. My horse is much strong now. fear his bite, enemies!

4)I'll take a look at the horse again. there is something screwy going on with stats ( I added the bonus to dex rather than Str, so dex is fine.. except an extra pint from somewhere? and I am not sure where all strength bonus comes from. I think there is an extra +1 on dex and an extra +1 on STR.)

5) well spotted on the lance. that is not the normal attack. It should be +11. I'll update.

as far as me being a threat... take that, people thinking martial classes are useless!
As for making me less deadly, buildings with hallways will go a long way negating ride-by attack, meaning I can only charge once. Assuming the building is big enough to ride inside which is in no way a given.

But if you think it is a balance problem I can switch in the interest of a good game.

Edit: That is fair. Spirited charge is a very powerful feat and removing that will bring me back to a more reasonable power level.
edit 2: in fact, that feat is the best part of the cavalier's 20th level ability.
edit 3: silly me, the extra STR/DEX is simply from being a companion.
edit 4: well, I guess I could keep the feat and swap the lance with something else... but honestly the broken part isn't the lance, and charging with a lance has a certain charm that a spear or sword charge lacks.
edit 5: or did you mean I must drop both? I will do it, but lance  on its own isn't that bad, except on a critical. but it doesn't have much threat range.

[Neonivek]

2) Yeah I am ok with it.

As for charge here is kind of the thing. I'd have to kind of REALLY gun for you. Like enemies using the Brace feature, attacks on your horse, pit traps, snares, mind control. I'd have to design rooms entirely around making that horse as useless as possible at all times to stop you from instantly killing encounters (you can actually kill every CR 5 monster)

I am all for trying a session to see if it can be done while keeping the game fun. I am up for the challenge.

But it all depends what you think is fun.

[andrea]

Well, a practice session could help deciding if the character is viable.

The brace feature is honestly something that should see more use. Breaking charges is a good part of the utility of spears.
as far as designing rooms goes... "the ceiling is too low to ride inside" should work well without contrived design ( unless you need big rooms, I have no idea of the planned locations). Honestly, when designing the character I already had in mind that I would end up spending a lot of time not riding.

[Neonivek]

We could do a mini session right now... if you want

[andrea]

sure... although I haven't yet made all the changes to the horse and character HP, but they are fairly minor.

[SOLDIER First]

Oh, pfft. I've been spelling Kauko's name wrong.