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Author Topic: Beginner's Mafia LV: Masked Trouble - Scum Victory  (Read 49151 times)

H4zardZ1

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Re: Beginner's Mafia LV: Masked Trouble - D1: Locker Room (9/9)
« Reply #195 on: July 15, 2015, 12:48:37 am »

Ahh. I am back from sleep. Timezones.
Hazard, who's opening IC post did you like the most?
NQT: Yours.
So, a question for Everyone, what experience have you had with (forum or otherwise) Mafia before now?
Graklnole: I've played Supernatural 8 as a temporary player. Well, too bad since i re-ask for replacement.
True enough. I am town.
Next reason: this repetition annoys(drives crazy(oh)) people. Their continued emotional reactions will eventually end in the truth of their statements. Eventually something will slip.
FallacyofUrist: That's true. You could just ask questions questions questions without voting, you know right?
4maskwolf, if you had time for a history recounting post, I imagine(I could be wrong) that a small bit of scum hunting could have gone on. Welp.
Now... blast it, I'm town, and I don't want to appear passive, but asking for who to lynch or something is scummy...
... I'm not voting.
Also: Why are you FOSing someone who are scumhunting, Fallacyofurist?
On the one hand, would a scummy thug dare to be so brazen in their attempt to frame some poor patsy that they'd risk drawing the ire of the fighting luchadores?
On the other hand, a scummy thug that would dare to sully the honourable sport of wrestling would do just that. I can't think of something to ask you that has not yet been asked.
Hiddenlefguy, what was that edit about? And who is the old man who told you something in that strange hut?
FallacyofUrist, the way you tried to convince people to vote for notquitethere - to 'get him talking' as you put it; this Luchadore believes that to be a sneaky way to try and trick good Luchadores into lynching someone you know something about.
Indeed, you first wished to get people to lynch notquitethere just to apply pressure for answers, yet later wished to have people lnych notquitethere - despite in that time notquitethere not quite being there, or you detailing any possible new discoveries which would have justified switching suspicion for affirmation.

Your constant repetition that you are town, that you are law-abiding Luchadore; the old wise wrestlers of yore didn't need to hold up placards saying they were wrestlers. They just were.
Loud Whispers: I agree with hiddenleafguy shouldn't edit the post and Fallacy's repetition, but voting someone is a great way to pressurize someone. What do you disagree with, "I am town" repetition, voting persistence or both?
Everyone: Ask everyone. Random vote one.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LV: Masked Trouble - D1: Locker Room (9/9)
« Reply #196 on: July 15, 2015, 01:10:09 am »

Graknorke, if you could have swapped out one vanilla townie position in this game for a specialized role, which would it be?
Well I don't know what townie roles we have, so it would depend. Unless you meant something else.

Fallacy, if you're trying to pull some stupid stunt right now, just stop. If you're scum then your attempts at refuge in audacity aren't working, and if you're town then all it's doing is confusing and irritating the other players.
Really, it looks to me like you're trying to look like scum. And it's really getting on my nerves.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LV: Masked Trouble - D1: Locker Room (9/9)
« Reply #197 on: July 15, 2015, 05:30:41 am »

Urist McCoder: In your own words, explain the concept of WIFOM and its applicability to mafia games.
As far as I understand WIFOM it is any post that leads me or someone else to think in a circular way that leads nowhere, or any post that outright has useless circular logic. As for WIFOM applicability to mafia. It causes us to waste both time and energy, because the only thing it leads to is uncertainty and confusion.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LV: Masked Trouble - D1: Locker Room (9/9)
« Reply #198 on: July 15, 2015, 06:38:17 am »

Unvote
Vote FallacyofUrist

Too afraid that the question mark at the end will render it useless. Anyways, i voted you because of insane 'i am town' (it's no more WIFOM) repetition and moreover FOSing someone who encourages scumhunting.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LV: Masked Trouble - D1: Locker Room (9/9)
« Reply #199 on: July 15, 2015, 07:46:18 am »

everyone
1.who do you think is being helpful?
2.who do you think is being unhelpful?
3.If you had to lynch someone right now who would you lynch?
4.if you were a doctor who would you save?
5.who do you think is playing well?
6.who do you think is playing poorly?

My answers
1.graknorke, because he is one of the few people who seems to actually be scum hunting
2.fallacyofurist, because he is causing tons of confusion.
3.fallacyofurist, because I feel like he is not add almost anything except for confusion.
4.4maskwolf, because we really need the scum hunting experience (assuming he is not scum.)
5.pretty much everyone.
6.fallacyofurist and maybe hiddenleafguy.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LV: Masked Trouble - D1: Locker Room (9/9)
« Reply #200 on: July 15, 2015, 08:39:38 am »

everyone
1.who do you think is being helpful?
2.who do you think is being unhelpful?
3.If you had to lynch someone right now who would you lynch?
4.if you were a doctor who would you save?
5.who do you think is playing well?
6.who do you think is playing poorly?

1.me because i'm so great notquitethere, he's done very long posts asking questions and responding to what's happened with very long (and therefore high-content) answers.
2. Well Fallacy is being anti-helpful, but hiddenleafguy has been probably the most apathetic (I get it's because he's posting from phone though)
3. My vote is cast, and there's pretty much no way I could make any other vote look genuine at this point
4. Both of the ICs have a decent chance of being targeted, and also are a valuable asset in scumhunting. And since I have experience with just how good 4mask can be at putting on the pressure, I'd probably go with him.
5. That's entirely the same thing as being helpful
6. Fallacy's "I'm town" gambit is really dumb. So so so so dumb.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LV: Masked Trouble - D1: Locker Room (9/9)
« Reply #201 on: July 15, 2015, 08:43:40 am »

PFP so I will not be able to view the question, I will not be answering the question in one post.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LV: Masked Trouble - D1: Locker Room (9/9)
« Reply #202 on: July 15, 2015, 10:17:01 am »

everyone
1.who do you think is being helpful?
2.who do you think is being unhelpful?
3.If you had to lynch someone right now who would you lynch?
4.if you were a doctor who would you save?
5.who do you think is playing well?
6.who do you think is playing poorly?
1. 4maskwolf and Graknorke. I'd say 4maskwolf is more helpful than NQT.
2. Fallacy. He had insane repetition and FOSing someone who scumhunting.
3. I'm voting Fallacy.
4. I don't know who to save right now.
5. Graknorke and 4maskwolf, again.
6. Fallacy and Hiddenleafguy, through the latter is justified a lot more.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LV: Masked Trouble - D1: Locker Room (9/9)
« Reply #203 on: July 15, 2015, 10:20:23 am »

Forgot to tell that i will go PF Tablet tommorow. And sleep. I'm going to get a vacation again.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LV: Masked Trouble - D1: Locker Room (9/9)
« Reply #204 on: July 15, 2015, 10:56:29 am »

Alrightyo, what'd you cats get up to last night?

FallacyOfUrist: PLAY. THE. GAME. Don't sit around afraid to vote because you might get it wrong or appear scummy: those things will make you LOSE if you worry about them.  That's right.  LOSE.  You get your butt into gear, find something you think is scummy, and pursue it.

Urist McCoder:
everyone
1.who do you think is being helpful?
2.who do you think is being unhelpful?
3.If you had to lynch someone right now who would you lynch?
4.if you were a doctor who would you save?
5.who do you think is playing well?
6.who do you think is playing poorly?
1. Graknorke.  Thank god for Graknorke, he's making my job easier.
2. Anyone who isn't scumhunting.
3. FallacyOfUrist, because he's NOT SCUMHUNTING.
4. Mmm... Dunno.
5 and 6 are similar to 1 and 2

Alright, gimme a bit and I may make another post, I need to reread things.

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« Reply #205 on: July 15, 2015, 11:19:21 am »

HiddenLeafGuy, what do you think of Fallacy's play? Also if you're on mobile the way to vote is [ color = red ]name [ / color] but without the spaces.

Fallacy, of all the people voting you right now, who has the weakest arguments?

McCoder
1.who do you think is being helpful? - I like these sort of questions-to-everyone, but they're probably not that difficult for scum to deal with.
2.who do you think is being unhelpful? - Fallacy's play is drawing a lot of attention for himself
3.If you had to lynch someone right now who would you lynch? - Hiddenleafguy
4.if you were a doctor who would you save? - There is no doctor in this setting
5.who do you think is playing well? -  It's too early to say
6.who do you think is playing poorly? - Fallacy is drawing a lot of heat.

What do you intend to get out of the questionnaire?

Hazard
NQT: Yours.
That's very sweet of you. Mine had more jokes in it, certainly. Did either of us give any advice you found particularly useful/enlightening?

Also: Why are you FOSing someone who are scumhunting, Fallacyofurist?
This seems like a bit of a weak reason to bandwagon someone.

Everyone: Ask everyone. Random vote one.
Are you asking everyone to randomly vote here?

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Re: Beginner's Mafia LV: Masked Trouble - D1: Locker Room (9/9)
« Reply #206 on: July 15, 2015, 11:38:39 am »

Honestly I think Fallacy's play is for the most part, annoying and just makes people suspect him, and even if they don't they may lynch him for mucking up all his posts with "I am town" every post. Thanks for the BB code by the way.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LV: Masked Trouble - D1: Locker Room (9/9)
« Reply #207 on: July 15, 2015, 11:50:28 am »

While his posts may be distracting, are they genuinely scummy do you think? ((No problemo))
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LV: Masked Trouble - D1: Locker Room (9/9)
« Reply #208 on: July 15, 2015, 12:33:52 pm »

Graknorke, if you could have swapped out one vanilla townie position in this game for a specialized role, which would it be?
Well I don't know what townie roles we have, so it would depend. Unless you meant something else.
I mean, if you could take one plain, boring town role with no special abilities, and give it a specialized role like cop or doctor, what would you give it?
1.who do you think is being helpful?
2.who do you think is being unhelpful?
3.If you had to lynch someone right now who would you lynch?
4.if you were a doctor who would you save?
5.who do you think is playing well?
6.who do you think is playing poorly?
1. NQT, maybe? And yeah, Grak.
2. Fallacy isn't fooling anybody with "i am town, no lynch plz".
3. I still have my vote cast.
4. I have no idea.
5. Everybody except for...
6. HLG isn't really helping anybody, Fallacy either has no idea what he's doing, is scum and everybody knows it, or both, and you, Urist McCoder, were immediately swayed by an emotional appeal.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LV: Masked Trouble - D1: Locker Room (9/9)
« Reply #209 on: July 15, 2015, 01:11:12 pm »

Researcher are you referring to when I said that galaxy's defense seemed heartfelt and honest? At that point in time I had very little evidence against fallacy.
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