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[Master Catfish]

It's been several years since I've done any real altering in the RAWs, so I need to make sure this works.  I'm trying to make a type of metal that I can use for my fortresses if I can't find anything decent underground, so it's mostly from organic parts.  It's supposed to be a metal created by dark magic. 

The metal: (essentially just bronze with a new name and color)

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Folder name is inorganic_custom

[OBJECT:INORGANIC]

[INORGANIC:GLIMMER]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:METAL_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:glimmer]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:molten glimmer]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling glimmer]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:5:3:0]
[BUILD_COLOR:5:3:0]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:6]
[SPEC_HEAT:435]
[MELTING_POINT:11868]
[BOILING_POINT:14140]
[ITEMS_WEAPON][ITEMS_WEAPON_RANGED][ITEMS_AMMO][ITEMS_DIGGER][ITEMS_ARMOR]
[ITEMS_HARD]
[ITEMS_METAL]
[ITEMS_BARRED]
[ITEMS_SCALED]
[SOLID_DENSITY:8250]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:8020]
[MOLAR_MASS:80000]
[IMPACT_YIELD:602000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:843500]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:547]
[COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:602000]
[COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:843500]
[COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:547] no data, used 110
[TENSILE_YIELD:172000]
[TENSILE_FRACTURE:241000]
[TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:156] 110
[TORSION_YIELD:172000]
[TORSION_FRACTURE:241000]
[TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:156]
[SHEAR_YIELD:172000]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:241000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:156] no data, used 110
[BENDING_YIELD:172000]
[BENDING_FRACTURE:241000]
[BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:156]
[MAX_EDGE:10000]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:MAGENTA]

The reaction: (this is where I probably got things wrong)

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Folder name is reaction_custom

[OBJECT:REACTION]

[REACTION:GLIMMER_MAKING]
[NAME:make glimmer bars]
[BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]
[REAGENT:wax:150:GLOB:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[REACTION_CLASS:WAX]
[REAGENT:gem:1:SMALLGEM:NONE:UCT_DIMENSION:150]
[FUEL]NONE][REAGENT-tallow-150-GLOB-NONE-NONE-NONE][REACTION_CLASS-TALLOW][UNROTTEN][HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT-SOAP_MAT][PRODUCT-100-8-BAR-NO_SUBTYPE-METAL-GLIMMER][PROD
[SKILL:ALCHEMY]

I'd love to give anyone who uses or creates it a mild syndrome too, but I'm not sure how to do that. (A non lethal, long-lasting bleeding from the eyes and hands would be fantastic)

Help is much appreciated!

[Putnam]

"folder name is inorganic_custom"

it should just say "inorganic_custom" and shouldn't be in any folders

>UCT_DIMENSION

? What's that trying to do?

[FUEL]NONE][REAGENT-tallow-150-GLOB-NONE-NONE-NONE][REACTION_CLASS-TALLOW][UNROTTEN][HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT-SOAP_MAT][PRODUCT-100-8-BAR-NO_SUBTYPE-METAL-GLIMMER][PROD

...can you explain this to me?

I'm going to guess this is what you want:

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[REACTION:GLIMMER_MAKING]
[NAME:make glimmer bars]
[BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]
[REAGENT:wax:150:GLOB:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[REACTION_CLASS:WAX]
[REAGENT:gem:1:SMALLGEM:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[REAGENT:tallow:150:GLOB:NONE:NONE:NONE][UNROTTEN][HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:SOAP_MAT]
[PRODUCT:100:8:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:INORGANIC:GLIMMER][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
[FUEL]
[SKILL:ALCHEMY]

[Master Catfish]

...can you explain this to me?

No, I have no idea what happened there.  Probably a copy paste accident.  Looks like I didn't proofread what went into the code.  My apologies.  I meant 'file' when I said folder. 

And yes, that code looks like what I want.  What I have currently is actually this:

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[OBJECT:REACTION]

[REACTION:GLIMMER_MAKING]
[NAME:make glimmer bars]
[BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]
[REAGENT:wax:150:GLOB:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[REACTION_CLASS:WAX]
[REAGENT:gem:1:SMALLGEM:NONE:INORGANIC:NONE]
[REAGENT:tallow:150:GLOB:NONE:NONE:NONE][REACTION_CLASS:TALLOW][UNROTTEN]
[HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:SOAP_MAT]
[PRODUCT:100:8:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:GLIMMER][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
[FUEL]
[SKILL:ALCHEMY]

Is [REACTION_CLASS:TALLOW] going to cause problems, then?  I see that you don't have it in yours.  I copy-pasted what I saw in the soap reaction, which is why it went into mine. 

If I want to use uncut gems, can I use [REAGENT:gem:1:LARGEGEM:NONE:INORGANIC:NONE]?

[Putnam]

I'm not sure if there is a TALLOW reaction class, and the only GLOBs with SOAP_MAP are TALLOW anyway, so I figured it was either redundant or going to break it. If it's in the soap reaction, then use it. Uncut gems are ROUGH, not LARGEGEM.

[Master Catfish]

So, I tried the reaction in a game, and it didn't appear as an option at the smelter.  The metal was also not present in any of the items available for embark. 

I tried once with the separate files and once with the code put directly into the existing raws (reaction_smelter and inorganic_metal).  Same result in both cases.  I didn't bother to collect all the items necessary for it, though.  Is it possible that the reaction wouldn't appear until all of the reagents are available?

[Putnam]

You make sure to add it to the dwarf entity (MOUNTAIN in entity_default.txt)?

[Master Catfish]

I did not do that - thanks!  I'll check if it works.

Also, thanks for all the super helpful and rapid respsonses!

[Edit: It does appear to be showing up in the smelter menu now.  Also glimmer is now appearing as a material on my embark list.  Awesome!  Now I just need a syndrome.  I'll get to work on that!]

[Master Catfish]

For the syndrome, are these adjustments likely to work?

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[OBJECT:REACTION]

[REACTION:GLIMMER_MAKING]
[NAME:make glimmer bars]
[BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]
[REAGENT:wax:150:GLOB:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[REACTION_CLASS:WAX]
[REAGENT:gem:1:ROUGH:NONE:INORGANIC:NONE]
[REAGENT:tallow:150:GLOB:NONE:NONE:NONE][REACTION_CLASS:TALLOW][UNROTTEN]
[HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:SOAP_MAT]
[PRODUCT:100:6:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:GLIMMER][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
[PRODUCT:100:2:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:GLIMMERROT][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
[FUEL]
[SKILL:ALCHEMY]

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[OBJECT:INORGANIC]

[INORGANIC:GLIMMERROT]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:METAL_TEMPLATE]
   [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:glimmerrot]
   [STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:molten glimmerrot]
   [STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling glimmerrot]
   [DISPLAY_COLOR:0:7:1]
   [MATERIAL_VALUE:10]
   [SPEC_HEAT:450]
   [MELTING_POINT:10000]
   [BOILING_POINT:10001]
   [ITEMS_AMMO]
   [SOLID_DENSITY:7850]
   [LIQUID_DENSITY:6980]
   [MOLAR_MASS:55845]
   [IMPACT_YIELD:542500] Was 1080000, but just using 3.5x tensile multiples for everything until better numbers are available, which might not be likely
   [IMPACT_FRACTURE:1085000]
   [IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:319]
   [COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:542500]
   [COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:1085000]
   [COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:319] bulk modulus 170 GPa
   [TENSILE_YIELD:155000]
   [TENSILE_FRACTURE:310000]
   [TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:73] young's modulus 211 GPa
   [TORSION_YIELD:155000]
   [TORSION_FRACTURE:310000]
   [TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:189]
   [SHEAR_YIELD:155000]
   [SHEAR_FRACTURE:310000]
   [SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:189] shear modulus 82 GPa
   [BENDING_YIELD:155000]
   [BENDING_FRACTURE:310000]
   [BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:73]
   [MAX_EDGE:10000]
   [SYNDROME]
[SYN_NAME:glimmer dust]
[SYN_AFFECTED_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[SYN_INHALED][SYN_CONTACT][ENTERS_BLOOD]
[CE_BLEEDING:SEV:10:PROB:45:LOCALIZED:GRASP:RESISTABLE:START:1000:PEAK:2000:END:201600]
[CE_BLEEDING:SEV:10:PROB:45:LOCALIZED:SIGHT:RESISTABLE:START:1000:PEAK:2000:END:201600]
[CE_NECROSIS:SEV:30:PROB:3:LOCALIZED:SIGHT:RESISTABLE:START:500:PEAK:1500:END:5000]

My intention here is to give two chances for all of the syndromes to occur (2 bars of glimmerrot is made), to emulate a much wider variance of severity.  So there's a good chance eyes and hands will bleed, a lower chance that bleeding will be severe, and a small chance the eyes will rot (and a tiny chance they'll rot rapidly).

[Putnam]

LOCALIZED refers to "contact area", not to body part. What you want is BP:BY_TYPE:GRASP etc.

[Master Catfish]

Thank you!  I'll try it out soon and get back to you on how it worked.

On a side note...
I'm not 100% sure, but have you changed your avatar at least once between every time I posted?

[Putnam]

I don't change the avatar, I use a service to automatically switch them every time I refresh.

[Master Catfish]

A wizard indeed!

I did more testing, and the reaction/metal definitely work as intended, with the exception of the symptom.  Glimmer is made (now I just have to try to make it more balanced) and so is glimmerrot.  The latter instantly turns into steam, as intended.  However, it seems not to apply any symptom at all.  I'm not married to the specific effects, but I would like -something- to happen.  I wonder if...

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[SYN_INHALED][SYN_CONTACT][ENTERS_BLOOD] ...might be conflicting somehow?  Could it be that the contact area has to also be on the eyes or hand to have an effect?

[Putnam]

It's pretty much random whether or not it actually happens. You may want to remove ENTERS_BLOOD.

[Master Catfish]

For easier testing, I adjusted the syndrome to this:

[SYNDROME]
   [SYN_NAME:glimmer dust]
   [SYN_AFFECTED_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
   [SYN_INHALED][SYN_CONTACT]
   [CE_BLEEDING:SEV:10:PROB:45:BP:BY_TYPE:GRASP:RESISTABLE:START:1000:PEAK:2000:END:201600]
   [CE_BLEEDING:SEV:10:PROB:45:BP:BY_TYPE:SIGHT:RESISTABLE:START:1000:PEAK:2000:END:201600]
   [CE_NECROSIS:SEV:100:PROB:100:BP:BY_TYPE:SIGHT:ESISTABLE:START:10:PEAK:1500:END:5000]

No effect on the dwarves, unfortunately. 

[Putnam]

BP:BY_TYPE:GRASP:ALL. You need to include the tissues, too.

You may want to be checking errorlog.txt in your base folder.