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[Tiruin]

That's a very logical assumption, Cheeetar.  If only it was true.

I got fucking locked in my house last night by someone.

I snuck out to go drain the blood from TheDarkStar again, only to find that my door was locked.  I heard some sound of movement outside, and someone said "It's for your own protection."

Own protection my ass.  Someone is trying to frame me.  I trust you, Cheet, since you're pretty much confirmed, but Tiru... I have some doubts about Tiru's role, certainly.  Or it could have been TDS.

TheDarkStar

AHA, so you ARE scum!
_{And I totally barred your door with my shovel :v Because you're a Lone Vampire from under the non-touched graves.}
4maskwolf.

NQT's lynch was my idea you derp.  Who was the first one to vote him?  Me.

And I'm surprised you're taking a proven scum's word for what TDS is.

Err, no. We've been suspecting NQT since before you voted him--and the 'first to vote' doesn't count under that matter -.-
And you're making the error to jumping to defense again. Just like NQT did. @orange

...I seriously wonder why you didn't kill TDS though.
And I seriously wonder why NQT out'd TDS as the GA. Maybe for role points?

...Also given your claim there--you would rather really go out and vote me instead with the suspicion that I'm a Guard or whatever. Because UNLESS TDS is some sort of Archangel or something, the mention of no new roles (or as far as I understood Persus13's query) brings merit here.
And there has only been 1 Sort of entity from the Heavenly Host to be present in all Supernatural games [Citation needed, someone please check. Movie making is TUF.]

NQT's lynch was my idea you derp.  Who was the first one to vote him?  Me.

And I'm surprised you're taking a proven scum's word for what TDS is.

4maskwolf for reasons outlined yesterday.

Y u no speak more. :I

[Cheeetar]

I'm going for a shorten. It feels (despite my little neuroticisms and doubts) that the game was decided a few days back and we've just been finalising checkmate.

[Tiruin]

I'm going for a shorten. It feels (despite my little neuroticisms and doubts) that the game was decided a few days back and we've just been finalising checkmate.

Neurotic-buddies \o/
Shorten too.

4mask if you aren't scum, then I'll be blunt and bop your side. Be scum harder! :I [no offense or intent to sound patronizing, just silly in the least]

[4maskwolf]

I will not shorten, sorry I couldn't be on yesterday.  I did in fact get locked in my room, so I can only assume that TDS is a guard.

[Tiruin]

I will not shorten, sorry I couldn't be on yesterday.  I did in fact get locked in my room, so I can only assume that TDS is a guard.

Then who was Guardian Angel? :O

[4maskwolf]

*Sigh*

For the last time.

There was no Guardian Angel.  NQT and TDS cooked that up as a distraction, banking on the idea that because they were the primary killing group you wouldn't die and thus they wouldn't be proven liars.

Note that TDS has not addressed a SINGLE point I have made against him, just coasting along voting me while you sheep go along with him.

Extend.

[Tiruin]

*Sigh*

For the last time.

There was no Guardian Angel.  NQT and TDS cooked that up as a distraction, banking on the idea that because they were the primary killing group you wouldn't die and thus they wouldn't be proven liars.

Note that TDS has not addressed a SINGLE point I have made against him, just coasting along voting me while you sheep go along with him.

Extend.

So how come you didn't bring this point up with such ferocity in the first place?

Also, you're a blocker. Blocks go before Jail-type guards.
You also somewhat doubted MY role back there--but aren't backing that doubt up.

  Misdirection
    Role-blocking
    Protection
    Investigations
    Night Kills/Conversions
    Disturbing the Dead (there is an order for this, if two people target the same corpse, but that's kept hidden)

Must just be me though. Kinda awesome to have 2 cult guards, huh?

[4maskwolf]

My ability is also a nightkill, not just a roleblock.

Why didn't I bring it up beforehand?  Because I'm BUSY.  Busy busy busy busy.  Notice how I didn't post yesterday?  Notice how I didn't get online yesterday?  I'm busy.

I'm not backing it up because I have no reason to believe you are anything but what you say, it's just a niggling doubt in the back of my mind.  TDS, on the other hand, is FAR more likely to be the guard who blocked me.

[Tiruin]

I'm not backing it up because I have no reason to believe you are anything but what you say, it's just a niggling doubt in the back of my mind.  TDS, on the other hand, is FAR more likely to be the guard who blocked me.

@Orange: Well you'll have to decide soon :v Because UNLESS you're facing a 2 person scumteam, by your perspective ONE of us has to be scoom. :^

...The orange part doesn't help your case or credibility, silly. You not backing it up in the face of scrutiny--given the role of critical examination and critical thinking--doesn't help and may detract to the impact of your ideas.

Just chill, dude. I find your theory reasonable and plausible. But its lacking. A. Lot.
I want to hear from you more.
Do tell.

Because y'all aren't pure roleblockers, unless...

Meph: Can we get a clarification on the role: Lone Vampire and Guard?
I recall 'pure' roleblockers getting precedence over 'hybrid' roleblockers in the order of actions; may we get details on these two roles if they are pure/hybrid?

[4maskwolf]

@Tiruin: If TDS isn't scum, then NQT was probably telling the truth, TDS is a GA, and you are scum, so town is screwed anyway.  Given that, it's almost certain you're town and TDS is a lying scum, so I have no reason to believe that you are anything but what you claim.  Thus, by process of elimination, TDS is a cult guard.  Because there's no other way I was role blocked last night except by a guard that I know of.

Sorry if I seem terse or irritable, I'm doing something else at the same time I consider more important than helping the town win.  Sorry.  I only care about surviving.

[Tiruin]

@Tiruin: If TDS isn't scum, then NQT was probably telling the truth, TDS is a GA, and you are scum, so town is screwed anyway.  Given that, it's almost certain you're town and TDS is a lying scum, so I have no reason to believe that you are anything but what you claim.  Thus, by process of elimination, TDS is a cult guard.  Because there's no other way I was role blocked last night except by a guard that I know of.

Sorry if I seem terse or irritable, I'm doing something else at the same time I consider more important than helping the town win.  Sorry.  I only care about surviving.

@Orange: Totally bus'd my buddy given that we could've won yesterday in that case and I'm totally testing the patience of all the players by killing off my buddy who eliminated a GA because Sage-points.

Rescind Shorten.

Cheeet? Opinion please?
In my selective memory, I find 4mask's idea...plausible (although he could've planned it in scumchat if true given the creativity of it.) And do note the presence of interaction in 4mask's claim compared to TDS' 'Nobody blocked me' or the lack of interaction in his claim.

...So it's weird.
But it is plausible given how NQT, being Sage, out'd TDS, and made manifest one missing puzzle piece in my speculation-bin about 'Why would NQT do...'
Although given 4mask's predecessors' actions...its subjective in reason given their posts and the essence of such posts.

[Mephansteras]

Meph: Can we get a clarification on the role: Lone Vampire and Guard?
I recall 'pure' roleblockers getting precedence over 'hybrid' roleblockers in the order of actions; may we get details on these two roles if they are pure/hybrid?

Both count as Pure Roleblockers for the purposes of OOA.

[Tiruin]

Meph: Can we get a clarification on the role: Lone Vampire and Guard?
I recall 'pure' roleblockers getting precedence over 'hybrid' roleblockers in the order of actions; may we get details on these two roles if they are pure/hybrid?

Both count as Pure Roleblockers for the purposes of OOA.

If one acted on the other and vice versa during the same night, could we know of the hypothetical result?

[Mephansteras]

Meph: Can we get a clarification on the role: Lone Vampire and Guard?
I recall 'pure' roleblockers getting precedence over 'hybrid' roleblockers in the order of actions; may we get details on these two roles if they are pure/hybrid?

Both count as Pure Roleblockers for the purposes of OOA.

If one acted on the other and vice versa during the same night, could we know of the hypothetical result?

Roleblockers targeting one another generally results in neither actually doing anything that night. How I do that with the flavor varies, but that's the basic result.

[TheDarkStar]

I'm going to vote for a shorten. Here's my logic for why the day should end:

At this point, the only people who could reasonably scum are me and 4mask. If I'm scum, the only person I can safely kill is 4mask. After that, I get lynched. If he gets lynched and is town, I die. On the other hand, if he's scum, he dies if I'm lynched and I'm his only possible kill. After I die, he gets lynched. This doesn't need to be dragged out any further.