What other focus is there? I know you're the Werebear and Jack was the Monster Hunter and TDS was the GA. That left Flabort, Hazard and Tiruin. I wasn't sure either way about Flabort or Hazard but found Tiruin scummier. Flabort was mislynched and now it's down to Tiruin or Hazard. Logically there must now be a two-man scum team with only left alive and the only way that could be in any way balanced is if Tiruin is scum. It's not scummy to focus on only one target when there is only one target. Tiruin is the final cultist, there's no other possibility.
One big possibility which I find outlined very well in other's words than mine:
The other focus is Hazard, although he's just asked for replacement. I find your complete unwillingness to consider Hazard as a potential lynch candidate more than a bit suspicious.
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The main problem being that YOU suspected him too, NQT. But refuse, or in the least are reluctant to expound on him at all--mainly focusing on me.
I've considered it, I just don't find it credible. Put yourself in my shoes for a moment here: I know there must be a two-man scum team. We know from previous games that when there less three people in a scum teams they get some kind of compensatory advantage (in the past this has been a conversion or the dark magus' additional powers). We also know that it's just a conventional kill cult so that rules out any magus-like power. The only thing that fits the bill is the GA's protection.
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Or, y'know, you could note your...own...hole there.
Because you quite much confirmed TDS.
You have noted rising suspicion of Roo//H4zard
but acted on it very little, as far as I can see.
And the only mention on how this would work is if TDS would either be Fallen Angel (or something malevolent angel) [
which was covered by Jack A T {covered by Persus13}, or TDS is a normal Guardian Angel (which would mean Third-party + cult) in your scenario of me.
Let's boil it down hard, in your situation.
We've got 5 dudes here (ok, 3 dudes, 1 therianthrope, 1 heavenly entity, but you get my point)
H4zard gets lynched, poof goes townsman.
You suppose I kill you.
Next day arrives--we've got me, Cheeet and TDS. Normal scenario; makes sense.
It's reasonable. I've not went against that.
Problem is how you're speaking now (ok, before). Outlined in orange.
You have discredited the only method by which it will make sense in that post--by discrediting the
event of a protector role (ie Wizard), supplanting a two-man scumteam to fit your suspicion (in recent post changed to a
one man scumteam), you've denoted very strange scenarios--noting me bussing H4zard [which would pretty much mean WE'VE ALREADY WON TODAY], and then purely cut down to the
one man scumteam...again. Because it makes sense. -.-
But through all this I can say you're doing nice work--singling out a crucial pin here--you can't lynch TDS. You can't lynch Cheeet. You can only target me, or bus H4zard. The reluctance to do so tells me its a 2-man scumteam with no holds barred (unless you...err, NK TDS. Which would be a very amusing point in flavor at least?), or a 1-man scumteam, which is somehow strange if its just you given the
very nice flavor you gave
back here and the denotation of no threats. What puzzles me is the lack of said edge in making a case against me (though the reasonable scenario detailed above works).
But the reluctant-scenario also has equal or more merit (depending on the person that isn't me, for me its the latter):
I get lynched
You're with H4zard
NK TDS
Cheeet is outnumbered.
OR if ALONE
I get lynched
Either one of you or H4zard is scum
NK TDS (because I've no idea what the game would be if GA is alone with cult, since if you NK Cheeet in a 2-man scenario, you're going to get mauled [unless KNIGHT]. Most likely GA will 'leave' having failed their wincon)
Leaving Either-man cult, Cheeet and either-man town.
OR
I get lynched
Either one of you or H4zard is scum
NK the OTHER PERSON
Leaving Cheeet and the either-cultman alive.
In which I've no idea if cult can actually win then, because its against a Werebear, who will pretty much maul your face unless you're a M.Hunter. Who is now ded. Who I've the sanctity to stare at his grave and admire the =granite gravestone=.
Anyway. Point in case, one single post.
Hold up. If there's a two-man scum team (Hazard and Tiruin), it'd be insane for Tiruin to bus Hazard when she could just auto-win at this point. So that means there's a one man scum team. The only way I can see that balancing out is if Tiruin is the scum, with the team protecting by the GA. A two-man Hazard team, even despite the fact one of them was a Guard, would seem too brittle (as they couldn't Guard one another and kill in the same night that way). If we don't lynch Tiruin today, then I'll be NK'd and Tiruin and the GA will outnumber you tomorrow. It's a loss for town unless Tiruin dies.
Hazard, Cheetar, if we want to win we have to kill Tiruin today.
You are not following up on holistic expectations, NQT.
But given this sword of Damocles, I have to reenact Damocles' perceived wisdom (since I don't know the whole story and just use the analogy for the sword being there rather than knowing the ending [what seriously happened?!]), by noting every point in this case--you may be town, yeah, given the extreme verge I posted about earlier, and may be...pretty against me which causes the tunneling.
IF PERHAPS the one-man scumteam is valid and not-me, then the scenarios above should have equal merit here. IF it is only H4zard, then you may pretty much be town, something which led to the credibility of
me voting for him instead of you because you MAY BE TOWN right now, but panicky having seen the first scenario mentioned.
But it doesn't give credence to the one-man scumteam if you take it holistically. I'm all for being lynched--but I...err,
pretty much need TDS to post if I'm truly his Ward (as in, person-to-be-taken-care-of).
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