birdy51: Have an amusing thing.
Persus13 - [...] His defense of Cheesecake still bothers me in that he still is open to the idea that Cheesecake is scum, but is unwilling to vote for him. This strikes me as paradoxical, and is by far my largest beef with him.
Please clarify, as I don't see the logic here. Is it not normal for players to not be willing to vote for everyone they're open to the idea of being scum? Where is the paradox?
Yeah. It's not much of a paradox, is it? What bothered me then was that I thought he was going against his scum hunting instincts in favor of leaving Cheesecake around for later. But frankly, I'm fairly certain that I was more paranoid of Persus13 then anything else, especially in light of the lack of a conversion cult.
One more question: under what circumstances would you vote? Tie at the end of the day?
You're a Town Guardsmen, a role that has not been given to scum once in the past seven games of Supernatural. Converted yes, given out from the start, no. Therefore, I can only assume that this Supernatural continues the pattern. As such, it's only logical to assume you are Town.
You can't safely assume any town role will be given out exclusively to town in a Meph game. Kind of key to his Mafia design approach.
Just to be clear, though...
Meph: Can scum have guards without converting them?
@Jack A T: Yes. Guards are not a restricted role.
Blargh. Well then. This comes as a surprise to me. Regardless, I am being too trusting of OSG since that's the case. I'll have to redefine how I view him. Per the question of when I would lynch, the answer is I don't know. On Tuesday, I'm fairly certain I have an event that again runs to the end of Day, so if I do stick to a vote, it'll have to be with the intention of making it last. It's one of those things I need to think about.
How do you manage to get something suspicious out of Epenguin's single RVS post?
I didn't. The basis of my suspicion is on Roo's flimsy vote only a few posts later after I pushed him for a word. This was before I voted for Epenguin mind you. The combination of the two events makes me slightly curious if it wasn't a chainsaw defense. Further, it's not just one RVS question, but a long reign of radio silence. It's unnerving and bothersome. Hearing nothing from Tiruin causes me to pause, since I know going into the game as scum is daunting.
Of course, I kinda need to let her actually post once or twice before I leap down her throat. So for now, it's just unfounded suspicion and distrust.
'm not really sure how you want me to respond to this one. So instead of myself giving a half baked response, I'd like you to clarify just what you're asking here.
Would you agree or disagree that you misinterpreted what I was saying about you?
I disagree. I maintain that you seemed to have had suspicions of me Day 1, but those suspicions didn't linger to Day 2, where your comments struck me as being out of place and out of character.
But, on the matter of my case against you, I will admit to one mistake. I framed a helluva lot of accusations against you, but I asked a grand total of only one single question. Now, I don't know about you, but that's a pretty shitty way of doing things. Then it suddenly struck me this morning. I haven't given you any places of explaining your half of the story and immediately jumped to the conclusion that you are scum. For that I apologize. Now I'm going to correct that mistake.
1). What stopped Day 1 Flabort from making his own reads? In connection to this question, why did you wait until Day 2 and my request to reformulate everything?
I don't want to needlessly vote Cheesecake when there's already a lot of pressure on him for one single slip, when there's a slim possibility that he could be telling the truth at this stage, especially given that I pointed out the thing that caused everyone to wagon on him; I feel like I already cast a dark shadow of doom onto him, and my vote is therefor already on him; but it's not, so I can save it to vote someone else.
I was giving him the benefit of the doubt; he is a novice after all. I was not flaunting that fact. I was pointing out that I felt bad for creating "cultgate 2015" as somebody so eloquently put it, and marking him as not completely innocent yet. Yes, I guess you could call it exposing, but it was not my intention to create an out-of-control wagon. Hence why I voted someone else; someone who at the time I found more suspicious anyways.
2). Note the dissonance between these two posts. Were you really giving him the benefit of the doubt?
3). Is seriousness indicative of a Townie alignment? Further, is non-seriousness indicative of a Scum alignment?
4). Why are you consistently trying to bait others into contradicting themselves? By your own words, players find ways to make other players suspicious of them. If so, why do you choose to consistently place 'traps' and 'bait' for other players to fall for?
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Blergh... Still under the weather, but I wanted to eek a post out. It's beginning to feel like we're talking amongst ourselves, which strikes me as a bad sign.
And... Bah. Origami is apparently out for the week. That leaves Tiruin, Roo, Cheesecake, and Spruce as players we need more input from.
As for adjusted reads, I'll try to mull things over and have em ready for tomorrow.