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DizzyCrash

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Why Are my Goblins not spawning... I need goblins..
« on: May 18, 2015, 03:19:53 pm »
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This is my entity file for goblins, iv been dealing with glitches trying to make this map over and over, and just when it all seems like its going to work it refuses to put goblins down, instead its just a double of one of the races already down, humans, dwarves and perhaps elves instead.
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GoblinCookie

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Re: Why Are my Goblins not spawning... I need goblins..
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2015, 06:10:19 pm »
Did you put.

[OBJECT:ENTITY]

At the beginning of your file?

The file is not valid unless it has this. 
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DizzyCrash

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Re: Why Are my Goblins not spawning... I need goblins..
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2015, 07:18:17 pm »
Quote from: GoblinCookie on May 18, 2015, 06:10:19 pm
Did you put.

[OBJECT:ENTITY]

At the beginning of your file?

The file is not valid unless it has this.

Yes, it is there, otherwise the other races wouldnt be generating.
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scamtank

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Re: Why Are my Goblins not spawning... I need goblins..
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2015, 07:24:04 pm »
You do have the actual name ([ENTITY:EVIL] for instance) on top of that mess, right? Just guessing what's omitted.

Does your world have demons? Considering how often goblin civilizations start with a devil escaping to the surface, that could trip them up.
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DizzyCrash

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Re: Why Are my Goblins not spawning... I need goblins..
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2015, 07:39:19 pm »
Quote from: scamtank on May 18, 2015, 07:24:04 pm
You do have the actual name ([ENTITY:EVIL] for instance) on top of that mess, right? Just guessing what's omitted.

Does your world have demons? Considering how often goblin civilizations start with a devil escaping to the surface, that could trip them up.

Yes and Yes.. Although I did set it so there was only one type of demon, it was so each world had a unique look for a devil like figure.
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scamtank

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Re: Why Are my Goblins not spawning... I need goblins..
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2015, 07:50:35 pm »
Try with more types, then. It seems pretty random whether a given demon in the list is generated a UNIQUE_DEMON capable of world domination hijinks or just a DEMON footsoldier to man the adamantine tubes.

I'm currently looking at a world that was generated with 20 types of demons - only the species 5, 6, 7 and 8 are unique.
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Re: Why Are my Goblins not spawning... I need goblins..
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2015, 01:00:52 am »
Quote from: scamtank on May 18, 2015, 07:24:04 pm
You do have the actual name ([ENTITY:EVIL] for instance) on top of that mess, right? Just guessing what's omitted.

Does your world have demons? Considering how often goblin civilizations start with a devil escaping to the surface, that could trip them up.
I believe the way it works is each civilization with dark fortress sites needs its own demon type that no other civilizations have, so having only one demon type per world restricts goblin civs to one. This might not actually be true, but I think it is and it would be quite easy to test. That's probably not the whole problem though. Try checking the "errorlog" file in the main Dwarf Fortress directory. If it's not there then that means there aren't any errors.
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Re: Why Are my Goblins not spawning... I need goblins..
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2015, 01:47:29 am »
vjmdhzgr is pretty much correct. The number of dark fortress civilizations will be no greater than the number of demon lords (and can be less), and the number of demon lords can be no more than (and is often less than) one per caste of demons in the world. Setting demon types to one would frequently create worlds in which no dark fortress civ could be placed, and you'd pretty much never see more than one, even on the worlds where having one was possible.
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