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[BlitzDungeoneer]

Kevak sez: Well, I'll just alter the sensory input so everything is black then.

[Empiricist]

At this point, it's probably easier to just distract someone and stab them in the eyes.

[~Neri]

translateresplains

[smurfingtonthethird]

all these flavors and you choose salty

[Happy Demon]

totes in illusio nterritory

nowhere near god

if i wanted a godcharacter i would use a realitywarrper

also spiderewvilmi

ohhey lightning out window


or maybe exlosion

No, not in illusion territory, I don't care how much weaseling and digressing you do.
It will NEVER be in illusion territory, and if it is, then it calls for a nerf, and therefore isn't in illusion territory.

I don't care that he isn't a realitywarper, since you don't even need one in order to have a god character.
Also, you're playing as a Kitsune, and you said they can alter reality once they become powerful enough, so that argument falls flat.
Heck, you can even cheat your way to that state without waiting the many millennia needed.

Is this our cue to go back to burger analogies? It seemed to work out so well with the last argument (the one where the final ruling was that huffing burgers for nourishment has no health risks, but actually consuming one results in obesity)

If you do digress with those burgers, I'll take that as a win, until you actually counter what I'm saying.

[~Neri]

totes in illusio nterritory

nowhere near god

if i wanted a godcharacter i would use a realitywarrper

also spiderewvilmi

ohhey lightning out window


or maybe exlosion

No, not in illusion territory, I don't care how much weaseling and digressing you do.
It will NEVER be in illusion territory, and if it is, then it calls for a nerf, and therefore isn't in illusion territory.

I don't care that he isn't a realitywarper, since you don't even need one in order to have a god character.
Also, you're playing as a Kitsune, and you said they can alter reality once they become powerful enough, so that argument falls flat.
Heck, you can even cheat your way to that state without waiting the many millennia needed.

Is this our cue to go back to burger analogies? It seemed to work out so well with the last argument (the one where the final ruling was that huffing burgers for nourishment has no health risks, but actually consuming one results in obesity)

If you do digress with those burgers, I'll take that as a win, until you actually counter what I'm saying.

gotta wait millenia to realitywarp no way arounsd

also it is illusion territory. tis final not in mental state to argue spidereverywhere

totes having a breaktdownbytheway

its illusion.

[smurfingtonthethird]

just grab the little shit and stick a knife in his eye

he won't be doing anything, then

[Empiricist]

just grab the little shit and stick a knife in his eye

he won't be doing anything, then

My point exactly. You don't even need to grab them, illusion definitely covers tricking/distracting them long enough to land the attack.

Is this our cue to go back to burger analogies? It seemed to work out so well with the last argument (the one where the final ruling was that huffing burgers for nourishment has no health risks, but actually consuming one results in obesity)

If you do digress with those burgers, I'll take that as a win, until you actually counter what I'm saying.

I'm not really arguing for either party here, I'm just trying to kill off the two debates and leave it to the GM to handle it, or at least get them to take place on the same page.

I think a better question, is why someone would want to blind someone as opposed to distract or deceive them illusions. After all it's pointless to argue a circumstance if it will never pop up. If it's gotten to the point where blinding is needed, trickery combined with physical trauma to sensory organs would probably be more efficient.

[Sanure]

Yeah it's at this point we give the GM the platter o' burgers and see what Twin has to say about it's deliciousness.

[BFEL]

Er Happy? I think you should loosen up on Kevak man. Doesn't really seem like a powergamer to me. I'm a munchkin, I know what that shit looks like.

I'm with Xantalos on this stuff, if Kevak had wanted a super OP character he could have done SOOOOOOOOO much worse. Like you have no fucking idea.

Personally looking through the first argument I felt like Rag was putting way more bullshit in then Kevak, because he was trying to dictate how Kevak's character works, which never leads anywhere nice. Glad at Twinwolf's decision, such fairness, much wise.

Though I can understand your concern about this since anything Kevak does also affects Kumo, I don't think you have anything to really worry about right now.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Put it like this; Rag and Kevak have done far more broken characters than Torimus and Kiri. I speak because I've had to GM one of Rag's more broken characters.

Happy, no point in telling Emp off, he's trying to get everyone to chill the fuck out and let Twin hand down rulings.

Moreover, I suggest that everyone get their lore shit in order because clearly that seems to be the problem.

[~Neri]

Er Happy? I think you should loosen up on Kevak man. Doesn't really seem like a powergamer to me. I'm a munchkin, I know what that shit looks like.

I'm with Xantalos on this stuff, if Kevak had wanted a super OP character he could have done SOOOOOOOOO much worse. Like you have no fucking idea.

Personally looking through the first argument I felt like Rag was putting way more bullshit in then Kevak, because he was trying to dictate how Kevak's character works, which never leads anywhere nice. Glad at Twinwolf's decision, such fairness, much wise.

Though I can understand your concern about this since anything Kevak does also affects Kumo, I don't think you have anything to really worry about right now.

tobefair kumo has no skill whatsoever

perception is advanced

making fakeobjects is simple

censoring convercation.. buttns vil also spider

 conversation is inari grade smallscale detail not something yakko could do and def not tsuki

[Empiricist]

Twinwolf doesn't actually need to make any specific ruling on blindness. The only ruling needed is a general one about illusion output.

If the maximum amount of illusionary power available is insufficient to cover someone's entire field of vision, then it is incapable of fully blinding a person or causing a similar effect (like filling it with random crap that obscures their view).

[~Neri]

Twinwolf doesn't actually need to make any specific ruling on blindness. The only ruling needed is a general one about illusion output.

If the maximum amount of illusionary power available is insufficient to cover someone's entire field of vision, then it is incapable of fully blinding a person or causing a similar effect (like filling it with random crap that obscures their view).

easy to blot vision with randomshit

[smurfingtonthethird]

are you drunk or did you forget how to type

i'm quite a fan of doing both at the same time