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[Empiricist]

I think you two are going off on two differing definitions of the same term again.

[Sanure]

Sounds about right Emp :/

[Vacio]

Okay, Kevak's Kitsune illusion explanation sounds like something bordering on telepathy. And it sounds like it allows weaseling, so I'll just try to explain it so you can't weasel with it.
The Kitsune aren't telepathic, they're illusionists.
A Kitsune can't alter how you perceive, but they can make you see things or hide things from view.
Basically, they send you illusions which only you can see. These can cancel what you see, or suggest it looks like something, which would make you project your expectations onto it.

The only way for a Kitsune to be psychic is if they're taught it by psychics (and it's a form of psychic that even Humans can learn).
The foxfire is NOT better than any other form of magic, there's no way it can.
Saying one is better than the other is like saying a car is better than a bunker. They can't be compared before you apply a situation or parameter to judge it by.

Er no, that isn't what we talked about. It also isn't bordering on telepathy.

Whenever you say "altering target's perception", that's bordering on telepathy (or some sort of other psychic effect). Kitsune illusion can work off perception, but not alter it.
I will not let you "Song of Saya" people, not even for an instant.

I would not call it telepathy but rather a mind-affecting ability as it in the end effect does affect the mind's perception by use of sensory data. Mind-affecting abilities do not always directly affect the mind.

[Twinwolf]

-snip-

And I joined less than 3 months ago!

[BlitzDungeoneer]

And I joined almost 2 years ago!

[Empiricist]

And it is utterly irrelevant!

[~Neri]

oihewifhesifewhi spidereverywherekillthemthereinmyroomandthelivingroom

* kevak has stopped working pls reboot

[Sanure]

*Proceeds to Reboot Kevak

[~Neri]

pls download antispiederlaserfireguns spiderseverewgrewghre

[Happy Demon]

Err. Illusions are Literally the alteration of perception. You do something to alter how the brain perceives something. Also water's magnifying effect is just light dilation, it isn't an illusion.

And I'm expecting you to weasel that into making people blind or lose balance.
So I'm just going to say that Kitsune can't do that. Because it's a different school of magic (which also Humans can learn).
Visual and auditory illusions is all you can do, maybe a bit of touchy feely, but no color blinding people.

[~Neri]

Err. Illusions are Literally the alteration of perception. You do something to alter how the brain perceives something. Also water's magnifying effect is just light dilation, it isn't an illusion.

And I'm expecting you to weasel that into making people blind or lose balance.
So I'm just going to say that Kitsune can't do that. Because it's a different school of magic (which also Humans can learn).
Visual and auditory illusions is all you can do, maybe a bit of touchy feely, but no color blinding people.

will argue later

kitsune can totes make peopel blind

was satates earlier

[Empiricist]

Err. Illusions are Literally the alteration of perception. You do something to alter how the brain perceives something. Also water's magnifying effect is just light dilation, it isn't an illusion.

And I'm expecting you to weasel that into making people blind or lose balance.
So I'm just going to say that Kitsune can't do that. Because it's a different school of magic (which also Humans can learn).
Visual and auditory illusions is all you can do, maybe a bit of touchy feely, but no color blinding people.

will argue later

kitsune can totes make peopel blind

was satates earlier

It involves a lot of screaming and a decent quantity of blood

[Happy Demon]

Err. Illusions are Literally the alteration of perception. You do something to alter how the brain perceives something. Also water's magnifying effect is just light dilation, it isn't an illusion.

And I'm expecting you to weasel that into making people blind or lose balance.
So I'm just going to say that Kitsune can't do that. Because it's a different school of magic (which also Humans can learn).
Visual and auditory illusions is all you can do, maybe a bit of touchy feely, but no color blinding people.

will argue later

kitsune can totes make peopel blind

was satates earlier

F*** no, that's outside Kitsune territory, not gonna allow that. They can obscure vision with illusions, but not flat out blind people.
I'm making limits, because I can't trust you. I don't want Kumo to have god powers.

[~Neri]

totes in illusio nterritory

nowhere near god

if i wanted a godcharacter i would use a realitywarrper

also spiderewvilmi

ohhey lightning out window


or maybe exlosion

[Empiricist]

Is this our cue to go back to burger analogies? It seemed to work out so well with the last argument (the one where the final ruling was that huffing burgers for nourishment has no health risks, but actually consuming one results in obesity)