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[Kluge]

Noticed there were only a few thousand things on the to-do list. Figured I should contribute.

Spoiler: Gutters & floods (click to show/hide)

Aquifers and rivers - not my thing. Rain, however, is, and I have difficulty keeping my moats filled, partially because too much rainwater is wasted by the framerate-saving rain mechanics. It'd be nice if I had the option to have rain drops interpreted as 1/7 water tiles in the init, with it off by default (due to how 1/7 water would interfere with projects and the potential lag). It would also be nice if we could build in 1/7 and maybe even 2/7 submerged environments -- I'm sure there's some reason this would fundamentally ruin the game, but I can't imagine it.

As for gutters - it'd be fantastic if I could go on the same Z-level as my walls and run gutters all along them to collect rain which hits the roof. I can then use walls with a ramp every two tiles to funnel that water where I want it, with some kind of "gutter spout" device at the end where water funnels out -- extra-awesome fun: if I have too many gutters and not enough gutters in a heavy rainstorm, water spills over the gutters into places I didn't want it.

Gutter cleaning.... ..... .... okay, that's definitely too far, isn't it?

Spoiler: Auto-sexing & male eradication (click to show/hide)

 Yeah - that got your attention, didn't it? Male animals are a burden in most ranching applications. While this should probably be referred to falconne, I'd love to be able to have dwarves immediately kill off any male babies born within defined pastures, maybe with some pomp so they can pretend they're making some great sacrifice to their deity (oh, we were totally going to use this totally awesome billy which keeps beating the shit out of our nannies, but no sacrifice is too great for our lord [except us dying, so take the goat and be happy, please]).

Spoiler: Steers & Queers (click to show/hide)

 -So if we have LBG(T"Q"?) people, why are all my animals straight? Dunno about you, but I've come across some pretty queer animals in my time. Maybe have it as a condition for a Conservative Crime Squad raid... ...... actually... LCS/DF crossover would be pretty awesome.

Spoiler: Stonesense (click to show/hide)

So-named because it'd be terribly confusing. I feel like I should be able to mark areas I want my legendary miners to stonesense. I mean - becoming a level 20+ miner is about more than just swinging a pick faster and more effectively, right? Maybe level/2=#nonvisible-tiles-from-visible-tile-sensed and level*4=chance-to-actually-ID-the-mineral.

Spoiler: Deity denominations & priest factions (click to show/hide)

Urist McNotLutheran submits to Dog. Urist McNotJew submits to Dog. Urist McNotEaternOrthodox submits to Dog. Urist McNotCatholic submits to Dog. -But priests' interpretations of what Dog said and did has resulted in ethics skews, sometimes radically, and rarely even radically enough to cause war. Maybe a war can be won by meeting certain conditions and the loser become followers of the new priest faction denomination. Maybe there is a value determining how the dominant priest faction of a deity responds to heresies, and maybe they make it a point to cleanse all heretics (word travels slowly, so it's possible a heresy can build up a significant stronghold and army prior to being invaded by the dominant denomination).

Spoiler: Creative Punishments (click to show/hide)

Always with the hammerings -- why not ban alcohol consumption for the individual, instead? Alternately, force him to forage for food. Maybe as punishment, his first-born is set to be executed for his father's crime - really keep the family in line from there out. Maybe it's simply that he's given some tag like [CANNOTHOLDROOM], so he has to sleep with the peasants in the homeless shelter.

Spoiler: Bad Doctors (click to show/hide)

Dwarven doctors get away with too much. Urist McFumbleButt spent his entire life operating a pump, but now he's suddenly the only bone doctor in the game with no problems "repairing" multiple compound fractures. The patient doesn't bleed out nor does Urist completely snap a bone in his drunken stupor - he even always remembers to take anything from his inventory which fell in during surgery out of the patient before he's closed up. MFB is definitely going to kill someone, and probably his first handful of patients before he gets a single one right, and maybe he should be punished for even trying.

Spoiler: Cat Milk (click to show/hide)

No, I don't think cats should have milk trays. I think they should be milked -- every mammal should be able to be milked. Why not? People think it's weird we can milk pigs? No, it's weird we can't milk cats in vanilla.

Spoiler: Industrial Pollution (click to show/hide)

 -So we're underground, right, and I have this, say, 9x9 closed-off room with 9 wood furnaces in it. -And nobody cares. They just breathe that shit in, happy as can be. I don't even think that room should have any oxygen within a few seconds of those hell-puffers going - they should basically be self-snuffing. -But at the least, everyone in there should die a relatively quick but horrible death. Thanks.

[Alfrodo]

Oh boy. Another pile of suggestions post.

[Putnam]

1. Muddy ponds already do this

2. Seems like a simple anti-micro change

3. your animals are not all straight, try using my gaydar

4. Prospecting might just be a separate thing from mining

5. Maybe once religion actually becomes important, this seems kinda obvious

6. dwarves consider torture to be something punishable by death

7. dwarves do sometimes make stupid diagnoses, AFAIK.

8. yeah sure, but it doesn't seem too economically viable

9. extremely common suggestion

[NW_Kohaku]

In general, you should avoid making "suggestion lists".  Toady doesn't regularly read these forums, and has said that he instead just searches topics for ideas when he's thinking about implementing any given thing. 

There are thousands of "my big list of little things" suggestions threads, (including two others on the front page right now,) and almost all of them are buried and ignored soon after.  If you want people to pay attention to a suggestion, you should try to focus upon developing a few key ideas.  Also, try to search for what has come before.  It's better to bring an old thread back from the dustbin than to start a new thread that just says what an old thread already said.  The value of the Suggestions Forum is in the discussion they generate, and criticisms that mold rough ideas into better ones. 


1. Rain already generates 1/7 water tiles.  Rain barrels (as a way to collect water from rain) have been planned for a while.

2. Auto-culling of herds is a popular interface suggestion that has come up several times before. There is a DFHack plugin for it as well.

3. Your animals aren't all straight.  They have the same probability as dwarves do to be gay.  Oddly, they also don't breed because they have "commitment issues", even though it makes little sense that a dog wouldn't hump another dog without first being willing to put a ring on it. 

4. Stonesense already is a thing.  Previous versions of the game made high-level miners produce more usable material from digging walls (up to every single tile), but this was nerfed to prevent FPS death.  Being able to "see" other stones is something that would be seriously complicated, because visibility as a whole isn't terribly well-implemented in the game as of yet.

5. Religious factions are in some parts planned, and there are other suggestions you might want to look up.

6. Imprisonment is also a possible punishment (and preferred to hammerings) if you keep having hammerings, did you actually remember to set up a jail? 

7. Bad doctors already exist.  BELIEVE ME, medical practice in DF is pretty darn fatal.

8. The thing about milking cats is that you wouldn't be able to fill a bucket of milk with a single cat's milk.  Pigs are larger than cats.  If you want it for yourself, though, just alter the raws by copy-pasting the milking code from cows into cats. 

9. This is also something that has been suggested many times before.  It is especially prevalent with concepts like preventing sealing of dwarves off to avoid sieges.

[Putnam]

In general, you should avoid making "suggestion lists".  Toady doesn't regularly read these forums, and has said that he instead just searches topics for ideas when he's thinking about implementing any given thing. 

He's also recently said that he read the whole damn thing and is trying to keep up now.

[Kluge]

In general, you should avoid making "suggestion lists".  Toady doesn't regularly read these forums, and has said that he instead just searches topics for ideas when he's thinking about implementing any given thing. 

There are thousands of "my big list of little things" suggestions threads, (including two others on the front page right now,) and almost all of them are buried and ignored soon after.  If you want people to pay attention to a suggestion, you should try to focus upon developing a few key ideas.  Also, try to search for what has come before.  It's better to bring an old thread back from the dustbin than to start a new thread that just says what an old thread already said.  The value of the Suggestions Forum is in the discussion they generate, and criticisms that mold rough ideas into better ones. 


1. Rain already generates 1/7 water tiles.  Rain barrels (as a way to collect water from rain) have been planned for a while.

2. Auto-culling of herds is a popular interface suggestion that has come up several times before. There is a DFHack plugin for it as well.

3. Your animals aren't all straight.  They have the same probability as dwarves do to be gay.  Oddly, they also don't breed because they have "commitment issues", even though it makes little sense that a dog wouldn't hump another dog without first being willing to put a ring on it. 

4. Stonesense already is a thing.  Previous versions of the game made high-level miners produce more usable material from digging walls (up to every single tile), but this was nerfed to prevent FPS death.  Being able to "see" other stones is something that would be seriously complicated, because visibility as a whole isn't terribly well-implemented in the game as of yet.

5. Religious factions are in some parts planned, and there are other suggestions you might want to look up.

6. Imprisonment is also a possible punishment (and preferred to hammerings) if you keep having hammerings, did you actually remember to set up a jail? 

7. Bad doctors already exist.  BELIEVE ME, medical practice in DF is pretty darn fatal.

8. The thing about milking cats is that you wouldn't be able to fill a bucket of milk with a single cat's milk.  Pigs are larger than cats.  If you want it for yourself, though, just alter the raws by copy-pasting the milking code from cows into cats. 

9. This is also something that has been suggested many times before.  It is especially prevalent with concepts like preventing sealing of dwarves off to avoid sieges.

Yay! I don't disagree that this is a poor way of actually making suggestions and Toady clearly has so many, it seems more like a disservice to even add to that terrifying list. I've developed and feel overwhelmed when I have more than 40 ideas floating around I want to implement. Super-useful for tangential learning, though!

1. I see - so it just instantly evaporates unless certain conditions are met, then. It can't spread because (1/7)/2 can't be handled cleanly. ETA: I was hoping I could find something in the raws to let me manipulate which objects act similar to muddy puddles, but was unsuccessful. No solution to figuring out how to contain the water within the gutters (without requiring they all have independent walls around them, which'd be stupid), either.

2. I had no idea this already existed. It's fantastic and up-to-date!

3. Okay - I just threw that out to be an asshole, so I'm shocked and excited. Is there a way to query Fortress dwarf knowledge in vanilla to find their determination on the sexuality of livestock in vanilla? (IOW, how do I bring up the gaydar?)

4. That's reasonable. Kind of disappointing, but it'd wouldn't help TOO much in not digging out galleries anyway.

6. I'm not sure what you mean. I have a lava moat.

7. I've had more than a handful of seriously injured dwarves. They don't seem to die unless infected (which is maybe tied to the relevant doctoring skill?) or bleed out from their wounds (very possible the bleed-out is from surgery... hard to determine). Maybe the new innovation mechanics will make dwarven surgery seem more realistic to me (I mean - I'd expect pump operator turned surgeon with no training to accidentally kill far more people than would die if they went untreated).

8. I'd guess it could be reasonably done if milking were reworked similar to how you need "150" fat globs to make tallow. Instead, you need 150 "milk units" to make cheese... maybe cheese becomes generalized and you can mix and match... or maybe not, and everybody (with familiarity with the two theoretical mods) cheers on the kid who skipped a week of school to obtain dayak fruit bat cheese.

9. I'm guessing it was suggested that it be handled similarly to liquid "depth levels," then. That seems like the most straightforward way of handling airborne pollutants and showing abnormal gases... 4/7 "pollution," impairment, 5/7 impairment + add to "airborne poison" counter on dwarf, higher levels increase the poison-per-tick -- if it reaches, say, 100, dwarf dies... maybe modifiers based on "toughness" attribute... something like that.

[Putnam]

Note that I said my gaydar. It's DFHack.