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[Aseaheru]

They all used either the engine now used in the POAC or aircraft engines.

Nope, it cant fit in the POAC. Most of the range is from the antenna, but theres also power requirements.

[Funk]

Spoiler: Splinter vest Mk 1 (click to show/hide)

Splinter vest Mk 1

A light suit of armour built only to protect against fragments.
It is made from multiple plates of thin 1 mm manganes steel and held together with interconnected webbing straps and buckles.
Plates cover the centre of the chest over the heart and lungs, a second lower plate covers the groin.
A rear plate on the lower back covers the liver, base of the lungs and with an upwards projection the base of the spinal column.

The Design is explicitly told to to attempt making this in anyway bullet proof

[coleslaw35]

And the POAC radio is small enough to NOT take up the troop compartment. How long would it last and what would be its range if we made a radio that fit into the troop compartment as a sort of Mobile HQ? Maybe run off some of the POAC's power and batteries? It would be fairly large. And it would have an antenna protruding out the top of the POAC.

[coleslaw35]

Spoiler: Splinter vest Mk 1 (click to show/hide)

Splinter vest Mk 1

A light suit of armour built only to protect against fragments.
It is made from multiple plates of thin 1 mm manganes steel and held together with interconnected webbing straps and buckles.
Plates cover the centre of the chest over the heart and lungs, a second lower plate covers the groin.
A rear plate on the lower back covers the liver, base of the lungs and with an upwards projection the base of the spinal column.

The Design is explicitly told to to attempt making this in anyway bullet proof

...explicitly told to to attempt making this in anyway bullet proof

You mean not bulletproof?

[Funk]

The Design is explicitly told not to attempt making this in anyway bullet proof

You mean not bulletproof?

fixed my quote.
It's not to be bulletproof so that it's light, a heavy suit of armour is not of much use.
This is just to protect the user from fragments in the most deadly area, nothing more.

[coleslaw35]

Spoiler: Splinter vest Mk 1 (click to show/hide)

Splinter vest Mk 1

A light suit of armour built only to protect against fragments.
It is made from multiple plates of thin 1 mm manganes steel and held together with interconnected webbing straps and buckles.
Plates cover the centre of the chest over the heart and lungs, a second lower plate covers the groin.
A rear plate on the lower back covers the liver, base of the lungs and with an upwards projection the base of the spinal column.

The Design is explicitly told to to attempt making this in anyway bullet proof

To try and get as much out of this design as we can, I would suggest the splinter vest also be designed with Modular pouches which could go anywhere along the webbing or front to allow the storage of equipment. It'd be preferable if the modular pouches could be connected together to form a cargo vest of sorts which could be worn seperstely from the Splinter Vest. I like it though, would most likely help especially our assault troops and tankers. Maybe even our pilots.

[Aseaheru]

And the POAC radio is small enough to NOT take up the troop compartment. How long would it last and what would be its range if we made a radio that fit into the troop compartment as a sort of Mobile HQ? Maybe run off some of the POAC's power and batteries? It would be fairly large. And it would have an antenna protruding out the top of the POAC.

It will probably have a radio sticking out the top anyways. But in any case, while the radio is designed for the POAC, the POAC is not yet designed for the radio.

[coleslaw35]

And the POAC radio is small enough to NOT take up the troop compartment. How long would it last and what would be its range if we made a radio that fit into the troop compartment as a sort of Mobile HQ? Maybe run off some of the POAC's power and batteries? It would be fairly large. And it would have an antenna protruding out the top of the POAC.

It will probably have a radio sticking out the top anyways. But in any case, while the radio is designed for the POAC, the POAC is not yet designed for the radio.

Oh alright, thn we'll need to have a design team do a redesign of the POAC. Should be simple enough as this is nothing too over the top. We'll just tell them to find an effective way to put the radio in the POAC that won't decrease its performance too harshly.

[coleslaw35]

Reworked my factory assignments because I misnamed something and didn't include bombs.

The Head of Defense wanted us to also think about protecting the factories. We should start putting some AA weapons in and around the complex. We can start with our 40mm AA guns, but we also need something more. Wasn't the HiLo designed with aircraft in mind?

Spoiler: Factory Assignments (click to show/hide)

Workshop G1 as follows:
- Line 1 : AATSM1933 'HiLo'
- Line 2 : M1932 40mmAAA Cannon

Factory G1 as follows:
- Line 1 : AEM1932 (Ship Engine)
- Line 2 : M-C-M1936 (Gas Mask)
- Line 3 : ATHM1933

Factory G2 as follows:
- Line 1: EAM M1932 mortar
- Line 2: C-V-45-M1935
- Line 3: C-M-C-L-M1936 (Gas Mask Filter)

Factory G3 as follows:
- Line 1: SHM1935 (Helmets)
- Line 2: SHM1935 (Helmets)

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Factory V1 as follows:
- Line 1: SDE M1933 (engine)
- Line 2: SDE M1933 (engine)

Factory V2 as follows:
- Line 1: POAC-H
- Line 2: POAC-L

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Factory N1 as follows:
- Line 1: FACM1934 "Shockwave" (Fast attack craft)
- Line 2: CDV M1933 Coastal Defense Vessel

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Factory M1 as follows:
- Line 1: 18 inch torpedoes
- Line 2: CA-AAA-M1935 ammo

Factory M2 as follows:
- Line 1: 7.62x54Rmm
- Line 2: 40 mm Ammunition

Factory M3 as follows:
- Line 1: 7.62x54Rmm
- Line 2: ATHM ammunition

Factory M4 as follows:
- Line 1: .45 ACP ammunition
- Line 2: 'Hilo' Ammunition

Factory M5 as follows:
- Line 1: 45mm Shells
- Line 2: Mortar shells

Factory M6 as follows:
- Line 1: G-H-M1935
- Line 2: Bombs

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Factory E1 as follows:
- Line 1: R-N-M1936
- Line 2: R-V-M1935

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Factory SA1 as follows:
- Line 1: SM1911/34
- Line 2: SM1911/34
- Line 3: MM1934
- Line 4: SMM1934 Double
- Line 5: MM1934
- Line 6: RM1891
- Line 7: RM1891
- Line 8: RM1891

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Factory LA1 as follows:
- Line 1: AATSM1933 'HiLo'
- Line 2: CA-AAA-M1935

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Factory A1
- Line 1: HGAAM1934 "Baklan" (Heavy dive bomber)
- Line 2: I-C-M1936 (Fighter)

Factory AM1
- Line 1: AEM1933 "Hurricane" (Aircraft engine)
- Line 2: AEM1933 "Hurricane" (Aircraft engine)

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[Aseaheru]

Yes it was.

[coleslaw35]

Yes it was.

Alright cool, so let's just plant some 40mm AA guns and some HiLo's. Easy.

[coleslaw35]

I'll just start throwing some things out there as the list seems fairly bare.

Now that we have Radios, would we be able to design a Radar system or would we have to acquire one first? Also, We'd probably need yet another Munitions Factory and we definitely need one or two more Large Arms factories. Everyone, feel free to come forward with more ideas. Maybe we should start talking about a rifle using an intermediate round? If we design such a thing though, we'll probably need more than just one munitions factory due to lack of lines.

Aseaheru, how many AEM1932s are produced in one general factory?



These are the suggestions so far:

Design

D1:

Spoiler: Fire Storm Interceptor (click to show/hide)

All metal mono plane,with an enclosed cockpit, an engine mounted to the rear of pilot and linked to a pusher prop.

Armour: 8mm of nickel-molybdenum steel plate around the cockpit.
13 mm plate of  nickel-molybdenum steel on the back of the seat.
2mm fire wall between the pilot and the fuel tanks.

Weapons: 4x M-1 Machineguns in wing roots with 500 belts rounds per gun.
4 X 20mm cannons in the nose with 60 round drums

Engine: 2 x "Hurricane" aero engine 1500HP
Crew: 1 pilot

Wingspan: 9 m
Length: 11 m
Empty weight: 3225 kg

edit
The Pilot's seat should have an oxygen feed line for his mask.

D2:

Spoiler: Splinter Vest Mk 1 (click to show/hide)

A light suit of armour built only to protect against fragments.
It is made from multiple plates of thin 1 mm manganes steel and held together with interconnected webbing straps and buckles.
Plates cover the centre of the chest over the heart and lungs, a second lower plate covers the groin.
A rear plate on the lower back covers the liver, base of the lungs and with an upwards projection the base of the spinal column.

The Design is explicitly told not to attempt making this in anyway bullet proof

D3: Minor re-design of the POAC in order to allow for housing of the new radio. Possibly other fun stuff.
D4:

Spoiler: Radar System (click to show/hide)

I am unfamiliar with the specifics behind a good Radar System, so I'll just give some general ideas on it could be like:

Large. We could put them on ships or as installations on the peaks and shores of our island chain as an early warning.
Effective. We want it to actually be able to discover and track targets at range.

and that's all I can really say about it. Again, I don't know the specifics like frequency and stuff behind a good radar.

Construct

C1: Place 40mm AA and HiLo guns in and around our industrial complex in the event of an airborne attack.
C2: One two-Line Munitions Factory
C3: One two-line Large Arms Factory
   C3.1: Two two-line Large Arms Factories

Acquire

A1: Acquire sea mines for development of our own.

Other

F1:

Spoiler: Coleslaw's Factory Assignments (click to show/hide)

Workshop G1 as follows:
- Line 1 : AATSM1933 'HiLo'
- Line 2 : M1932 40mmAAA Cannon

Factory G1 as follows:
- Line 1 : AEM1932 (Ship Engine)
- Line 2 : M-C-M1936 (Gas Mask)
- Line 3 : ATHM1933

Factory G2 as follows:
- Line 1: EAM M1932 mortar
- Line 2: C-V-45-M1935
- Line 3: C-M-C-L-M1936 (Gas Mask Filter)

Factory G3 as follows:
- Line 1: SHM1935 (Helmets)
- Line 2: SHM1935 (Helmets)

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Factory V1 as follows:
- Line 1: SDE M1933 (engine)
- Line 2: SDE M1933 (engine)

Factory V2 as follows:
- Line 1: POAC-H
- Line 2: POAC-L

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Factory N1 as follows:
- Line 1: FACM1934 "Shockwave" (Fast attack craft)
- Line 2: CDV M1933 Coastal Defense Vessel

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Factory M1 as follows:
- Line 1: 18 inch torpedoes
- Line 2: CA-AAA-M1935 ammo

Factory M2 as follows:
- Line 1: 7.62x54Rmm
- Line 2: 40 mm Ammunition

Factory M3 as follows:
- Line 1: 7.62x54Rmm
- Line 2: ATHM ammunition

Factory M4 as follows:
- Line 1: .45 ACP ammunition
- Line 2: 'Hilo' Ammunition

Factory M5 as follows:
- Line 1: 45mm Shells
- Line 2: Mortar shells

Factory M6 as follows:
- Line 1: G-H-M1935
- Line 2: Bombs

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Factory E1 as follows:
- Line 1: R-N-M1936
- Line 2: R-V-M1935

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Factory SA1 as follows:
- Line 1: SM1911/34
- Line 2: SM1911/34
- Line 3: MM1934
- Line 4: SMM1934 Double
- Line 5: MM1934
- Line 6: RM1891
- Line 7: RM1891
- Line 8: RM1891

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Factory LA1 as follows:
- Line 1: AATSM1933 'HiLo'
- Line 2: CA-AAA-M1935

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Factory A1
- Line 1: HGAAM1934 "Baklan" (Heavy dive bomber)
- Line 2: I-C-M1936 (Fighter)

Factory AM1
- Line 1: AEM1933 "Hurricane" (Aircraft engine)
- Line 2: AEM1933 "Hurricane" (Aircraft engine)

[Aseaheru]

 You can develop your own radar, but it may not work. Generic factories can make 10 EAM1932 a turn.

 Also, C1 is probably going to turn into "construct defenses around the factory complex containing 40mm cannon and HiLos".

Oh, and as D3 stands now, thats a small project.  Which means if you only shove one team on it, and let them have the whole turn, they will probably make you a command vehicle, along with other fun variants.

[coleslaw35]

You can develop your own radar, but it may not work.

Hm. Well alright then. I suppose it's worth a try considering our Electronics team won't be doing anything else unless we get something suggested for them. I'll add it to the list.

Generic factories can make 10 EAM1932 a turn.

Oh ok, that's plenty then.

Also, C1 is probably going to turn into "construct defenses around the factory complex containing 40mm cannon and HiLos".

Alright, I'll go ahead and change it.

Oh, and as D3 stands now, thats a small project.  *in transparent text* Which means if you only shove one team on it, and let them have the whole turn, they will probably make you a command vehicle, along with other fun variants.

OoooOoooh. Fun.

[3_14159]

The AEM1932. I actually did forget this was what we were using, lol. Haven't we been making ships all this time? Are we just manufacturing floating weapons platforms? Yikes. Could be a bigger mess-up than we think.

Nope, they're using other engines. At least, as far as I know.

Pi asked me a question via PM, but as it is rather important to the game I am going to post sections of it here.

 Namely, the part on production capabilities of the M-1/MM1934.

...200 for a standard generic factory, 300 for a small arms line, and 100 for a totally different factory. So specialized factories have a bonus of 50% and non-related ones of -50%

And, as a preview on what I'm doing, here's the automated summary for 1933.5:

Code: [Select]

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TURN 2: 1933.5
Industry assignments:
Large Workshop
Large Workshop 0 (small-arms): RM1891 (200 per round)
Large Workshop 1 (small-arms): 7.62x54mm rounds (1 per round)
Large Factory 1
Large Factory 1 0 (None): retool
Large Factory 1 1 (None): retool
Large Factory 1 2 (None): retool
Large Factory 2
Large Factory 2 0 (None): retool
Large Factory 2 1 (None): retool
Large Factory 2 2 (None): retool
Medium Vehicle Factory
Medium Vehicle Factory 0 (vehicle): retool

Industry production:
7.62x54mm rounds: 1.5
RM1891: 300.0

Stocks:
RM1891: 2000
RM1891: 2000
7.62x54mm rounds: 1.5
SM1895: 550
Karp-class submarine: 1
MM1911: 50
T-18 light tank: 6
T-18 gun: 0
T-18 engine: 0
Ofery-class destroyer: 1
CDV M1933: 1
SDE M1933: 4
Ray Class HSCS: 1
It's going to be slow to write everything up, and the code is a mess, but it works.

Yes it was.

Alright cool, so let's just plant some 40mm AA guns and some HiLo's. Easy.

Agreed.

Also, let me think about proposals. What do we have, what do we need?
Generally speaking, we have four teams available. One naval, one aero, one gun engineering and one electronics team. This suggests we pick a naval design, fix the plane (or construct another one), possibly build a gun, and do something with electronics.

Dammit, coleslaw, you were faster! I've used my own proposals to add to yours.

D4: Search radar Mk. 1
Our first radar. Uses a rotating antenna (5rpm) to fix both sea and air targets. The range goal is about 50-150km for planes (dependant on altitude and size) and about 40kms for surface targets. Since it's a search radar, accuracy is not that important, with a goal of about 100 meters. Keeping the weight under two tons should be doable.

D3.2: POAC redesign
The POAC system is fairly easy to modify. So, let's do that. First priority is to updrade the POAC to Mk. 2 standards. This mostly means including the radio. If possible, make the armour changeable.
Afterwards, concentrate on the following variants (in order of priority):
- Command: POAC-LC, include space for bigger radio.
- Mortar Carrier: POAC-LM, include ammo rack and mortar (EAM 1932) mount
- Logistics: POAC-LL. Exclude everything but cargo space (well, keep the engine, driver etc...) and remove as much of the armour as possible.
- Anti-Tank: POAC-LA. Mount a HiLo cannon in a fixed configuration.

If anyone has other ideas, feel free to include them.

Also, Aseaheru: Why did the plane include only 60 shots for the cannons? Is there another reason but low rolls?

Construction C4: C/C facilities
Construct, on or near the peaks of our islands, radio/radar stations. Include anti-air defenses (20mm, 40mm, 105mm) and some defensive bunkers.

You're all too faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast!

Designs
D1 Fire storm interceptor
D2 Splinter Vest
D3.1 Minor redesign of the POAC
D3.2 Minor redesign and variants of the POAC
D4 RADAR system

Construct

C1: Place 40mm AA and HiLo guns in and around our industrial complex in the event of an airborne attack.
C2: One two-Line Munitions Factory
C3: One two-line Large Arms Factory
   C3.1: Two two-line Large Arms Factories
C4: Radar stations

Acquire

A1: Acquire sea mines for development of our own.

Other

F1: Coleslaw's factory plan