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[Salkryn]

And the import/export screen now says terror and vengeance like it does with goblin civs. The strange thing is that I've been trading with the elves for years at this point and never even received an ultimatum for cutting down too many trees. Is this normal?

[Astrid]

There's more than one elven civilisation, and you are at war with one of them.

As an compensation you might want to start war with the other one as well.

[Salkryn]

No, only one elf civ on the screen, and I recognize the name so I'm sure it's the same one. I'm wondering if this might be related to the forgotten beast that invaded the upper cavern level and set everything there on fire. That burnt a lot of trees down, so maybe that's the cause? I was just wondering about the terror/vengeance thing, since I'd only ever seen that on goblin civilizations, but then again I've never been at war before.

[Astrid]

No, it wasnt that beasts fault, more so because no elven diplomat has seen that yet i guess.

That's a little strange.

[Salkryn]

Outpost liaison (a filthy goblin) came with the autumn caravan and the only news he reported was a site takeover by a group I'm unfamiliar with. No mention of a war declaration or a sudden change in power. The elves also don't appear to have had any change in leadership. No ambushes or anything else to report. Updates as this continues to unfold.

[Dirst]

Outpost liaison (a filthy goblin) came with the autumn caravan and the only news he reported was a site takeover by a group I'm unfamiliar with. No mention of a war declaration or a sudden change in power. The elves also don't appear to have had any change in leadership. No ambushes or anything else to report. Updates as this continues to unfold.

Dwarf and Elf ethics are different enough that one would attack the other if it perceived a big enough advantage.  Did your civ lose a bunch of sites to goblins or something?

Or it could be a bugged save.

[Salkryn]

Outpost liaison only mentioned one site being taken over, so I don't think that's the case. There's a whole slew of baronies listed in my civilization, so I'm baffled. I'll post again when spring rolls around. Maybe they'll send an ambush or a diplomat or something.

[Salkryn]

Well, spring passed with no elven siege or caravan, although I did have my first goblin siege. Unfortunately for them, I had a well-established military with high quality steel equipment and they were quickly dispatched. So, at the very least they aren't sending traders anymore. I'm still unsure what sparked the war, though.

[skyte100]

Well, spring passed with no elven siege or caravan, although I did have my first goblin siege. Unfortunately for them, I had a well-established military with high quality steel equipment and they were quickly dispatched. So, at the very least they aren't sending traders anymore. I'm still unsure what sparked the war, though.

"The treatement of plants. There is also the matter of their godlessness." My most common reasons for anyone to have trouble with elves.

[utunnels]

Dwarf king: So why are we at war?
Elf king: In a time before time, you ancestors sold my father a x(troll fur socket)x decorated with clear glass gems.
Dwarf king: I don't see a problem.
Elf king: Neither do I. But I recall my father said something like "Pur Lash".

[Salkryn]

So, we're a couple of years later now, and I'm still listed as at war with the elves, but they've never sent any attacks. I have been facing a couple of goblin sieges, though.

[blue sam3]

If you stick the save on DFFD or somewhere, I'll trawl through the legends and try to figure out what's happening if you like.

[skyte100]

If you stick the save on DFFD or somewhere, I'll trawl through the legends and try to figure out what's happening if you like.

If I was him Id just copy the save, retire the copy, and look myself.

[Putnam]

You are not your entire dwarf civ, y'know. Another site entirely could give offense to the elves.