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[DizzyCrash]

What is it about Reptile man that make them likely to join societies and become vampires and live in sewers and near human cities in caves and make them generally really common, but other intelligant creatures do not? why not gnomes and such, creatures without civilizations or anything...

Also why do they often spawn without spears and such without a entity file?

Hey while on the subject, what text file is there information in?

[scamtank]

Gnomes can't speak, for one.

[vjmdhzgr]

What is it about Reptile man that make them likely to join societies and become vampires and live in sewers and near human cities in caves and make them generally really common, but other intelligant creatures do not? why not gnomes and such, creatures without civilizations or anything...

Also why do they often spawn without spears and such without a entity file?

Hey while on the subject, what text file is there information in?

They do have an entity file. At the bottom of entity_default, SUBTERRANEAN_ANIMAL_PEOPLES

[Eric Blank]

Gnomes will never spawn with clothes or weapons because they are wild animals as far as the game is concerned; animals don't spawn with any items, sans megabeasts like minotaurs which are living in a lair, and therefore treated as a separate case.
Reptile men and the other subterranean animal people are part of an entity already; they're no longer considered animals, and members of one entity can move to another entity's site (the subterranean animal people don't even have sites, though, and in most ways are very limited and don't act like an entity. Nobody else ever comes to visit them.

And no, gnomes can't talk. Talking is very important to DF.

[DizzyCrash]

Gnomes will never spawn with clothes or weapons because they are wild animals as far as the game is concerned; animals don't spawn with any items, sans megabeasts like minotaurs which are living in a lair, and therefore treated as a separate case.
Reptile men and the other subterranean animal people are part of an entity already; they're no longer considered animals, and members of one entity can move to another entity's site (the subterranean animal people don't even have sites, though, and in most ways are very limited and don't act like an entity. Nobody else ever comes to visit them.

And no, gnomes can't talk. Talking is very important to DF.

Do entities need to be subteranian to be considered tribal and without interaction with the other civs? Or can you have groups of animal people living above ground without a kingdom.

[DizzyCrash]

Minotors seem to have a token called    [HABIT:USE_ANY_MELEE_WEAPON:100] If i give that to a random creature will they start using mellee weapons?

[scamtank]

Pretty sure that HABIT tags are restricted to megabeasts.

[Eric Blank]

Exactly. One thing I haven't tried is using that on a dangerous wild animal, hoping one kills somebody and becomes a historic figure and visiting its lair in game, so maybe if it has hands that would still work. But most of the time habits are only used by megabeasts and night creatures.

And no, you won't get above ground tribes. I actually tried that, and they never showed up. What you can do is copy the kobold entity definition and use other creatures with that. They wouldn't interact much except to steal (you can remove the tag that does that too) and they'll live as a tribe in a natural cave.

Toady plans to do proper nomadic/tribal civs above ground eventually, we just don't know when.

[DizzyCrash]

If I add a weapon to a entity file like daggers to dwarves that will allow Dagger dwarves to spawn right? I want to make sure I can spawn soldiers that will weild knives other than goblins.

[vjmdhzgr]

If I add a weapon to a entity file like daggers to dwarves that will allow Dagger dwarves to spawn right? I want to make sure I can spawn soldiers that will weild knives other than goblins.

Yes.

[Enemy post]

If you want gnome societies, it wouldn't be hard to make a civ for them.