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Author Topic: Bay12 Census 2015 -- Question committee, survey now live  (Read 8778 times)

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Re: Bay12 Census 2015 -- Question committee!
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2015, 09:32:27 am »

Height.

Just to see if a community based around dwarves is populated by dwarves. Also science.
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Re: Bay12 Census 2015 -- Question committee!
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2015, 05:46:56 pm »

Aren't liberal economic views pro-regulation?
No. "Liberal" only means "left wing" in that sense in the 'states. Classical liberalism espoused, among other things, free-market capitalism.

Basically there are too goddamn many ideological divides to fit into one question. Here's a suggestion:

Economic Ideology: Set it on a 5-point scale from Full Free Market to Full Government Control. The spectrum between market and command economies is basically that once you strip away the fluff, and it avoids the issues of people meaning different things with the same words.

Political Ideology: You probably can't base this one on a five-point scale as well, but give options something along the lines of: Anarchist, Marxist, Anarcho-Syndicalist, Leninist, Stalinist, Maoist, Republican, Direct Democrat, Federalist, Socialist, Democratic Socialist, Monarchist, Theocrat, Technocrat, Plutocrat, Fascist, Absolutist Authoritarian, Imperialist....

Yeah, that's why it's fucking impossible to make an accurate metric in that vein, even without the bleedover into economic ideology. Here's a couple simpler questions: Government should be: As small as possible, filling as few functions as possible <-> As large as necessary to fulfill as many functions as it can; Not at all active in social, cultural, and moral matters <-> As active as possible in social, cultural, and moral matters; Should not provide any aide to its citizens <-> Should provide as much aide as possible to its citizens.

Or something like that. Socio-economic-political ideologies are both absolutely fascinating and an immense pain to work with, for much the same reasons. If you were really going to do these issues in a meaningful way, it'd be a multipage survey just for this stuff.
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Re: Bay12 Census 2015 -- Question committee!
« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2015, 05:50:35 pm »

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Here's a couple simpler questions: Government should be: As small as possible, filling as few functions as possible <-> As large as necessary to fulfill as many functions as it can; Not at all active in social, cultural, and moral matters <-> As active as possible in social, cultural, and moral matters; Should not provide any aide to its citizens <-> Should provide as much aide as possible to its citizens.
That's a very elegant solution, +1.
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Re: Bay12 Census 2015 -- Question committee!
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2015, 05:53:57 pm »

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Re: Bay12 Census 2015 -- Question committee!
« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2015, 06:02:43 pm »

Because as we've covered, it's very hard to sort those into a readable format for 100+ answers.
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Re: Bay12 Census 2015 -- Question committee!
« Reply #50 on: April 27, 2015, 09:56:40 pm »

Here's an initial draft of the questions.

Haven't included the political one yet. Feedback on wording, options etc would be appreciated, and which possible secondary question for mental disorders would be preferred.
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Re: Bay12 Census 2015 -- Question committee!
« Reply #51 on: April 28, 2015, 03:28:36 am »

What is the meaning of 3, and how is it different from 4?
10 says drop down, but surely you need to be able to choose several options. Maybe some check-boxes?
In 19, I'm sure I'm just being lazy, but what's the difference between NEET and unemployed?
I'm in favor of 25, but then I always liked Bigger Data.
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« Reply #52 on: April 28, 2015, 03:47:53 am »

Oh,  I forgot that you can't multiple choice in dropdowns while you can do that in a textbox using commas... I am not sure there is an elegant way to solve this problem =. =

19: Willfully unemployed and not lolooking for a job, as opposed to being unemployed because of something out of your circumstances. I might have to clarify that..
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Re: Bay12 Census 2015 -- Question committee!
« Reply #53 on: April 28, 2015, 06:22:26 am »

Maybe I misunderstood something, but 2 seems entirely redundant if 1 is a calendar select
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Re: Bay12 Census 2015 -- Question committee!
« Reply #54 on: April 28, 2015, 08:01:27 am »

NEET means Not Employed, Educated or Trained.
Which means that the only difference unemployed seems to have is that you're not being trained.


Also, there's no option on 19 for people who are employed?

Also rather than Sex/Gender probably stick with PenguinofHonor's Cis Male/Cis Female/Trans Male/Trans Female/Other list imo.
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« Reply #55 on: May 04, 2015, 02:56:19 am »

Maybe I misunderstood something, but 2 seems entirely redundant if 1 is a calendar select
Very true--I don't know if Google Forms has a calendar select, though, so that's just in case.

Also, there's no option on 19 for people who are employed?

Also rather than Sex/Gender probably stick with PenguinofHonor's Cis Male/Cis Female/Trans Male/Trans Female/Other list imo.
I fixed 19 and combined sex/gender as PoH suggested.


So, if there's no other question ideas or things to edit, I'll create the form! Potentially by this weekend.
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« Reply #56 on: May 04, 2015, 07:24:52 am »

Maybe I misunderstood something, but 2 seems entirely redundant if 1 is a calendar select
Very true--I don't know if Google Forms has a calendar select, though, so that's just in case.

Also, there's no option on 19 for people who are employed?

Also rather than Sex/Gender probably stick with PenguinofHonor's Cis Male/Cis Female/Trans Male/Trans Female/Other list imo.
I fixed 19 and combined sex/gender as PoH suggested.


So, if there's no other question ideas or things to edit, I'll create the form! Potentially by this weekend.

MAJOR edit needed.

Learning disabilities (ex, ADHD or Down Syndrome) are not mental disorders (ex, bipolar or schizophrenia).  They are very fundamentally different, and question 22 needs to be split into 2 questions at the very least.
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« Reply #57 on: May 04, 2015, 07:49:28 am »

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« Reply #58 on: May 04, 2015, 07:54:39 am »


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Re: Bay12 Census 2015 -- Question committee!
« Reply #59 on: May 04, 2015, 08:37:52 am »

MAJOR edit needed.

Learning disabilities (ex, ADHD or Down Syndrome) are not mental disorders (ex, bipolar or schizophrenia).  They are very fundamentally different, and question 22 needs to be split into 2 questions at the very least.
I strongly disagree, at least for ADHD. ADHD is one of the textbook mental disorders, in fact, and it fits pretty much every definition of a mental disorder you could think of. I did put ADHD as a separate entry from schizophrenia and mood disorders, and I think that is good enough. Can you convince me that ADHD is not an actual mental disorder and something else?

As for Down's syndrome... this might sound a bit callous but I doubt that anyone taking the survey has Down's syndrome. :/

Trans male and trans female are both included within male and female. The options should be "Cis male, cis female, trans male, trans female, other."

I thought that the "cis" is implied by the separate presence of "trans" male/female... would you disagree? If yes, why?



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