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King and queen wear crown, as miners wield pick
« on: April 21, 2015, 09:01:19 pm »

King and queen should have crown as their uniform. Baron and other nobles should probably also wear certain jewelry. This would provide a usage of jewelry.
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Re: King and queen wear crown, as miners wield pick
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2015, 10:53:48 pm »

There could be a token in the position raws determining the symbol of office.
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If the item can be worn, they wear it; otherwise they carry it around.  It could be an item with any material, an item with a specific material, or any item with a specific material, though that last one would be rather odd.  If multiple required items are listed, the position should probably be able to use any of them, rather than wanting all of them at once.

It might also be nice to require specific decorations on the required item.  Gold crown encrusted with gemstones for the monarch?  There could be a required value token, too.
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Re: King and queen wear crown, as miners wield pick
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2015, 10:55:56 pm »

That would depend on the culture as well, as the game currently has people from distinct cultures sporting different garments. I guess in some cultures the nobility would prefer to wear different headgear to distinguish themselves, such as turbans or masks. Maybe even a different hairstyle. I don't know...

Anyway, I think it's more or less planned...
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Re: King and queen wear crown, as miners wield pick
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2015, 02:15:43 am »

+1. I especially like the idea of being able to define what item is required very specifically.
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Re: King and queen wear crown, as miners wield pick
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2015, 07:48:30 am »

There could be a token in the position raws determining the symbol of office.
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[REQUIRED_ITEM:item type:item subtype:material]
If the item can be worn, they wear it; otherwise they carry it around.  It could be an item with any material, an item with a specific material, or any item with a specific material, though that last one would be rather odd.  If multiple required items are listed, the position should probably be able to use any of them, rather than wanting all of them at once.

It might also be nice to require specific decorations on the required item.  Gold crown encrusted with gemstones for the monarch?  There could be a required value token, too.

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Re: King and queen wear crown, as miners wield pick
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2015, 08:02:51 am »

I think dwarves should change their clothes and equipment for more than just militia duties. If that's in place then as well as kings wearing their crown to audiences you could also have dwarves putting on rings and amulets when they go to socialise at the tavern/hold meetings, or switching out their *cave spider silk* outfit for leathers when they go to work at the forge. It would make it easier to have other kinds of tools in play as well if dwarves would switch them out based on their job rather than carry them constantly. At the least, miners would be able to work in shifts.
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Re: King and queen wear crown, as miners wield pick
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2015, 01:02:54 pm »

Nobles in general need to start dressing more lavishly for the position they hold. I always found it bizarre that my local noble is A-OK to wear the exact same set of clothes that the rest of the peasantry wears. Like others have already said, having some culturally-linked garments would be nice, but I also feel that it should partially depend on personality. A noble who is extremely modest wouldn't wear the same clothes as their more extravagant counterparts.
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Re: King and queen wear crown, as miners wield pick
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2015, 06:44:50 pm »

Nobles in general need to start dressing more lavishly for the position they hold. I always found it bizarre that my local noble is A-OK to wear the exact same set of clothes that the rest of the peasantry wears. Like others have already said, having some culturally-linked garments would be nice, but I also feel that it should partially depend on personality. A noble who is extremely modest wouldn't wear the same clothes as their more extravagant counterparts.

Maybe their clothing will have to be a certain quality and/or garnished with jewels or studded?
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Re: King and queen wear crown, as miners wield pick
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2015, 07:06:56 pm »

Or coloured with hard to manufacture and valuable dyes.
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Re: King and queen wear crown, as miners wield pick
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2015, 07:15:28 pm »

I would like to see all jewelry wearable.

And then nobles get jealous of citizens wearing better stuff.
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Re: King and queen wear crown, as miners wield pick
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2015, 10:04:58 pm »

I would like to see all jewelry wearable.

And then nobles get jealous of citizens wearing better stuff.
I believe jewelry is wearable in adventurer mode, and is worn by people who have killed things then turned their bones into jewelry. I think actually it's just crafts that are wearable, which makes it a bit weird when mods like masterwork change the crafts to things like dice so you find people wearing dice on their head.
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Re: King and queen wear crown, as miners wield pick
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2015, 12:46:44 pm »

Nobles in general need to start dressing more lavishly for the position they hold. I always found it bizarre that my local noble is A-OK to wear the exact same set of clothes that the rest of the peasantry wears. Like others have already said, having some culturally-linked garments would be nice, but I also feel that it should partially depend on personality. A noble who is extremely modest wouldn't wear the same clothes as their more extravagant counterparts.

This sounds like it would be Dwarven Economy related. 

If the noble position requires a crown item, the noble should be able to request a certain quality, as they do with rooms.  That way, your king will demand jewel encrusted gold crown, while your peasants can wear the left over crowns. 
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Re: King and queen wear crown, as miners wield pick
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2015, 04:08:32 pm »

I'd rather it were a function of a uniform that you the player set for them, rather than some demand of the office written into the raws.  I like the idea of being able to designate a royal regalia consisting of whatever you'd like, including the royal adamantine battle axe, the artifact golden signet ring bearing the insignia of your civilization, a purple dyed masterwork silk cloak, and a scepter of platinum, while at the same time, on a completely different fortress, having your king decked out in an elf bone crown and a cloak made from the leather of their war elephants.
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Re: King and queen wear crown, as miners wield pick
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2015, 05:26:36 pm »

I would olve the idea of being able to give stuff to dwarves to wear anyway, at all, and think this would be great even without loads of additionals. Obviously, source of happy thoughts AND use for crafts, so useful.
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Re: King and queen wear crown, as miners wield pick
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2015, 05:41:54 pm »

I'd rather it were a function of a uniform that you the player set for them, rather than some demand of the office written into the raws.  I like the idea of being able to designate a royal regalia consisting of whatever you'd like, including the royal adamantine battle axe, the artifact golden signet ring bearing the insignia of your civilization, a purple dyed masterwork silk cloak, and a scepter of platinum, while at the same time, on a completely different fortress, having your king decked out in an elf bone crown and a cloak made from the leather of their war elephants.

Not the worst idea. Maybe having it somewhat like the way the Militia screen works now, where you can either let dwarves do what they want or get all micromanagey? If nobles like particular materials you could give them regalia made of those things though, and I wouldn't be against them requesting particular items to wear informally. ("Bloody gold crown. You know how heavy they are? 'Course a queen needs her crown, but I say, if I'm not meeting Lord Hobnob from under-the-mountain, why not something nice and light? And bollix to those who say it's elfy. This is fungiwood, it is.")

It wouldn't be bad to have other noble positions with their own finery as well. Only trouble is that starts getting tricky to control - it would make more sense to allow players to get specific with their crown-and-jewelery crafting in that case. Although it's never made much sense to have dwarves mass-producing crowns.
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