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[Johann Canteloupe]

Hi all,

I've been playing a fortress for a while now, and knowing there was a necromancer tower in close proximity, decided to retire it so I could have a adventurer go and collect a become a necromancer + take a souvenir and come back as a necro.

I've since succeeded with this, having had my now necro adventurer retire at the fort.

I have one issue though, in that he doesn't raise any undead.

He's been left in a room, in full health, where he can raise undead, with corpses being dumped on him from above via a hatch. The corpses have landed suitably, but he just doesn't seem interested.

The only thing I can think of is that perhaps the cage traps that they landed on may prevent this working, but as far as I'm aware that isn't the case.

Does anyone have an idea as to what's going on?

Thanks,

DK

[BlackFlyme]

Are the corpses mangled? Necromancers cannot raise pulped bodies.

[Naryar]

it must be the fact that he is an adventurer necro instead of a fortress mode necro

[Johann Canteloupe]

Just a quick update, I went back to it and he had eventually raised it, including some body parts. I put some more down there, but he seems to have decided not to again. Maybe Necros just take longer to raise dead in this version?

[Staalo]

I pondered the same thing in my fortress and found out that my captured invader necros only raised things when they saw one of my dwarves. Maybe the raising is considered an attack and will not be used except in hostile intent.

If your retired necromancer is actually a citizen of the fortress you could try to flash him some goblins and see what happens.

[Ianflow]

I hear they make pills for necromancers that can't raise these days

[Max™]

I hear they make pills for necromancers that can't raise these days

CURSE YOU, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A NECROCIALIS JOKE!

ARGH!

*stomps off punting kittens and eating babies*

[Johann Canteloupe]

I've been testing him out now, and it seems that he is willing to raise undead, but it's something he only seems to want to do it when he's off duty, he won't if he's an active soldier.

I hear they make pills for necromancers that can't raise these days

Now now, let's not encourage necrophilia.

[k9wazere]

I've been testing him out now, and it seems that he is willing to raise undead, but it's something he only seems to want to do it when he's off duty, he won't if he's an active soldier.

He's a weak-end necromancer Maybe the weight of his helmet prevents him raising with his uniform on?

The innuendo potential here is just enormous!

[Terribleness]

I've been testing him out now, and it seems that he is willing to raise undead, but it's something he only seems to want to do it when he's off duty, he won't if he's an active soldier.

Hmm, this is interesting. If Necromancers treat raising the dead like Nobles treat their noble position active responsibilities (i.e. they won't do it if on active military duty) then the (almost) all necromancer fortress I'm trying to make will be vastly easier to manage.

[TheHossofMoss]

I hear they make pills for necromancers that can't raise these days

CURSE YOU, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A NECROCIALIS JOKE!

ARGH!

*stomps off punting kittens and eating babies*

Can I sig this? :3

[Johann Canteloupe]

Okay, done some more finagling to see how necros are working with 2014.

As mentioned, mangling seems to prevent the ability of a necro to raise undead, to the point where mangleable injuries are pretty easy (Any sort of slashing wounds seem to do it, but you can get away with perceiving and mild blunt damage). Anything that seperates them, or even makes a individual body part unusable counts.

This is likely partly responsible for the delay, but it seems he is more willing to raise when off duty. I might be wrong but I think I have seen him once raise as a soldier. What I am noticing is that every time he does raise things, it requires him to stand in the same square. Not sure what that's about. 

Additionally it seems that undead dwarves cannot be Pitted. Not sure if this is something from the previous version and I never noticed though. As it is the only way I can get them to a location is by dragging the cage, then releasing them.


In other news, is it just me, or has crossbows taken a bit of a bit of a nerfing? I recently was in adventure mode and was having iron bolts being soaked up by leather armour.

[Johann Canteloupe]

Okay, just was adventuring around the fort I'm using for necromancy. Apparently one of the previous undead I raised which escaped when I retired was roaming around.

As a necromancer, it ignored me, but I did get to watch the following amusing interaction:



The image of a severed arm hitting an eagle with a shoe with such force its head explodes tickled me no end.

[Max™]

I hear they make pills for necromancers that can't raise these days

CURSE YOU, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A NECROCIALIS JOKE!

ARGH!

*stomps off punting kittens and eating babies*

Can I sig this? :3

I do not need to be asked to be sigged, by all means.

[Dwarf4Explosives]

PTW. I need !!SCIENCE!! on this.