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[Neonivek]

Ok then, I shall be fair then

https://youtu.be/njvgKUSR8Ss?t=3h50m39s

Ok so I was wrong about Lava, Goku blocks it with his Ki shield. He ran from the lava later on because he had no energy left and was back in normal form, and thus had no ki shield.

Not that saying "Ki does it" is a knock against Goku. Back in the Dragon Ball arc the only reason they could survive the Dodo Ray is because their mastery of Ki lets them deflect it, it was one of the reasons why they completely surpass that character.

But that is the general power of the Death ball. Notice how it didn't manage to destroy that house right in the open... oddly.

And before you say "But see, that means it destroyed the crust" no, that is from "Destroy the Earth". Any blow to the earth causes lava to erupt.

https://youtu.be/njvgKUSR8Ss?t=3h57m38s

And here you will see Frieza getting seriously hurt by an attack that is so powerful it makes her... kind of skid across the floor. (Uhhh I mislinked)

But I am being silly. But it isn't like DBZ never broke had somehow devastating blows barely knock someone back.

(Oddly in spite being a mislink it works too given Frieza almost dies from a blow so powerful! she... kind of gets knocked up a bit)

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Actually you know what is funny?

You want to know a character who HAS just flown through several miles of rock and through the mantle completely unharmed?

Captain Planet.

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Note that I know I am being unfair with Superman I KNOW that you cannot take single feats a character has done and attribute that to their ability.

The reason Superman can fly away from that Blackhole is because the show isn't realistic to science. It is why Hypersonic was able to run out a blackhole...

But I just am tired when Goku gets a pass when Superman doesn't because ultimately of the different ways those shows are framed.

Say you believe Goku could beat Superman, but don't reinterpret his abilities because the writers didn't make his punches cause people to fly into space.

As for sources... Nope can't get any. Though I'd just about dare you to even find the episode I am referring to and link it.

At least, I can't get any sources I can link anyhow.

[LordBucket]

You want to know a character who HAS just flown through several miles of rock and through the mantle completely unharmed?

Captain Planet.

I'd just about dare you to even find the episode I am referring to and link it.

Captain Planet, Episode 23: "Mission to Save Earth Part Two"

Direct link to 37:30 of video

[Neonivek]

OPPS! I didn't mean that one XD

Ohh well I am being a total Jerk LordBucket

I am sorry, about everything. I really am.

[LordBucket]

Thank you.

Here's a bunny:

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[Neonivek]

I dunno, once the frustration and anger subsided there wasn't much fuel for the fire anymore.

[Frumple]

... it's completely tangential to the discussion and mostly off-topic, but... wasn't frieza male, neo?

[NullForceOmega]

I'm unsure that Frieza has a proper gender, but all of the American media (including the funimation translations) refers to Frieza as 'he/him'

[Neonivek]

Frieza is male (though... he may just be masculine rather then male)

I just like to call him a She.

[Andres]

Goku is vulnerable to heart disease so he could theoretically be vulnerable to poisons and toxins as well.

Also glad you guys stopped arguing.

From that video, it looks like Goku hit the lava without prior shielding so he probably does have some kind of environmental resistance. Vegeta certainly has some amount of environmental resistance.

[LordBucket]

wasn't frieza male

Yes, but he spoke with feminine grammar in the original Japanese. It didn't translate well, so they gave him a female voice actress in the english dub.

[zchris13]

Lord Bucket had a really interesting post going there but then he linked to TVTropes and that just destroyed all of his credibility and instantly cemented him as a memespewing 12 year old instead of the intelligent, reasonable adult all the other evidence suggests he is, so I award the fight to Wonder Woman because I have been brainwashed by the Marstonian message.

But in all seriousness, if I were writing this crossover, I would have Goku and Superman be fairly evenly matched because they're fictitious and it would be more interesting that way, until at the end Wondy and the MM have befriended Vegeta and Piccollo through the power of punching (and maybe bondage) and then (Wally)Flash challenges Goku to an eating contest. The Flash wins due to speedforce but it's close.

The iterations of all the characters I am using are drawn from my own ass and have been created specifically for this amazing crossover. Feel free to crawl up in there and check my sources.

Batman is going to be DickBats; he spends the entire time seducing Lunch and provides the comedy relief because he's way out of his leauge (with the Z Fighters, not Lunch), and Bruce would be a brooding plotting menace and would detract from my artistic vision. I'm still only part of the way through Dragonball so forgive me if Lunch ends up dead or something equally bad like married.

If I didn't mention any other fighters its because they're fighting Orion, because a New God on the JL is an excellent idea, right, and somebody needs to be broody and angsty if Bruce isn't on the team. I dedicate a solid bit of introductory nonsense to Yamcha and Orion slugging it out because Yamcha has the best theme, where as soon as Yamcha is about to lose, the rest of the Z fighters arrive and save him. Big Barda boomtubes in with the JL, who are attempting to stop Orion from being a massive cock and mucking it all up but naturally get caught up in a big misunderstanding, and everybody faces off.

If I were posting from my computer, I'd edit this to flow coherently but I'm on my Wii, so I can't, sorry. Will edit tomorrow morning (this morning?).

[NullForceOmega]

Vegeta has no friends, only family, rivals and flunkies.

[Frumple]

I'm still only part of the way through Dragonball so forgive me if Lunch ends up dead or something equally bad like married.

If google's image search is to be trusted, she appears to have something going on with T-man Three-eyes. If you're going into the realm of crossover fanfiction, though, don't let that stop you. Considering the whole robin thing, B-man could probably be written into an OT3.

... of course, considering the robin thing it might be that Chiaotzu has more to worry about on that front :V

E: uh well

ignore that last bit

it appears chiaotzu is in a committed relationship with an inanimate object

what the hell

[Andres]

If google's image search is to be trusted, she appears to have something going on with T-man Three-eyes.

True, but we see her in one filler episode in DBZ and then never again, ever, except maaaybe when Goku's charging up the Spirit Bomb to beat Kid Buu, but my memory's shaky on that.

[Neonivek]

DragonBall Z has some odd things missing from it that were in Dragonball and Launch (Lunch) is very much one of the big ones.

But then again Dragonball was pretty much the same. Heck Chichi was basically that for the longest time, being introduced as someone much stronger and more powerful than Goku... then disappearing forever and only appearing near the absolute end.

I admit I was disappointed how weak Chichi was when she was reintroduced... It makes sense on a "Goku really improved" sort of way... Then again Women in Dragonball EWWWW!! Get them away! Put them in the kitchen with Android 18! (I am kidding)