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Author Topic: Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - Game over! Town wins!  (Read 35380 times)

Deus Asmoth

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Re: Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - D2 - Loafing around.
« Reply #240 on: April 26, 2015, 06:21:38 pm »

Roo: there were several questions in that post you just quoted. You've answered none of them, nor have you provided any sources to back up the various empty claims I've pointed out. Would you care to do so, or do you 'just wanna talk and not play'? I won't answer your question about who's town and who is scum, for a couple of reasons. Firstly, labelling people as one faction or the other just leads to confirmation bias, so I'm trying to avoid doing it. Secondly, the phrase 'money where your mouth is' seems applicable. I'm apparently the scummiest person in the thread. Why? Why is 4mask definitely town? Which of your three scum reads do you think isn't scum? Do you justify any of your thoughts, or is that just too much talk and not enough play for you?

If you want my abridged thoughts on various people, they're as follows:
Roo: Second highest post count in the thread. Normally a town indicator, but his post count is artificially inflated by the fact that he strings three or four posts together at a time. A lot of his posts also seem to be devoted to pointless posturing, and his votes and reads have no justification behind them. Reads seem to be generated via {choose random player for X. X is definitely town. choose random player for Y. Y is scummy. If a player disagrees with me, they are automatically designated as Y}. Questionable assumption that any form of interrogation means that the person asking a question wants to vote for you.
TDS: Low postcount, reasonable considering he's a replacement. Almost all of his interaction has been with either Tea or Roo, who he merged into the superbeing Rootea (ally of Rootbeer). Jokes aside, an inclination towards short posts and confusing two players hints at a disengagement from the game. Not necessarily a scum indicator, but it definitely doesn't help the town. Doesn't seem to be pushing any cases, more interested in poking holes in Tea's case on him.
Tea: Highest post count. Also seems to enjoy multi-posting. Pushing a case on TDS is a town lean for me, since scum are generally more inclined to let someone do the hard work and be second or third on the wagon. I'd be suspicious about the large number of posts he has on the subject of TDS, but he's definitely paying attention to the other players as well, so that's nice.
Origami: Is replacing out because of business, which is sad since we normally have to kill each other. In any case, an unusually (particularly for him) low postcount. For now, I'm willing to wait on his replacement (perhaps we'll even get a full rotation of subs in).
Dorsi: Interaction with multiple people is good. I'd question whether it's suspicious to anticipate the D1 extension that seems to be the default play here by voting for it early.


Tea: if you bear in mind that asking the participants of a disagreement leads to inevitable bias on both sides, my understanding of my and roo's interaction is as follows: roo disagreed with Dorsi on the Bay12 meta shortly after I replaced in. I asked roo what his understanding of it was, which he refused to answer. roo has since accused me of bias against him, cherry picking his posts, linking him to scum (he has yet to explain how he knows who the scum are or how I linked them to him) and personally disliking him. He has also refused to back up any of this with any form of substance, and is also ignoring any questions I put to him.

As for roo not making sense, I don't see that as meaning he's scum. I think he's certainly acting scummy with his question dodging, unfounded accusations and hypersensitivity to questioning, but the not making sense isn't an influence on that aside from indicating an emotional involvement, which could point to either town or scum.

I've done my best to sum up my current thoughts on TDS above, but I only got back to my house a couple of hours ago after being away since Friday, so my thoughts are likely to change after getting more than four hours of sleep.

Origami, what's the difference between anger and aggression on a forum? I appreciate that it may be a difficult one to answer, but that's the difference you've given between roo's scum meta and his town meta, so it does seem like an answer is needed.

Dorsi, since we seem to be going through replacements at a fairly good pace, how much weight do you attach to the predecessor's actions when a new player replaces in? Do you still think OSG was/is intentionally lurking?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - D2 - Loafing around.
« Reply #241 on: April 26, 2015, 07:07:40 pm »

He's not even addressing anything I asked though, lmao. I've asked him like 6 or 8 questions and he'll address one thing at a time by asking more questions to try to discredit "rooTea"
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - D2 - Loafing around.
« Reply #242 on: April 26, 2015, 07:35:01 pm »

Naturally you guys post a crapton in my absence...

roo: I feel like you are a naturally agressive person, but could you tone down the antagonism a bit?  Like, you've surpassed Jim Groovester by an order of magnitude, which is an impressive feat.

I need to read up on what happened...

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Re: Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - D2 - Loafing around.
« Reply #243 on: April 26, 2015, 07:59:11 pm »

Naturally you guys post a crapton in my absence...

roo: I feel like you are a naturally agressive person, but could you tone down the antagonism a bit?  Like, you've surpassed Jim Groovester by an order of magnitude, which is an impressive feat.

I need to read up on what happened...
It tried man I really tried.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - D2 - Loafing around.
« Reply #244 on: April 26, 2015, 10:06:43 pm »

Hey roo, what did you mean by Deus
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trying to connect me to scum, so you'll be justified in disliking [you]
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - D2 - Loafing around.
« Reply #245 on: April 27, 2015, 12:26:58 am »

As far as I can tell, the vote count is still the following. fwiw:

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4maskwolf - (0) -
Deus Asmoth - (0) -
Dorsidwarf - (1) - roo
TheDarkStar - (1) - Tea
origamiscienceguy - (1) - 4maskwolf
roo - (2) - Dorsidwarf, TheDarkStar
Tea - (0) -

I am going to bed soon but will be back in the morning before deadline. I think roo needs to claim. I think Dark Star and origamiscienceguy are more likely to flip scum than the other 2 people with votes on them, but I kinda feel like moving my vote to OSG will just result in tomorrow being a repeat of Today? So I am not sure what is best here; for now, my vote stays.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - D2 - Loafing around.
« Reply #246 on: April 27, 2015, 12:37:18 am »

Sorry for another post, but I don't think the one I just made, made sense. I was considering forcing the tie on OSG and roo and hoping someone would switch, but no lynch is obviously horrible and I'm not particularly confident OSG is scum. If he flips town then the conversation is probably focused on roo Tomorrow anyway. It just feels shitty that a lynch is going through on someone I'm townreading, but hopefully you guys are right.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - D2 - Loafing around.
« Reply #247 on: April 27, 2015, 09:08:57 am »

Vote count:
  • 4maskwolf - (0) -
  • Deus Asmoth - (0) -
  • Dorsidwarf - (1) - roo
  • TheDarkStar - (1) - Tea
  • origamiscienceguy - (1) - 4maskwolf
  • roo - (2) - Dorsidwarf, TheDarkStar
  • Tea - (0) -

Not voting - (2) - Deus Asmoth, origamiscienceguy

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Re: Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - D2 - 1 replacement needed!
« Reply #248 on: April 27, 2015, 11:09:30 am »

Right. I'm going to vote for Roo to avoid last minute vote shenanigans.

I think I'd actually prefer TDS getting lynched for being (as far as I can tell) best case disinterested town or worst case scum trying to skate by under the radar. Confusing the person he's voting for with someone else makes me think he doesn't particularly care who gets lynched, indicating scum. I'll be hanging around until day's end in case someone else comes online, but I don't want to tie the vote with one hour left in the day as far as I can tell.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - D2 - 1 replacement needed!
« Reply #249 on: April 27, 2015, 11:42:22 am »

TDS
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - D2 - 1 replacement needed!
« Reply #250 on: April 27, 2015, 11:45:39 am »

Right. I'm going to vote for Roo to avoid last minute vote shenanigans.

I think I'd actually prefer TDS getting lynched for being (as far as I can tell) best case disinterested town or worst case scum trying to skate by under the radar. Confusing the person he's voting for with someone else makes me think he doesn't particularly care who gets lynched, indicating scum. I'll be hanging around until day's end in case someone else comes online, but I don't want to tie the vote with one hour left in the day as far as I can tell.
Lol I say it here it comes out there.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - D2 - 1 replacement needed!
« Reply #251 on: April 27, 2015, 11:59:13 am »

Huh?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - D2 - 1 replacement needed!
« Reply #252 on: April 27, 2015, 12:01:59 pm »

TDS.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - D2 - 1 replacement needed!
« Reply #253 on: April 27, 2015, 02:03:46 pm »

Tension was baking throughout the loaf today, as accusations as to who was moldy were flung about.  Finally, it was decided that TheDarkStar needed to be exiled from the loaf.  TheDarkStar tumbled into the sink, and as he lay facedown, discolored spots were visible on his back.

TheDarkStar was killed!  He was a mafia rolecop.



Vote count:
  • 4maskwolf - (0) -
  • Deus Asmoth - (0) -
  • Dorsidwarf - (0) -
  • TheDarkStar - (3) - Tea, roo, Deus Asmoth
  • origamiscienceguy - (1) - 4maskwolf
  • roo - (2) - Dorsidwarf, TheDarkStar
  • Tea - (0) -

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Beginner's Mafia LIV: You Are Bread - D3 - All we are is crumbs in the wind
« Reply #254 on: April 28, 2015, 09:55:58 am »

Tea somehow ended up outside of the loaf overnight.  The slices were worried, but it looked like she was making her way steadily back to the loaf.  But then, a terrible noise sounded.  Metal on metal, tinkling steadily.  A shadow fell over Tea, and the slices looked on in horror as a large dog scooped her up in its mouth and trotted off.  Tea was never seen again.

Tea has been killed!  She was vanilla town.



Vote count:
  • 4maskwolf - (0) -
  • Deus Asmoth - (0) -
  • Dorsidwarf - (0) -
  • Lord_lemonpie - (0) -
  • roo - (0) -

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