Roo: there were several questions in that post you just quoted. You've answered none of them, nor have you provided any sources to back up the various empty claims I've pointed out. Would you care to do so, or do you 'just wanna talk and not play'? I won't answer your question about who's town and who is scum, for a couple of reasons. Firstly, labelling people as one faction or the other just leads to confirmation bias, so I'm trying to avoid doing it. Secondly, the phrase 'money where your mouth is' seems applicable. I'm apparently the scummiest person in the thread. Why? Why is 4mask definitely town? Which of your three scum reads do you think isn't scum? Do you justify any of your thoughts, or is that just too much talk and not enough play for you?
If you want my abridged thoughts on various people, they're as follows:
Roo: Second highest post count in the thread. Normally a town indicator, but his post count is artificially inflated by the fact that he strings three or four posts together at a time. A lot of his posts also seem to be devoted to pointless posturing, and his votes and reads have no justification behind them. Reads seem to be generated via {choose random player for X. X is definitely town. choose random player for Y. Y is scummy. If a player disagrees with me, they are automatically designated as Y}. Questionable assumption that any form of interrogation means that the person asking a question wants to vote for you.
TDS: Low postcount, reasonable considering he's a replacement. Almost all of his interaction has been with either Tea or Roo, who he merged into the superbeing Rootea (ally of Rootbeer). Jokes aside, an inclination towards short posts and confusing two players hints at a disengagement from the game. Not necessarily a scum indicator, but it definitely doesn't help the town. Doesn't seem to be pushing any cases, more interested in poking holes in Tea's case on him.
Tea: Highest post count. Also seems to enjoy multi-posting. Pushing a case on TDS is a town lean for me, since scum are generally more inclined to let someone do the hard work and be second or third on the wagon. I'd be suspicious about the large number of posts he has on the subject of TDS, but he's definitely paying attention to the other players as well, so that's nice.
Origami: Is replacing out because of business, which is sad since we normally have to kill each other. In any case, an unusually (particularly for him) low postcount. For now, I'm willing to wait on his replacement (perhaps we'll even get a full rotation of subs in).
Dorsi: Interaction with multiple people is good. I'd question whether it's suspicious to anticipate the D1 extension that seems to be the default play here by voting for it early.
Tea: if you bear in mind that asking the participants of a disagreement leads to inevitable bias on both sides, my understanding of my and roo's interaction is as follows: roo disagreed with Dorsi on the Bay12 meta shortly after I replaced in. I asked roo what his understanding of it was, which he refused to answer. roo has since accused me of bias against him, cherry picking his posts, linking him to scum (he has yet to explain how he knows who the scum are or how I linked them to him) and personally disliking him. He has also refused to back up any of this with any form of substance, and is also ignoring any questions I put to him.
As for roo not making sense, I don't see that as meaning he's scum. I think he's certainly acting scummy with his question dodging, unfounded accusations and hypersensitivity to questioning, but the not making sense isn't an influence on that aside from indicating an emotional involvement, which could point to either town or scum.
I've done my best to sum up my current thoughts on TDS above, but I only got back to my house a couple of hours ago after being away since Friday, so my thoughts are likely to change after getting more than four hours of sleep.
Origami, what's the difference between anger and aggression on a forum? I appreciate that it may be a difficult one to answer, but that's the difference you've given between roo's scum meta and his town meta, so it does seem like an answer is needed.
Dorsi, since we seem to be going through replacements at a fairly good pace, how much weight do you attach to the predecessor's actions when a new player replaces in? Do you still think OSG was/is intentionally lurking?
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