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How much do you like fanservice? (The kind your interested in)

I can't get enough
- 4 (5.2%)
If it is good, I can enjoy a little peak
- 29 (37.7%)
I could honestly care less
- 12 (15.6%)
I ignore it, but sometimes it is just distracting
- 16 (20.8%)
It is annoying, honestly stop!
- 16 (20.8%)

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Neonivek

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How much do you love fanservice? (Poll)
« on: March 27, 2015, 04:48:13 pm »

So you are watching a movie where a stalker is creeping up to a guy who is seemingly unaware of this murderer's presence when suddenly... He needs to take a shower.

Going into the shower he takes off his shirt and is behind the curtains applying soap when suddenly the curtains are pulled and you see in full gratuitous display his bare chested features.

(Note for the sake of the poll... assume the fan service is the type you would be interested in.)

My assumption is that most people just flat out don't care with it leaking into "kind of distracting" and "Ehh sometimes", but I am the sort of person who doesn't settle for his own assumptions no matter how sound they are. So I want to know at least what people here think.

My personal opinion on fan service is that... it is usually done in a way and fashion in order to be as distracting as possible often to the detriment of the fiction being displayed. But I honestly could care less about sexiness in movies.

Heck I am the type of person who doesn't find "Catsuits" sexy at all... Which always makes me perplexed when someone says "Of course this person is the Fanservice person, look they are wearing a catsuit" because not only was that suit not really all that "revealing" but all it really is, is a full set of clothes without the mid-drift it is actually LESS sexy then a T-shirt and some sweat pants could be.

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Otherwise please just be kind and courteous to other people. Everyone is going to have a different opinion on this thread, but I hope just because one person finds fanservice evil and one person finds fanservice to be hallowed sugar shaped goodness that they can't at least be cordial.

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Re: How much do you love fanservice? (Poll)
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2015, 06:46:05 pm »

Some fanservice is fine if it fits with the show. It can ruin a show when there's gratuitous fanservice "tacked on" and it jars with everything else in the show.

Anime has many examples. For example, in Highschool DxD it's an ecchi comedy, and the fanservice fits the story/genre, this show did well and has a definite target audience / fan-base. As opposed to Divergence Eve which is a psychological sci-fi/horror/mystery, and the rampant fanservice just creates this split-personality show you can't really recommend to anyone. People who are there for the fanservice don't want to sit through the lengthy dialogue and gore scenes, and people who want the action and mystery really don't want to see giant watermelon boobs everywhere. It feels like it was constructed by committee, trying to appeal to two demographics at once, but ends up appealing to neither (It did have interesting ideas going on, I just ignored the fanservice mostly). The split personality of Divergence Eve is best summed up by watching the opening and closing credits. You'd think they were two separate shows.

I think it's more noticeable when it's animated, because you're aware that someone had to actually sit down and draw that, but there's a lot of sexualization of characters running through many live action shows as well, such as in CSI type shows where they have lingering shots of particular girls best "assets", and you don't realize how relentless (like every time they enter a scene) they are in zooming into one girls butt in tight jeans until you see it laid out in an article.

I also noticed back in the day that many American sitcoms would show a girl's legs in a short skirt when she entered the scene, then for the rest of the scene they'd only show her waist-up, then when the scene ended, they'd show a flash of leg again. Once I noticed one show doing that, it noticed all the shows doing it, it seems to be a standard thing the old-style sitcoms all did: they had this unwritten rule of showing fanservice shots at the start and end of a scene, with a gap in the middle. It was clearly intended to keep the male viewer's eyes on the screen long enough to go to commercials, while being subtle enough not to piss off female viewers.
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Re: How much do you love fanservice? (Poll)
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2015, 06:58:52 pm »

assume the fan service is the type you would be interested in.

That's kind of the thing, though. What appeals to one person might annoy somebody else. All sorts of shades of gray exist here. Even something that might appeal to someone had it been done more subtlely, can tend to grate when overdone.

Personally I think if you want a general answer, fan service is done "a bit too much." But that's not to say that I never enjoy it. I do, sometimes. And other times I have the "ok guys, you seriously need to stop this is detracting from the show now" reaction.

Think of it like pepper. Or salt. Or chocolate syrup. Having these things can be a definite plus, but "just add more" does not always make something better, and even if you really like these things there comes a point where they can make something unpalatable.

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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2015, 07:34:19 pm »

What I mostly meant is...

I didn't want people to say "No I hate fanservice" when they were thinking of say "gay fanservice" which was clearly not for them?

It would skew the numbers and make the results moot. I want people to exclude fanservice that has no ability to be attractive to them.
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Re: How much do you love fanservice? (Poll)
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2015, 07:40:12 pm »

So you're essentially asking 'is it possible for there to be too much of a good thing'?
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Re: How much do you love fanservice? (Poll)
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2015, 09:06:34 pm »

So you're essentially asking 'is it possible for there to be too much of a good thing'?
That depends on whether you think fanservice is a good thing.  You can like the idea of something on a visceral level and still think "ugh, no, get it away"

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Re: How much do you love fanservice? (Poll)
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2015, 09:18:55 pm »

It really depends on the context and how much you expect it. If you're, say, watching a show where one of the main characters is a movie star or a model or something, some level of fanservice is expected and acceptable. But if you're watching something that's completely serious business, like a movie about, say, lawyers or doctors, and you get a shower scene or whatever, then that's just annoying.

The acceptable amount and intensity of fanservice, meanwhile, directly correlates how much it's expected and/or in-context. If it's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it cleavage shot out of the blue in a film about corrupt corporate executives, that's OK. If there's a completely gratuitous and random poolside scene where the camera spends more time on scantily-clad extras than the main characters discussing business in the same film, that crosses the line.
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Re: How much do you love fanservice? (Poll)
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2015, 09:19:54 pm »

I don't really mind personally but it makes it really embarrassing to watch with/recommend to other people.
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2015, 09:56:06 pm »

I don't really mind personally but it makes it really embarrassing to watch with/recommend to other people.
This right here. As long as it's not excessive to the point of disrupting things I care about in the show, it's fine, but hell if it doesn't make it hard to introduce stuff to people who aren't in that mindset.
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2015, 01:56:57 am »

Kinda depends on how much attachment I have to the series and my conception of "what it's about". Starting with The Next Generation, Star Trek was never "about" fanservice in the slightest which is why it's kinda jarring and out-of-place whenever it does come along. Game of Thrones and ASOIAF, on the other hand, has sex literally everywhere. Weird sex, emotional sex, kinky sex, romantic sex, gross sex, comic sex, so on and so forth. Whether or not you think it's disgusting or unnecessary, the tone of the story would be much different without it. In at least one specific (spoilery) case, I'd argue that it actually has an erotic scene that's essential for a character's development and telling that part of the story. Highlight the next line if you want to see it:
Tyrion and Sansa's "wedding night", in which Tyrion shows his moral character by not having sex with Sansa in a very much not-sexy scene.

So, it really does depend. I can't say I've ever specifically enjoyed a show more because it had fanservice, though.
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2015, 02:34:05 am »

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Re: How much do you love fanservice? (Poll)
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2015, 02:46:18 am »

I don't really mind personally but it makes it really embarrassing to watch with/recommend to other people.
This right here. As long as it's not excessive to the point of disrupting things I care about in the show, it's fine, but hell if it doesn't make it hard to introduce stuff to people who aren't in that mindset.
Being a younger sibling (mid-late in a large family), I hated fanservice whenever it appeared at all; mainly because I usually got all kinds of crap from my siblings about it (especially my brothers), and always getting hit with censorship calls from my parents was no help either, making it outright embarrassing to watch it, or even shrug it off whenever a scene, even with a relatively attractive person on screen, sans sufficient fanservice, even appears (I pretty much predict this crap with minimal cues, just to prevent witnessing it, and dealing with the flak). I still get an awkward reaction when it comes on (I can't help it, I always avert my head or eyes regardless; I'm an adult, and I still do this), and nobody's around; I even hold back on any recommendation of damn near anything (even tame stuff), to nearly puritanical levels, if it has any amount of fanservice on it, because, screw any story it might have "We know why you like watching this/are such a fan." is pretty much what I, 95% of the time, expect to hear from anyone I know. It makes me feel like I'm permanently labeled a pervert (though I was anything but that), even when I've been told something's worth watching by the very same people (*cough*siblings*cough*) that gave me that crap; or the fact that I'm an adult even, and shouldn't still feel like this, this late into my life. Nowadays, I have to build up an immunity to reacting to anything even remotely sexy, if at least, to prevent reacting in such a manner to it in front of others.


TL;DR- I hated fanservice (mainly because of my siblings making fun of me about it); but nowadays, I got better, and it's more like the Matrix to me. I don't even see the fanservice anymore. I just see it for what it is. Blonde, brunette, redhead... Hot or not, I can give less a crap about it. Hell, fanservice makes me roll my eyes in annoyance, because it's pointless. If it keeps an audience, okay, I guess. But if there's a good story, I'd like to shamelessly share it, and not have a repeat of my childhood, and the crap that came with it, because of it.

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Ironically, I was just like those kinds of male lead anime characters that always tells the girl to cover up, and avoids looking at them at all costs (though it's out of courtesy; naturally, the wrong message always would be received from it). Predictably, violence is to be expected, whether actually seen or not. Nowadays, however, I don't give a flying fuck about it, and might as well be regarded as blind to it. As long as I don't react, whose to say I noticed, or even care anymore? You see one, you've seen them all. I accept the consequences to the receiving party's ego it may cause.
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2015, 04:18:08 am »

To admit one reason I probably am not a huge fan of fanservice

Is likely related to the fact that I not only had late puberty at age 15+

But that I didn't even have a libido until my 20s
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2015, 04:41:10 am »

I'm mostly not bothered either way. To me it's more of an issue if an attractive but bad actor gets the role or it's an adaption of a book & they're adding a love story/scene to meet a formula. So anything where there changing the story or there's so much fan service that it's most of the show/movie will bother me.
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2015, 05:53:07 am »

Not enough options. Fanservice is genre-sensitive.
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