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[lijacote]

... the thing is I like the permanent death thing so I like to put myself in danger (now i'm sjdf njsnd fn f )

I just found the drake fight you mentioned. That's a lot deeper than the level where the pit is on... oh wow. Yeah.

[pondicherry]

... the thing is I like the permanent death thing so I like to put myself in danger (now i'm sjdf njsnd fn f )

I just found the drake fight you mentioned. That's a lot deeper than the level where the pit is on... oh wow. Yeah.

I did not mean to spoil it for you  sorry friend

[lijacote]

... the thing is I like the permanent death thing so I like to put myself in danger (now i'm sjdf njsnd fn f )

I just found the drake fight you mentioned. That's a lot deeper than the level where the pit is on... oh wow. Yeah.

I did not mean to spoil it for you  sorry friend

It's not a spoiler, I think. Though... well, yeah, it sorta is. It is. But I did not feel spoiled. Just commenting on the difficulty one would face.

[Biowraith]

Not sure if this counts as spoilers, but in case it does:

Spoiler: drake level (click to show/hide)

I did that on my first run through too - jumped down the pit and met the drake well before I could actually handle the fight.  I didn't find the rest of that floor to be too difficult though, the encounters didn't seem *too* much harder than some of the fights on the first floor - the fight at the top of the pit was probably harder, although that only seems to trigger if you go around to the back of the room.  I think my party was around level 4 or 5 at that point (although only Normal difficulty).  I'm also pretty sure you can access the master stair back to the surface from that level too - my memory is hazy as to where on the floor it is, but I didn't have to fight the drake or go up a level to escape.

edit: just loaded an old saved game and yeah, my memory is correct - at least on Normal difficulty it's relatively trivial to make it out of there with a level 4 party.  Obviously can't speak for other character levels or higher difficulty though.

[pondicherry]

Well, I managed to handle the rest of the corridor, avoiding the "d" problem for now, i'm trying to get out of the Endless paths, so that means going up...

[umiman]

Isn't there a fast-exit on the same level as the D? It's either that or floor 5.

I killed the massive penis by summoning 3 phantoms, 3 small beetles, one giant beetle, two wisps, and two mini drakes. Those summoning items are so broken.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Finally got around to playing a bit of this- just hit level 4 and about to either tackle the bear or look for the blacksmith's lost convoy.
Playing two campaigns simultaneously- one cipher, one wizard, and I gotta say:
I kinda prefer the double-wizard party.
You've gotta plan the engagements more, and save-scumming may be a very important factor in my experience, but I've found encounters to be a bit easier with the wizbros. And if you wanted a priest or wizard in your party then you're already gonna have to revolve your adventures around their /rest uses, so that's a non-issue.
And in the meantime- 4 arcane assaults/encounter, right off the bat. Tha's like, what, 30-80 raw DMG +daze on however many enemies you can fit into the AOE? Front-loaded in the fight? Brutal.

Does Durance get much better? The per-rest nature of his buffs make them seem really..shit. Hopefully interdiction works as well as I hope.

[forsaken1111]

Does Durance get much better? The per-rest nature of his buffs make them seem really..shit. Hopefully interdiction works as well as I hope.

I THINK that at higher levels the lower level spells become per-encounter. Not sure though.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Yeah, saw that for the wizards- but it's, like, lvl NINE.
With the XP req increasing each level & the xp getting split within a full party, I wonder just how long it'll be before Durance is doing more than wanding people and saving his charges..

[Catastrophic lolcats]

You'll meet a shade and abandoned all hope on wizards/priests.

[umiman]

I made durance a tanky melee brawler so he's usually the second last to die.

His spells are great too, especially the auras.

There's no reason to hoard spells when he has like a million to cast. He has I think three spells that basically make your party immortal and they're easy to get.

I also gave kana the skill that reduces the penalty for switching weapons. Holy shit he's like a god now. Between the musket, the sword and shield, and the dual flails he can fight anything. And those chants... Freaking aoe fire dragons every few seconds followed by charming everything.

[forsaken1111]

You'll meet a shade and abandoned all hope on wizards/priests.

I seem to recall shades being little problem vs my wizards and their doomfire spray

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Is he still using his staff Umiman?

You'll meet a shade and abandoned all hope on wizards/priests.

I seem to recall shades being little problem vs my wizards and their doomfire spray

Yeah, went through the catacombs twice now.
They're tricky, but manageable-
I actually had some success pulling one or two at a time with a ranged rogue & burning him down.
Or funneling them towards a doorway and rolling a ball of fire their way.
Also, sneaking the two wizards up and starting 2 FoFs while they're being detected worked well.

BUT it would often take a couple tries for things to go off without a hitch- I didn't suffer through the consequences of double wizmisses and watch my party die off.
Just reloaded.

[umiman]

Is he still using his staff Umiman?

Yeah. Staff with a pistol as a secondary weapon (that I never use).

[kcwong]

There's an annoying bug in Sanitarium. It involves mistakenly turning NPCs hostile, forcing you to kill them ruining your reputation and breaking other quests.

Spoiler: It's a main quest in Act 2, called "The Man Who Waits" (click to show/hide)

After you trigger a fight in the North Ward, do not go back to talk to Azo before you've eliminated other hostiles in the level.

A dialog option will turn Azo hostile; killing him would respawn NPCs in the level. The remaining hostiles will then attack the neutral NPCs, and you get blamed for it. The effect will spread upstairs.

References:
https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/74075-hostile-sanitarium-bug/
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/78270-bug-resurrected-patients-in-sanitorium/

No fix for this yet, and the future fix may not fix your already broken save game. So, beware!

And I am off to re-do the entire thing...