Topic: Apocalypse How - Second vision (Read 71747 times)

AoshimaMichio · « **Reply #195 on:** April 18, 2015, 08:03:07 am »

Q3 2015

Quote from: Harry Baldman on April 15, 2015, 12:36:27 pm

Start stockpiling MREs, and invest into shipping.

[6] You spend 200 million dollars to acquire large stockpile of MREs.

Invest into shipping? That's slightly vague action. How much and what you plan to archieve with this? I can retroactively change this.

Personal financial situation:
Your dividends drop slightly form predicted.
Value of your stocks keep rising up! Looks like this bubble will burst at beginning of next year.

Spoiler: Codeine Ogudi Korir (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: The Equatorial Foods Corporation (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Notes (click to show/hide)

Quote from: wipeout1024 on April 15, 2015, 05:56:14 pm

Sell off 8 billion USD of my stocks, fund the construction, and stockpile on canned foods, and other assorted goods.

Stocks sold.

[6] Land purchased for prototype factory. Some old forests had to be cut down to make space for it. Workers begin building the factory.
You might want to create subsidiary for production of self-repairing metals.

[3] You manage to acquire some canned foods for 20 million dollars, but can't decide what those other assorted goods should be.

Personal financial situation:
Your dividends also drop slightly.
Value of stocks stop their sky rocketing increase, but incease still.

Spoiler: Priya Gupta (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Dharma Inc. (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Notes (click to show/hide)

Quote from: Flying Dice on April 16, 2015, 08:17:38 am

Negotiate further with power companies, ask for bids for the first licensing of the technology for land-based plants; part of any deal must include their expertise for the design and construction of shipboard reactors.

Once the engineers have finished the initial ship design, set them to work again to produce a similar variant, but with an emphasis on sustainability and durability rather than luxury.

((What percentage of his own company does Herwald currently own?))

((That's a good question I have not thought of. Dice says quite good part, so let's say around ~30%. I have no idea how realistic that is.))

[3] Half of companies drop out during negotiations leaving only three left; one in USA, another in Europe and last one in China. You are left with impression that these companies want this deal badly.
((Or did you want numbers here?))

[4] Engineers didn't realize this was supposed to be a real ship for production. But now that they have been reinstructed for the job they do good job at altering plans for your preferred direction.
((How's the ship desing? Your engineers are doing very well so there isn't much of chances for me to screw up your desing.))

Personal financial situation:
Dividends keep rising quite nicely!
Stocks as well, but not so notably.

Spoiler: Herwald Rasmussen V (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Rasmussen Steel Services (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Notes (click to show/hide)

Quote from: SaberToothTiger on April 16, 2015, 01:00:07 pm

((How are my finances?))

Order my coders to decode the data.

Tell my researchers to focus on efficient solar power dishes compatible with ships.

Invest 20% of my personal cash reserve into excavation of coal in my company's mines.

[4] Researchers decode your wish data. Encryption methods used include some nice and novel tricks, but nothing particularly good that you could make profit from. Encoded data turns out to be coordinates near ruins of Spiš Castle. Gods are dicks.
[5] You send some good people to find out what is at the coordinates and they return a month later with a hard disk that has your name and social security number printed on it.

[6] Researchers dive into the job with great joy. It's something they have wanted to long time and now that they have opportunity they drop some other research projects in order to work with it.

800 million dollars invested. Company uses money to purchase some new machinery for coal mining. Rest of money is spent for inceasing living standards and safety of workers. Happy workers are efficient workers, so they predict increase in coal production.

Personal financial situation:
Dividends from this quarter are much bigger than predicted! This is good!
Your stocks however lose their value.

Spoiler: Sophia Papanous (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Byzantine Energetics Inc. (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Notes (click to show/hide)

NEWS:
Financial:
World economy keeps rising fast! Companies are now willing to make large investements into future!

Political:
Things are good, political tensions lower. This might be beginning of golden age.

It is now Q4 2015, October 1st.

wipeout1024 · « **Reply #196 on:** April 18, 2015, 08:58:08 am »

Sell off 9 billion USD of my stocks, and found a subsidiary company for the self-repairing metals. Also, try to find trade contracts for the raw metals.

Flying Dice · « **Reply #197 on:** April 18, 2015, 10:16:55 am »

((It depends on what happened over the years; for example, Mars Inc. is 100% family-owned, and for the most part so are the Bechtel group (the people that built the Hoover Dam, among other things), News Corp., Koch Industries, until recently the massive agro-giant Cargill, Ford Motor Co., and Walmart. That said, only Ford would be anywhere near as comparable in terms of longevity to Herwald's businesses, so it wouldn't be surprising that at some point he or one of his predecessors had to sell off stock to deal with a crisis.))

Strike a contract with the most favorable of the three energy companies. ((If they're all roughly the same, do the U.S. firm for the sake of proximity; only accept the Chinese offer if it's vastly more profitable and beneficial than the other two -- we don't want our plans being ripped off.))

Spoiler: Ship (click to show/hide)

((I hope you don't mind me pushing for the IC communication, but we really need to get everything together ASAP.))

Sell up to $10b of non-related stocks, spend up to 50% of gains purchasing stock in own company.

Begin work refitting any company shipyards not currently producing ships for the projected new model.

((Is that enough?))

AoshimaMichio · « **Reply #198 on:** April 18, 2015, 01:45:27 pm »

((Ship:
With final desing rolls I'll throw in an infirmary, gym and storage for non-recyclable materials (things that are spent per-need basis, but cannot necessarily be recovered. Basically a handy quantum storage.).
Projected crew requirement: 300. Most systems being computer controlled. But for sake of sustainability all systems are also manually operated, so losing power wouldn't hurt too much.
Projected passenger capacity: 1500. Lots of space is taken up by support systems.
Projected cost of single ship: 1 - 3 bil USD. There's plenty of unknowns, such as availability and quality of hull material, actual size and availability of power generation. You supposedly have technology, but no known desings yet. Because nobody has yet checked contents of those hard disks.

Hull: Self-repairing materials won't be available until Q2 2016 and before that Priya needs to secure contract for raw metals.

As it is in most games, player-to-player communication is free action. So you can freely make trade contracts with each other without me intervening.))

Flying Dice · « **Reply #199 on:** April 18, 2015, 04:26:15 pm »

((Sounds good. But yes, there are basically some "Here be X" spots that'll be filled in as the work is done.))

ATHATH · « **Reply #200 on:** April 18, 2015, 07:26:42 pm »

Guys, how are we going to explain to the people who we don't have space for that they are going to be left behind? There are going to be riots. People will try to take over or destroy our ships, or will try to threaten us in order to get a spot. If something is going to take humanity out, it won't be the flood. It will be the people.

By the way, someone really should have wished for magic, spellcasting, how to defy physics, etc.

Why didn't someone wish that humans were amphibious and could live in both salt and freshwater?

Flying Dice · « **Reply #201 on:** April 19, 2015, 12:06:30 pm »

((Go back and read the story posts. re: the last question: because the point of the exercise was to come up with an apocalypse that we could potentially weather with a sustainable population without trivializing it. If we asked for a really lame and easy to survive apocalypse, we'd get screwed. If we wished for something that would completely negate the apocalypse we asked for, I'd give damned good odds of us not getting it. Remember the premise behind the game.

Re: the first? Because we know pretty much down to the day when this is going to start. What that means is that we can use our years to quietly work towards gathering a population with a high degree of genetic variance, low predisposition towards things like alcoholism and violence, useful post-apoc/setting-specific skills, &c. Our ideal is probably heavily slanted towards intelligent and hardworking 18-25yos from around the world with the remainder set aside for experts in things that'll be relevant after the end, with the most important feature being a lack of attachments (though it's relatively easy to make room for individuals with spouses and children).

If we do things right we'll already be at sea when the world ends -- we need to do that anyways; while we don't know exactly how the flooding will go down, what we do know is that we're the only ones with advanced warning. I'm planning on starting recruiting by the end of the year (without spilling the real details until it's upon us, obviously), billing it as a mix of oceanic research, work towards conservation, &c. promising good pay and benefits.

Granted, there's some risk, but as long as we're careful we should end up with at least a few thousand productive individuals backed by substantial sperm and egg banks. That's the second danger, after all; even if people survive your apocalypse, you're royally fucked if you don't have a genetically viable population from which to recover.))

Harry Baldman · « **Reply #202 on:** April 19, 2015, 12:11:09 pm »

Have my staff figure out systems of aquaponics suitable for shipboard use. It's for a good cause. I can also spot them a whole lot of money for it, so there's that. If that lies outside the competence of my staff, seek appropriate specialists elsewhere.

Communicate my current insights and stockpiles to Mr. Rasmussen, Ms. Gupta and Ms. Papanous, so that they may plan appropriately with them in mind.

SaberToothTiger · « **Reply #203 on:** April 19, 2015, 12:26:11 pm »

"Maybe we should try to research some sort of cryogenic bedding, to keep most of the passengers aboard the ship sleeping (making the need for food a smaller issue) and trying to fit as many cryo beds as possible?"

Also, what percentage of my company do I own?

Investigate the social security number. Is it mine? If not, look for the person it refers to.

Try to buy as much as possible of my company's shares.

AoshimaMichio · « **Reply #204 on:** April 19, 2015, 02:40:10 pm »

Quote from: ATHATH on April 18, 2015, 07:26:42 pm

Guys, how are we going to explain to the people who we don't have space for that they are going to be left behind? There are going to be riots. People will try to take over or destroy our ships, or will try to threaten us in order to get a spot. If something is going to take humanity out, it won't be the flood. It will be the people.

By the way, someone really should have wished for magic, spellcasting, how to defy physics, etc.

Why didn't someone wish that humans were amphibious and could live in both salt and freshwater?

((In addition/correction what Flying Dice said; it was possible to wish for humans being amphibious and even have that wish granted perfectly. However, the point is an apocalypse that removes human civilization and kills almost everybody. No matter what you wish, no matter how well you prepare, it will end as near genocide. Absolute worst case scenario with selected apocalypse is Class 4 - Planetary Extinction, and best case is lighter form of Class 2 - Planetary-scale Societal Collapse.

Anyway, this seems like opportunity to do a mini turn. There's few minor actions that would be solved in few days or hours even.))

Q4 2015: Mini turn 1

Quote from: wipeout1024 on April 18, 2015, 08:58:08 am

Sell off 9 billion USD of my stocks, and found a subsidiary company for the self-repairing metals. Also, try to find trade contracts for the raw metals.

Stocks sold. This sends minor panic across ecomical world.
Subsidiary company founded. It needs base funds to operate and employees. Get loan from banks, invest your own money or will it issue shares?

Rasmussen Steel Services initates trade negotiation. They want to purchase those self-repairing metals of yours.

Ogudi Korir shares his current status of stockpiles with you.

((Finding trade contracts will be full turn action, so repost it as such.))

Spoiler: Priya Gupta (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Dharma Inc. (click to show/hide)

Quote from: Flying Dice on April 18, 2015, 10:16:55 am

((It depends on what happened over the years; for example, Mars Inc. is 100% family-owned, and for the most part so are the Bechtel group (the people that built the Hoover Dam, among other things), News Corp., Koch Industries, until recently the massive agro-giant Cargill, Ford Motor Co., and Walmart. That said, only Ford would be anywhere near as comparable in terms of longevity to Herwald's businesses, so it wouldn't be surprising that at some point he or one of his predecessors had to sell off stock to deal with a crisis.))

Strike a contract with the most favorable of the three energy companies. ((If they're all roughly the same, do the U.S. firm for the sake of proximity; only accept the Chinese offer if it's vastly more profitable and beneficial than the other two -- we don't want our plans being ripped off.))

Spoiler: Ship (click to show/hide)
Keep in mind, these measurements don't have to be absolute. Here goes, though:
Style: Trimaran, in the sense of littoral combat ships.

Dimensions
Length: 300m
Beam (Maximum): 65m
Beam (Waterline): 75m
Draft: 6m (or whatever would be most stable -- I'm not up to scratch on my nautical engineering)

Power
Main: Fusion Reactor sufficient to power the entire ship indefinitely with substantial spare capacity.
Secondary: Backup Fusion Reactor sufficient for everything necessary for operation.
Tertiary: Hardpoints which could be used or modified to attach solar cell arrays -- get in touch with Sophia and her people about this

Propulsion: Similar to the non-power components of the USS Independence (waterjets and azimuth thrusters) but sufficiently scaled up or multiplied (pref. both) to account for the larger size of the vessel. ((Incidentally, that link should give you a good general idea of what they'll look like; that image, except a bit under 3x the length and much wider. It's also about 75% of the size of larger cruise ships))

Hull: I'm no engineer. Whatever combination of metals and treatments would make for the longest-lasting hull while still being fairly easy to repair. Get in touch with Priya and co. regarding self-repairing metals -- that's our ideal hull material, I think.

General design bits and bobs:
+Large storage space with an elevator from the surface deck, including mount stations for small submersibles to be stored
+Large surface deck
+Many small living quarters and/or communal bunkrooms
+Large, sturdily-mounted deck crane for shifting cargo &c. from the sea, main deck, and nearby docks
+Onboard manufacturing facilities/workshops
+Space for hydroponic facilities and long-term food storage
+Desalinization facilities and water storage
+Space for long-term storage of genetic material for humans, animals, and plants

((I hope you don't mind me pushing for the IC communication, but we really need to get everything together ASAP.))

Sell up to $10b of non-related stocks, spend up to 50% of gains purchasing stock in own company.

Begin work refitting any company shipyards not currently producing ships for the projected new model.

((Is that enough?))

((Contract with power companies and refitting shipyards is full turn action. Repost those actions as such.))

Let's say you sell 7 billion and buy spend 1 billion to purchasing stocks. Not that many are selling. This means you own now 40% of your company.

Ogudi Korir shares his current status of stockpiles with you.

Spoiler: Herwald Rasmussen V (click to show/hide)

Quote from: Harry Baldman on April 19, 2015, 12:11:09 pm

Have my staff figure out systems of aquaponics suitable for shipboard use. It's for a good cause. I can also spot them a whole lot of money for it, so there's that. If that lies outside the competence of my staff, seek appropriate specialists elsewhere.

Communicate my current insights and stockpiles to Mr. Rasmussen, Ms. Gupta and Ms. Papanous, so that they may plan appropriately with them in mind.

Status information shared.
((Aquaponics research is full turn action, so repost it as such.))

Quote from: SaberToothTiger on April 19, 2015, 12:26:11 pm

"Maybe we should try to research some sort of cryogenic bedding, to keep most of the passengers aboard the ship sleeping (making the need for food a smaller issue) and trying to fit as many cryo beds as possible?"

Also, what percentage of my company do I own?

Investigate the social security number. Is it mine? If not, look for the person it refers to.

Try to buy as much as possible of my company's shares.

((40% says RNG))

The social security number is yours.

You have 3.607 billion USD in cash and 15 bil in stocks (4 bil worth of your company). Your action would mean you spend all of your cash to buy stocks, which might not be optimal solution.

Ogudi Korir shares his current status of stockpiles with you.

Rasmussen Steel Services initates trade negotiation. They are interested of solar cell arrays.

Spoiler: Sophia Papanous (click to show/hide)

Q4 2015

SaberToothTiger · « **Reply #205 on:** April 19, 2015, 02:47:37 pm »

Check on the solar panel research. Sell a quarter of my unrelated shares and buy up to 20% shares of my company.
Try to be as optimal as possible with the trade offer from the RSS and see what price they offer.
Investigate the disk further. Does it have any interesting specifics? What are the contents?
Research efficient power cells capable of holding a lot of energy for a long time.

AoshimaMichio · « **Reply #206 on:** April 19, 2015, 11:46:43 pm »

Quote from: SaberToothTiger on April 19, 2015, 02:47:37 pm

Check on the solar panel research. Sell a quarter of my unrelated shares and buy up to 20% shares of my company.
Try to be as optimal as possible with the trade offer from the RSS and see what price they offer.
Investigate the card further. Did I lose mine? Is it the original? Does it have any interesting specifics?
Research efficient power cells capable of holding a lot of energy for a long time.

((What card you are talking about?))

Harry Baldman · « **Reply #207 on:** April 20, 2015, 12:23:06 am »

Have my staff figure out systems of aquaponics suitable for shipboard use. It's for a good cause. I can also spot them a whole lot of money for it, so there's that. If that lies outside the competence of my staff, seek appropriate specialists elsewhere.

wipeout1024 · « **Reply #208 on:** April 20, 2015, 07:35:16 am »

Find trade contracts, and make a deal for the self-reapiring metals, tell them it isn't made yet though.

SaberToothTiger · « **Reply #209 on:** April 20, 2015, 08:00:59 am »

Quote from: AoshimaMichio on April 19, 2015, 11:46:43 pm

Quote from: SaberToothTiger on April 19, 2015, 02:47:37 pm
Check on the solar panel research. Sell a quarter of my unrelated shares and buy up to 20% shares of my company.
Try to be as optimal as possible with the trade offer from the RSS and see what price they offer.
Investigate the card further. Did I lose mine? Is it the original? Does it have any interesting specifics?
Research efficient power cells capable of holding a lot of energy for a long time.

((What card you are talking about?))

Ooops. Let me change that action quickly...

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