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[ZebioLizard2]

Oh that is just blizzard easter eggs, they are Diablo's horns.

[sjm9876]

...now I see that. Today is not a good day for me

[spümpkin]

Did anyone post the new Bastion FMV?

If not, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to8yh83jlXg

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I really liked that war scene, though now they need to tell us how he went from nature-loving-PTSD-peacebot to the psychopathic-mass-murdering-chokepoint-camper he is now.

I'm also curious about another point. Bastion is apparently an omnic according to the description. Omnics are sentient robots, no? Yet Bastion and all his mass-manufactured comrades clearly have programmed directives installed into them. So... did the war happen because all these guys got hacked and someone forced them to war? Or were they just being derpy with the definition of Omnics?

I watched this while eating my breakfast and my mother was up cooking something.

I got tears in my cereal, and my mum was quite confused as to what was wrong. It was a very emotional experience ;-;

[EnigmaticHat]

Did anyone post the new Bastion FMV?

If not, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to8yh83jlXg

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I really liked that war scene, though now they need to tell us how he went from nature-loving-PTSD-peacebot to the psychopathic-mass-murdering-chokepoint-camper he is now.

I'm also curious about another point. Bastion is apparently an omnic according to the description. Omnics are sentient robots, no? Yet Bastion and all his mass-manufactured comrades clearly have programmed directives installed into them. So... did the war happen because all these guys got hacked and someone forced them to war? Or were they just being derpy with the definition of Omnics?

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Pharah's comic seems to suggest that in addition to the robotic factories, humanity produced (for whatever reason) multiple Skynet style AIs that turned on us.  Anubis, one of these AIs who's currently quarantined at the Temple of Anubis, has the ability to mind control Omnics.  Including present-time Omnics that have peacefully integrated into society.

Assuming the training area is non-canon, Overwatch does seem to apply the concept of rights to all Omnics *except* the Bastion units.  They didn't kill the AIs running the show after all, and even tho his father was apparently killed by an Omnic as far as we know, Reinhardt doesn't seem to have any emnity against the human-like variety.  Despite being famous for fighting Omnics, NONE of the characters with space-racist lines were ever part of Overwatch.  Maybe Overwatch thought the Bastion units weren't sentient, although the short would seem to suggest that is not the case.

That being said, IRRC most of the Bastions were purpose built to attack humanity, so it seems unlikely they would have needed much coercion.

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There's two people wearing power armour there. With Eichenwalde showing a set of armour slumped on the throne I'm kinda curious as to whether there's a whole platoon of them or something more interesting going on.

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One of my pet theories about the Overwatch plot is that Blackhardt and Bloodhardt are not actually suits of armor worn by Reinhardt, rather they're Talon modified suits worn by Crusaders who betrayed Overwatch.  They look quite similar to the Talon armor from "Recall", and McCree's comic confirms that Talon staff includes large numbers of Overwatch traitors (or at the very least, former members of the black ops group Reaper headed and McCree was part off).

[ZebioLizard2]

  espite being famous for fighting Omnics, NONE of the characters with space-racist lines were ever part of Overwatch.

Space-Racist? Though Torbjorn is probably one of the most 'hateful' of omnics and he was part of original overwatch.

[Egan_BW]

I watched this while eating my breakfast and my mother was up cooking something.

I got tears in my cereal, and my mum was quite confused as to what was wrong. It was a very emotional experience ;-;

Robot's don't have feelings, silly.

My personal view is that Bastions aren't omnics, but merely "combat automata." But perhaps this particular one organically developed feelings from being innawoods for awhile, and that might technically make it an omnic?

[ZebioLizard2]

I watched this while eating my breakfast and my mother was up cooking something.

I got tears in my cereal, and my mum was quite confused as to what was wrong. It was a very emotional experience ;-;

Robot's don't have feelings, silly.

My personal view is that Bastions aren't omnics, but merely "combat automata." But perhaps this particular one organically developed feelings from being innawoods for awhile, and that might technically make it an omnic?

Bastions were originally peacekeeping robots, all robots in this seem to be Omnics if they are all produced from the Omniums, but some didn't fully become 'self-aware' like the others, as it was stated somewhere that they have the capacity for free will, not that they all do. Though considering that they used Bastion units as the primary military force for the Omnic Crisis, I'm sure they wouldn't care if they were self-aware or not due to being one of the primary 'faces' of the destructive forces that ravaged the planet.

[EnigmaticHat]

  espite being famous for fighting Omnics, NONE of the characters with space-racist lines were ever part of Overwatch.

Space-Racist? Though Torbjorn is probably one of the most 'hateful' of omnics and he was part of original overwatch.

My pet description for fictional racism in Sci-fi.

I haven't heard any voice lines from Torb to suggest he hates Omnics.  I know he didn't want to build them in the first place, but that seems more like caution than prejudice.

[ZebioLizard2]

  espite being famous for fighting Omnics, NONE of the characters with space-racist lines were ever part of Overwatch.

Space-Racist? Though Torbjorn is probably one of the most 'hateful' of omnics and he was part of original overwatch.

My pet description for fictional racism in Sci-fi.

I haven't heard any voice lines from Torb to suggest he hates Omnics.  I know he didn't want to build them in the first place, but that seems more like caution than prejudice.

One of his most 'infamous' lines shows up when he arrives in King's row "If you ask me, the Brits have their heads on straight! "Omnic rights"...ptuh! "

Along with his reaction to Nepal "This place is like a culmination of a thousand of my worst nightmares! Are you kidding me?! "

And his reaction to Numbani which is a serious of straight NO's! And as his line with a Bastion indicates "I hate working with these Talking Tin Cans"

[EnigmaticHat]

Shit, I heard those lines but misheard all of them.  I thought he was saying something awkward about British people, as in like humans, in that first one.

[Levi]

Along with his reaction to Nepal "This place is like a culmination of a thousand of my worst nightmares! Are you kidding me?! "

I think half of it is that he hates omnics.  The other half is that he hates stairs and climbing.   

[Flying Dice]

umiman, it's obvious. Bastion was a dirty camper all along. He camped in that forest for the entire Omnic war.

[Man of Paper]

That's my secret, Cap. I'm always camping.

[umiman]

umiman, it's obvious. Bastion was a dirty camper all along. He camped in that forest for the entire Omnic war.

Someone on Reddit said this about it:

"Though Bastion's new nature is gentle, its core combat programming takes over when the unit senses danger, utilizing its entire arsenal to eliminate anything it perceives as a threat. This has led to instances of conflict with the few humans it has encountered, and it tries to avoid populated areas in favor of the wild, uncharted regions of the world."

http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Bastion#Background

So he's like... Wobbuffet.

[PTTG??]

I'm kind of curious where in modern or semimodern Germany you can wander in a forest, continuously, for at least 24 hours, without seeing even a sign of humanity.

Also, has anyone in the Overwatch setting ever heard of artillery?