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[n9103]

all guns... wow.
45 seems a bit much even for pistols and buckshot.
Welp, looks like I'm not going to be picking this one back up anytime soon.

[Cheedows]

What's with all the different forks now, like other people said makes it a bit confusing on which one to pick up if we want to give an experimental a whirl.

[Robsoie]

Is that gun bigger dispersion value moddable ?

[duckman]

What's with all the different forks now, like other people said makes it a bit confusing on which one to pick up if we want to give an experimental a whirl.

A number of unpopular/controversial and untested design decisions over the past year-and-a-half or so was the start of it.

[King Zultan]

This kind of shit is why I stayed on an older experimental, and might never update.

Also I wish they never messed with the overmap specials, you know the thing where there can only be 72 mandatory specials per overmap it's just annoying and they said on github that they could increase the number but I haven't see that they have.

[Aseaheru]

 Well, with different forks, it would be nice if there where simple buttons to download them off the main page, for the less tech-literate of us and those who don't check github.

[Damiac]

How does Mr. Grenades feel about all the forks? Would he actually be OK with links to them alongside the main one?

I know the politics have gotten nasty from time to time.

[zaimoni]

Forks generally contain changes he has openly rejected, if not outright banned the proposer for.

[Skeeblix]

Sad to see this once great game turn into a spergfest of unfun additions and pointless minutiae that do little to improve the quality of the game, and also the appearance of all this nasty political drama and assholery that has spawned amongst the community. Guess we'll never see a real stable release again, what a shame.

[iceball3]

I know insofar as much that grenade probably wouldn't openly decry the likes of  cthulhu's fork due to the hypocrisy involved, but has at least once or twice dove into CDDA forum discussion threads and plucked out posts on grounds of being "irrelevant" because they mentioned the fork.

[Random_Dragon]

I know insofar as much that grenade probably wouldn't openly decry the likes of  cthulhu's fork due to the hypocrisy involved, but has at least once or twice dove into CDDA forum discussion threads and plucked out posts on grounds of being "irrelevant" because they mentioned the fork.

This. I would definitely consider that a thinly-veiled hint of animosity. It really says something that Coolthulhu had, back when I was a forumite on there, expressed exasperation with some of Kevin's actions. At one point he got to the point of saying "I don't know why I bother anymore" or something along those lines, back when Kevin nixed a legit bugfix for some stupid reason.

[SalmonGod]

That really is a shame, because Cataclysm is one of my favorite roguelikes.

[Random_Dragon]

And I'll admit I greatly enjoyed my time as a contributor way back in the day, at least the actual feeling that I was benefiting someone else besides myself like most of my modding ideas. But both Kevin and I were (and still are) the argumentative type, so things kinda just went downhill over time.

[SalmonGod]

So what's the most stable, playable, recommended build at this point?  Or is that question alone liable to get a fight going?

[iceball3]

I guess cthulhu's is a good start due to the ranged weapon fixes.