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[pisskop]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PKs_Rebalancing/

Ive popped up some threads about the more mysterious and slightly punishing aspects of the mod.  Stuff thats downplayed in the coregame but present, and thus since people dont know much about them and see somehow theyre experiencing some malus they dont know how to avoid they dislike it.  This hopefully helps people get over it with some brief education and etc

[Random_Dragon]

Large, full tanks typically mean Game Over. (Or at MINIMUM totaled car) Be very careful with this. (Keep your gas tanks away from ANY edge of the vehicle! The second frontmost row is also a no-no! (Even if you ram things never... You never know if your only choice is a bit of demolition derby or you just run out of replacement supplies...))

A long time ago, I used this to bust open a bunker. I think since then, tanks going up in smoke got fixed. Or broken, hard to tell.

Now it seems to just damage the vehicle part until the tank leaks, and eventually the tank is totaled and all the gasoline spills on the ground, burning rather mundanely.

[Blood_Librarian]

Haven't played beyond a couple hours of Cataclysm but I think I've done enough to set up PKS Imagining, but I feel like the one in the mod list isn't the full extent of what it should be, is there some sort of extension to it or something unique I have to do first?

Heh, already figured out the welding cart tactic.

[pisskop]

http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=12051.0
https://github.com/pisskop/PKs_Rebalancing

this pk fellow is a pretty sharp cookie.

[Flying Dice]

Got back on my current character, couldn't remember what it was. Turned out to be a Stylish maid. She was wearing full ceremonial plate armor and greathelm with her maid outfit over the armor and fancy sunglasses on inside the helm. I guess I went full anime.

[n9103]

Got back on my current character, couldn't remember what it was. Turned out to be a Stylish maid. She was wearing full ceremonial plate armor and greathelm with her maid outfit over the armor and fancy sunglasses on inside the helm. I guess I went full anime.

Never go full Alphonse. 

[BigD145]

Got back on my current character, couldn't remember what it was. Turned out to be a Stylish maid. She was wearing full ceremonial plate armor and greathelm with her maid outfit over the armor and fancy sunglasses on inside the helm. I guess I went full anime.

Never go full Alphonse. 

I was going to say Claymore.

[SalmonGod]

Got a character up to the upper levels.  Had lots of good gear.  Working on survival set.  Starting to dabble in CBMs.  Had some skills in the lvl 7-8 range.  Starting to build a base of operations and tinker with vehicles.  This is near the extent to which I have ever progressed in this game.

I go on an expedition to an unexplored area of town.  Ride my bicycle out into an intersection.  Dismount to go clobber a zombie.  Zombie explodes right in front of me.  I start running.  After 1 step, I'm notified that I am being laser targeted.  I survive 4 shots and get like 8 steps away, before the off-screen tank drone obliterates me.

I both love and hate that about this game.

[Blood_Librarian]

I got around that level, my death was by running my SWAT Van that was turned into loot hoard into a river with murderous fish. 

[Eclectic Wizard]

Tank drones still keep me away from the game entirely, they are the most overpowered BS enemy ever that causes unpreventable YASD's for no good reason. Generally the MGS BS doesn't fit the game at all.

[Kaitol]

Gonna call that one ragequit induced paranoia. Tankdrones spawn rarely and in predictable locations and don't wander too much unless things have changed radically in the past couple of months. Most of my characters that have made it past day 400 have never seen one, or only seen one, maybe two on the outside. Also you're given clear warning the instant one starts targeting you and they can't target you from anywhere close to max sight range. If you turn a corner and see one close enough to attack you, you sprint back and go in another direction. If you see one at the edge of your sight range, you turn around, easy. If you stumble pointblank across one in the dark, well that's your own fault for risking going out in the dark without proper vision. Plus its fairly easy to tell ones in the area from all the huge explosions.

If you don't have the kit to fight one its not like they're sitting on top of game objectives. Just mark the area on your map and stay the hell away from it. Its not particularly difficult for an established character to kill them either unless they're sitting in an open field with no cover and you don't have a powerful enough rifle to hit them from outside their range.

[Random_Dragon]

Oh hey, I forgot this was a thing. Mostly just been keeping my Arcana mod (https://github.com/chaosvolt/cdda-arcana-mod) updated, and enjoying being an ex-CDDA-forumite.

[pisskop]

they are actually underpowered from what a functional full sized automated tank would be.

not even infrared vision?  no real speed?  can be run over? single tile?

[thegoatgod_pan]

they are actually underpowered from what a functional full sized automated tank would be.

not even infrared vision?  no real speed?  can be run over? single tile?

That really isn't the point. The point is this is an enemy which cannot be killed, but which can kill you in a single shot from a screen away. It might as well be an in-game "corrupt save file" function, it adds no fun, it literally adds nothing to the experience, it just ruins the experience.

[pisskop]

im goingto be completely blunt:

this is a turn based game.  you, quite literally, have all the time you need to read, digest, and respond to the hud.  you have ZERO excuse for not.

additionally, there is no situation in coregame where a tank drone can sneak up on you.  YOU, the OP character of the game.  a tank drone is nerfed as it is.   they are not common, nor do they appear where you cannot see or avoid or outrun them.

tank drones can be blacklisted with a mod, and using them is a pisspoor excuse when i could make that mod in less than 90 seconds.

they dont break the game or take the fun out of it, they remind you that your character isnt the center of the ingame universe, despite being the one to grant us the narrative.