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NullForceOmega

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I missed that option entirely.  The point stands however that freezing in spring while wearing winter gear is just silly.
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As long as you wear enough to keep your @ numbers green/above 0, you should be fine. :P
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It has to be full winter gear too, to my knowledge. As a winter survivor, sleeping outside was difficult because my face was so cold that I kept waking up in the night and couldn't find anything to put on. A coat and pants would be surprisingly unhelpful when your feet, hands, and head are freezing.

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Sleeping in a pile of sheets/blankets/pillows/clothing works to help you stay warm while asleep.
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The scenario I am outlining is that while actively moving around and gathering items in spring while wearing full winter gear, gloves, facial coverings etcetera, I am still suffering the effects of cold reducing my mobility and resulting in my getting torn up by zombies I have kited onto bushes, into windows, across vehicles, and so on (using parkour expert and quick).  I see this as problematic, and an impediment to my personal enjoyment of the game.

Starting in summer definitely helped reduce the problem, now I just have to compensate for the massively revised hit/dodge mechanics.
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I've hardly had any problems with the cold once I figured out how to craft my way past it. There are enough materials in the starting shelter alone to give you plenty of warmth.

Plus you have the emergency jackets in the lockers now, which go a long way towards keeping your hands and head warm, as long as your head is unencumbered and you don't wield anything. You can craft a keffiyeh - which I am assuming is some sort of scarf-like thing - out of a sheet for mouth warmth, you can make a rag tunic out of one as well, or wear the whole sheet if you feel so inclined.

Also do keep in mind, as I have had this pointed out to me before. You start out at the start of Spring, which also means at the end of Winter. Spring does not immediately start out all warmth and flowers, it has a long period of cold winds, rain, and snow.
Though maybe it's just me being Russian. :P
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Yah, a quick google search show me that average New England temperatures are all above freezing past March, and only at freezing during.  While that doesn't rule out lower-than average days or exposure, it does pretty much rule out freezing to death while wearing winter clothing.
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The thing is, you're not freezing to death. Your extremities are just getting uncomfortably cold.

I mean, it's obvious that all the characters have Raynaud's, since the warmth system doesn't take into account blood circulation, but the fact still remains that, even in non-freezing temperatures (up to about 50 degrees Fahrenheit), if your hands aren't covered by at least a little bit, they'll get cold pretty quick, to the point where it can be painful.
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Would it be very hard to program the warmth system to take into account warmth of the torso when dealing with the extremities? To account (roughly) for blood circulation?
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The Pacific Northwest is at a similar latitude to the New England states. The Pacific Ocean makes us a bit warmer since air is coming off the ocean. New England gets its air from the land. Plus it's often coming in from over Canada. It's still jacket weather even now in Washington state if you have no body padding.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1000 on: May 03, 2015, 01:55:27 pm »

Would it be very hard to program the warmth system to take into account warmth of the torso when dealing with the extremities? To account (roughly) for blood circulation?

It already does that to some degree. There is diffusion of heat to adjacent body parts proportional to the temperature difference.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1001 on: May 03, 2015, 11:57:31 pm »

Would it be very hard to program the warmth system to take into account warmth of the torso when dealing with the extremities? To account (roughly) for blood circulation?
It's not necessarily hard, but what's the model based on?  I couldn't find a reference for how that works, so we just have something slapped together, and you can see how well that's working out.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1002 on: May 04, 2015, 12:57:12 am »

I think there should be traits regarding warmth/cold tolerance, since it is, to a certain level, a question of acclimatisation. Nordic blood for cold resistance, Tropic thunder for heat resistance, negative traits for increased discomfort from cold/heat.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1003 on: May 04, 2015, 02:02:33 am »

Also do keep in mind, as I have had this pointed out to me before. You start out at the start of Spring, which also means at the end of Winter. Spring does not immediately start out all warmth and flowers, it has a long period of cold winds, rain, and snow.
Though maybe it's just me being Russian. :P

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1004 on: May 04, 2015, 02:51:35 am »

Personally when I go out into the freezing snow with a snowjacket, gloves, and winter boots IRL, I'm not a shivering helpless mess of zombie-bait within minutes, or even a few hours if I have a warm hat on. It's really annoying ingame to be constantly spammed with YOUR PINKY FEELS CHILLY or YOUR TOES ARE SOLID ICE BECAUSE YOU STEPPED ON A SNOW IN HEAVY BOOTS
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